Another cheap option from Palmetto State armory.
But I like mag fed guns so I bought one.
(Picture shows the 9 round mag)
In the box-
20" 12 gauge mag fed shotgun/Two 5 round mags/Choke wrench with three chokes Full, Mod, Imp. Cyl./Plug for 5 rd. mag that limits capacity at two/Instructions/Velvet cloth(um..ok?)
Stamped on the (aluminum) receiver- Derya Arms, Turkey.
Gun is chambered for 2 3/4 or 3 inch shells.
Slugs not to be used except with the Imp. Cyl choke. Obviously, mini shells are not the best choice for mag use.
The instructions have more pages dedicated to safety than operating the gun itself.
Sights are good with adjustable peep rear and FO front. Gun shoots to poa.
The action is actually pretty nice and smooth without feeling loose.
Heat shield works ok and looks scary.
Only the top rail for accessories. Forget adding a bunch of stuff.
The bolt is fitted with what RIA calls "Buffer Bolt System" which appears to be some kind of donut on the rear of the bolt intended to be less tortuous on the receiver.
Longevity is undetermined but although the receiver is alum. and the trigger group plastic, both appear sturdy enough.
The trigger breaks more like clunk than snap, but it breaks clean and around 6 lbs.
Ergonomics; Has a somewhat long LOP between the cheekweld and the foregrip. The bolt release is located in a funky location. Mag release works fine as does the crossbolt safety. Trigger reach is not bad.
Furniture; The foregrip could use some better grip. It's not terrible but if it got wet it might slip. Get one of the Glock guys to stipple it for you.
The stock is not what I ordered. My order pictured a conventional stock with a nice spongy buttpad. This one has a buttpad like a shoe sole, the dumb cheekweld riser, and I don't care for the robo-cop look. It has a spacer at the rear that I guess can be taken out shortening the LOP. Instructions don't tell you how. It fits ok to face and hand but I am disappointed with PSA on this point. A return to their site now shows this stock with no mention of the original offering. The gun was cheap, I didn't cry about it.
Shooting the thing-
Loading the mags is an acquired skill. The springs are stiff and the shells want to roll as you push on them. You have to be careful to not allow the top shell to hook on the one underneath it. The brass lip must be in front of the brass lip of the shell below it or it will not feed correctly. All these mags fit the RIA VR semi-autos also (as well as some other brands I understand) and they require you to use your man hand to load. The 9 round especially. Maybe it's because they're new. They make a 19 round mag as well and it appears to be completely absurd.
The pump action is the same. It's smooth but you can't baby it.
The gun is light and kicks. I'm not recoil sensitive so it doesn't bother me but you notice. The Adidas butt pad is no help.
The gun shot fine and functioned well except it didn't like the Federal ammo. It tried to double feed the first rounds regardless of 5 or 9 round mag. The cheapo estate ammo ran through it perfectly. Don't know why this is, they're basically the same thing. There were no other problems.
Those shells were the only two kinds I tried. Next time I'll take some other brands.
This might be the easiest gun I've ever cleaned and lubed. Push the AR-type pin out of the back of the receiver and the trigger group rotates down and out. Take off the barrel cap and slide off the barrel. Then you can take out the slide action along with the bolt.
The process takes maybe 45 seconds. This might be the cool-est part of the whole gun. High marks for this feature.
PSA has/had them for $199 plus shipping and tax. Right around $230 plus xfer fees. RIA has a $50 rebate though as well as a free 9 round mag (good thru sept) So you can get the gun and 3 mags for about 200 bucks.
I had 5 people shoot it. The youngest 14 and the oldest 76. All guys. (IMO this is not the best choice for ladies or those with strength issues. It kicks and demands effort)
If you kept control of it you could mag-dump into a space the size of a basketball. Everybody liked it and there were laughs all around.
Overall score on the 1 to 10 scale; 7.0
It works well, shoots well, and the fun factor is worth the price of admission.
