Scope for mossberg patriot

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I am looking for a scope for a mossberg patriot 300 win mag. I would like to shoot longer ranges. My buddy has a range that goes out to 1300 yards. What scope magnification do I need? Is it worth spending a lot of money on a nice scope for such a cheap gun? What scopes do y’all recommend?


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I’m not necessarily going to be shooting at 1300 but I’d like to get as close to it as possible with this gun


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I guess it depends on what you need in a reticle (MOA/MIL, SFP/FFP) along with your budget, but there’s a solid selection of 4-16x/3-15x type scopes (Vortex HST/PST II for example)

The Vortex Gen 1 PST 6-24 is on Optics Planet for $629 (although it was $499 when I snagged one three weeks ago)

There’s a lot of options right now so I guess your needs will help reveal which one would fit you best
 
I’ve been looking at the some sightron scopes and I’ve heard a lot of good things about that vortex and the vortex one is cheaper. I just wonder how the rifle will do at those distances because both scopes are expensive.


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If you want to shoot at a distance, you need good glass. Quality of glass is more important than high magnification. Getting both will set you back a bit, but getting not good enough is a complete waste of money and you'll be frustrated at your lack of success.

If you haven't already done so, download a few ballistic calculator apps and see what velocity you can expect for the weight of bullet you're using to see how much drop adjustment you'll need. When you are shopping for a scope, know how much vertical adjustment each one has. With zero MOA mounts and a scope that zeroes midway, you'll only have half that for compensation. You might need a 20 or 30 MOA mount. A 20 MOA mount with 70 MOA of vertical travel in the turrets will stretch it out a long way.

Whatever you decide between MOA or MIL, the turret adjustment and reticle should be the same. MOA reticle and 1/4"/100 yard turrets are close but still a mismatch. At 100 yards it's close enough, at 1,300 yards it's a dealbreaker and falls into the complete waste of money category. If you want to use the rifle for hunting, you have to have adjustable magnification so you still have a wide field of view when that buck breaks out 50 yards away. I just put a 6-24 on a rifle I'll never hunt with. I took it off a .308 I'd like to use hunting. Even at 6x, I lose a lot in field of view. I'll use a 3x9 for that.

As to whether it's a waste to spend a few bucks on such a "cheap" rifle, is it accurate? I've seen incredible accuracy from inexpensive rifles. We call those bargains, not cheap. I own two that are close to 1/2" at 100 yards that I bought for $625 combined. They aren't pretty (actually one is) but targets, deer and woodchucks aren't known for their aesthetic taste in firearms design.

If you reload, you might even find your 2" at 100 yards with random factory ammo gun shoots lights out with a load tailored to that rifle.
 
If you want to shoot at a distance, you need good glass. Quality of glass is more important than high magnification. Getting both will set you back a bit, but getting not good enough is a complete waste of money and you'll be frustrated at your lack of success.

If you haven't already done so, download a few ballistic calculator apps and see what velocity you can expect for the weight of bullet you're using to see how much drop adjustment you'll need. When you are shopping for a scope, know how much vertical adjustment each one has. With zero MOA mounts and a scope that zeroes midway, you'll only have half that for compensation. You might need a 20 or 30 MOA mount. A 20 MOA mount with 70 MOA of vertical travel in the turrets will stretch it out a long way.

Whatever you decide between MOA or MIL, the turret adjustment and reticle should be the same. MOA reticle and 1/4"/100 yard turrets are close but still a mismatch. At 100 yards it's close enough, at 1,300 yards it's a dealbreaker and falls into the complete waste of money category. If you want to use the rifle for hunting, you have to have adjustable magnification so you still have a wide field of view when that buck breaks out 50 yards away. I just put a 6-24 on a rifle I'll never hunt with. I took it off a .308 I'd like to use hunting. Even at 6x, I lose a lot in field of view. I'll use a 3x9 for that.

As to whether it's a waste to spend a few bucks on such a "cheap" rifle, is it accurate? I've seen incredible accuracy from inexpensive rifles. We call those bargains, not cheap. I own two that are close to 1/2" at 100 yards that I bought for $625 combined. They aren't pretty (actually one is) but targets, deer and woodchucks aren't known for their aesthetic taste in firearms design.

If you reload, you might even find your 2" at 100 yards with random factory ammo gun shoots lights out with a load tailored to that rifle.

Thank you that was a lot of help! I will be using this gun for only long range shooting. No hunting I have a .308 that I hunt with. I have not shot the gun yet because I don’t have a scope on it. Some of the stuff I’ve read online people were saying they are getting about an inch group at 100 yards


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Better to put quality glass on a cheap gun than vice versa, especially if shooting long range. I've seen more than one cheap gun that was a great shooter.
 
Some of the stuff I’ve read online people were saying they are getting about an inch group at 100 yards
I've got a Mossberg Patriot 30.06 and slapped a cheap BSA 3/9x40 on there and it will shoot 1 inch groups at 100 yards. I don't even know where I got that scope I think someone gave it to me. I wouldn't stretch it out past that but I can only do 100 yards at my range anyway.
These are pretty damn good rifles for the money. The only ding I give mine is the bolt is kinda sloppy, but it works fine.
 
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