S Prefix Unfired S&W Model 57 & Wood Box - 1966/67

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  1. Tappet

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    Hello, I’m probably going to have to sell my S&W Model 57, .41 Magnum. “S” Prefix serial number, 8 3/8” barrel, Target Trigger, Hammer, Sights. Blue. In original S&W wood box. Unfired!

    I have some of the original paperwork but I don’t think I have it all. The tools are in the box too. And the box lining is in good condition.

    This revolver was handed down to me. My dad passed away years ago so I have nobody else in my family that could answer questions. The serial number puts the manufacturing date at late 1966 to early 1967.

    I’m really not sure what a fair price would be. I’ve seen similar revolvers sell for around $3000 down to $1100 or so. Does anyone have any idea where I should start with pricing, especially considering that it is new and unfired?

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    Unfired, or uncycled?? BIG difference......
     
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  3. ronn47

    ronn47 Where's the Scotch? Charter Member Benefactor Life Member

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    Good photos will help you get the answer.
     
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    Yes please post pics, lots of them. But also since you’re in Charlotte take it to Woody at Hyatt’s for an appraisal.
     
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  5. cubrock

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    One that early may have "Coke" stocks on it. If so, that will make a big difference in price.

    As others have said, pictures. We need pictures. Lots of pictures.
     
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    Welcome to the forum.

    Please do post up some pics if you get a chance.
     
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  7. NCFubar

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    Good point ... and this being a mid 60’s N-frame with the target model characteristics Coke Bottles could very well be there. I have seen very good to excellent ones sell for $400-$500 ... if NIB on a 3rd year ‘57 ... add $500 plus just for the grips. With accessories and manuals along with presentation box it adds up. Before you think of letting it go physically check with a trustworthy and knowledgeable S&W collector ... the revolver might be worth say $1500 but the stuff with it might be worth a pretty penny also.
     
  8. Tappet

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    Thanks for the replies. My step son died unexpectedly last night. I will post pictures sometime soon but have other things I have to attend to right now. Thanks again.
     
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    My sympathies sir.
     
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  10. cubrock

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    Prayers for your family.
     
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    Sorry for your loss.
     
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    ronn47 Where's the Scotch? Charter Member Benefactor Life Member

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    Sorry to hear of your family's loss.
     
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    Thanks for your kind words. I’m going to try to upload some pictures.
     

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    Paging @Prosecutor..........

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    It's a beautiful revolver, but not a model with which I am familiar...at least not the pricing.
     
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    Tappet, gorgeous gun and my condolences on your loss. That year would also make it Curio and Relic eligible for sale.


    CD
     
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    Damn nice wheel gun. Nice caliber also. Sorry for your loss. Prayers out for you and your family.
     
  18. cubrock

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    Unless the gun shipped much later than the serial number suggests, those grips are not correct for it. Those grips are most likely from the 1970s to 1982 or so. Hard to tell how early or late without seeing the insides of them. But, they are not correct for a 66/67 gun. Your gun should have Coke bottle targets or diamond target grips on it. That is a significant hit on the value of the gun due to the cost of buying correct grips.

    The case flocking may have been redone or it may be correct. The Model 57 cases of that era had flocking that is a bit different than other S&W cases. I’d have to see it in person to tell for sure. If that is the original case flocking, that is a very nice bonus.

    Very nice gun. As it sits, I’d put it at $1100-1200. If you had Cokes on it, $1500ish or more retail. Collectors are going to hammer you over those grips. You’ll get tired of hearing about it.
     
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    Thanks. It is what it is. It’s how I received it and unfortunately I don’t have anything else. I’m trying to just determine a fair price as it is, warts and all so to speak.
     
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    It costs about $75 but I’d think about contacting the Smith & Wesson Historical Foundation and getting a letter stating when and how it came out of the factory along with where it was shipped to. Usually you can recoup the cost in a sale if a collector is buying it.

    As to price, a new 57 Classic is MSRP of about $1000 ... street price maybe $850. Now yours being an early model AND NO INFERNAL INTERNAL LOCK to me adds some value. Also the longer barrel (6” is the Classic today) can be more desirable to some. Add in the case and cubrock’s $1100-1200 comes up ... which if were me would be to little to part with that revolver. It will not decrease in value so unless hard pressed keep it oiled and safe.
     
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    I agree on the letter. If it letters as shipping later (which sometimes happened), then it might indicate that the target grips that are on it are correct, which would add to the value more than the cost of the letter. An interesting shipping destination will also add value.
     
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    I may do that. I got my Triple Lock lettered years ago. This Model 57 has been in my family a long time but I wasn’t in possession of it until recently. I suspected that the grips were wrong but don’t know the story, and I don’t have any relatives that might know, anymore. Thank you all for the help!
     
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    My condolences on your loss.

    The values mentioned sound about right, but honestly I'm not that familiar with current pricing on Model 57's. If this is something you need to sell quickly posting it here or on the S&W Forum in the classifieds in the price range listed should work. I may even be interested myself. Putting it on Gunbroker with detailed pictures and descriptions would take longer but potentially generate a higher see price. I agree with NCFubar, if there is anyway to hold on to it try to do so. It'll be difficult to replace.
     
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    What is the serial number. I doubt that the grips have been changed on a "new" in the box gun. Just doesn't make sense. So this could be later than 66- 67.
     
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    Good to see you here, Charlie.
     
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    The serial number is S269xxx. I wish I knew more of the history. My understanding is that my grandfather bought it new when I was about 14 years old. I’m in my mid 60s now. It only recently passed to me, within the past few years. I thought the original paperwork was still with it too, but it’s not.

    I know that I don’t think I’d ever sell it for within a few hundred dollars of the cost of a late model new one. Even if the grips are wrong, etc., it’s still a vintage new revolver!

    Thanks for any and all help!
     
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    based on other serial number ship dates, I think you're correct on when yours shipped. S277xxx shipped June 67 and a bunch in the S254xxx range shipped in 1966. Didn't see anything closer to your number. Cokes used thru 1965, so doubt it shipped with cokes. Diamond center grips eliminated in 1968, so yours could have shipped with diamond center grips or those that are on it now. Just depends on timing, what was on the shelf in 1967. Again, I don't see someone changing grips on a NIB gun. I think everything about the gun is righteous, 4" guns sell higher than 6", my guess is $1200 - $1400 for the package.

    Charlie
     
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    Wish you all the luck in the world but you have the worst barrel length you could have. Any extra worth is the "S". Your box and all it's holdings are very nice. You have gotten some good advice, I have been dealing in N Frames for a long time. The 11-12 mark would be GREAT if you get it. Again, good luck.
     
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    It is possible, especially if it didn't ship until '68, which is entirely possible. I have seen some late shipped guns with Cokes, but grips can and do get swapped around over the years. I've seen NIB guns that had grips harvested for other guns. Given the family history on this one, perhaps that is less likely, but if this gun was just sitting for sale somewhere, my gut would tell me that the diamonds/Cokes got harvested at some point and the grips that are on it are not original to it. Always hard to say with transitional guns like this one.

    Regardless, it is a very nice piece.
     
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    The one thing for certain is, those aren't Cokes.
     
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