But I like mag fed guns so I bought one.
(Picture shows the 9 round mag)
In the box-
20" 12 gauge mag fed shotgun/Two 5 round mags/Choke wrench with three chokes Full, Mod, Imp. Cyl./Plug for 5 rd. mag that limits capacity at two/Instructions/Velvet cloth(um..ok?)
Stamped on the (aluminum) receiver- Derya Arms, Turkey.
Gun is chambered for 2 3/4 or 3 inch shells.
Slugs not to be used except with the Imp. Cyl choke. Obviously, mini shells are not the best choice for mag use.
The instructions have more pages dedicated to safety than operating the gun itself.
Sights are good with adjustable peep rear and FO front. Gun shoots to poa.
The action is actually pretty nice and smooth without feeling loose.
Heat shield works ok and looks scary.
Only the top rail for accessories. Forget adding a bunch of stuff.
The bolt is fitted with what RIA calls "Buffer Bolt System" which appears to be some kind of donut on the rear of the bolt intended to be less tortuous on the receiver.
Longevity is undetermined but although the receiver is alum. and the trigger group plastic, both appear sturdy enough.
The trigger breaks more like clunk than snap, but it breaks clean and around 6 lbs.
Ergonomics; Has a somewhat long LOP between the cheekweld and the foregrip. The bolt release is located in a funky location. Mag release works fine as does the crossbolt safety. Trigger reach is not bad.
Furniture; The foregrip could use some better grip. It's not terrible but if it got wet it might slip. Get one of the Glock guys to stipple it for you.
The stock is not what I ordered. My order pictured a conventional stock with a nice spongy buttpad. This one has a buttpad like a shoe sole, the dumb cheekweld riser, and I don't care for the robo-cop look. It has a spacer at the rear that I guess can be taken out shortening the LOP. Instructions don't tell you how. It fits ok to face and hand but I am disappointed with PSA on this point. A return to their site now shows this stock with no mention of the original offering. The gun was cheap, I didn't cry about it.
Shooting the thing-
Loading the mags is an acquired skill. The springs are stiff and the shells want to roll as you push on them. You have to be careful to not allow the top shell to hook on the one underneath it. The brass lip must be in front of the brass lip of the shell below it or it will not feed correctly. All these mags fit the RIA VR semi-autos also (as well as some other brands I understand) and they require you to use your man hand to load. The 9 round especially. Maybe it's because they're new. They make a 19 round mag as well and it appears to be completely absurd.
The pump action is the same. It's smooth but you can't baby it.
The gun is light and kicks. I'm not recoil sensitive so it doesn't bother me but you notice. The Adidas butt pad is no help.
The gun shot fine and functioned well except it didn't like the Federal ammo. It tried to double feed the first rounds regardless of 5 or 9 round mag. The cheapo estate ammo ran through it perfectly. Don't know why this is, they're basically the same thing. There were no other problems.
Those shells were the only two kinds I tried. Next time I'll take some other brands.
This might be the easiest gun I've ever cleaned and lubed. Push the AR-type pin out of the back of the receiver and the trigger group rotates down and out. Take off the barrel cap and slide off the barrel. Then you can take out the slide action along with the bolt.
The process takes maybe 45 seconds. This might be the cool-est part of the whole gun. High marks for this feature.
PSA has/had them for $199 plus shipping and tax. Right around $230 plus xfer fees. RIA has a $50 rebate though as well as a free 9 round mag (good thru sept) So you can get the gun and 3 mags for about 200 bucks.
I had 5 people shoot it. The youngest 14 and the oldest 76. All guys. (IMO this is not the best choice for ladies or those with strength issues. It kicks and demands effort)
If you kept control of it you could mag-dump into a space the size of a basketball. Everybody liked it and there were laughs all around.
Overall score on the 1 to 10 scale; 7.0
It works well, shoots well, and the fun factor is worth the price of admission.
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