Skinny jean riderz Vs. hillbillies

Catfish said:
It has everything to do with it. It's not a fight when you are pummeling a prone victim and sitting on them to prevent escape. At that moment my brain went for my gun, and when bubba #3 walked in frame with a shotgun my brain said *shoot*
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It really is just mutual combat. They both pulled over to have it out and they did. Loosing the fight doesn't make you a victim of assault.
 
watch that video again that's not what happened.
Redneck #1 moved to the motorcycle, initiated contact, and continued well beyond making a point into violent felony territory. He was the aggressor throughout. Dumbass skinny jean biker never threw a punch that I could see.

you see a stupid kid getting what he deserves, I see a raging redneck out of control and heading for prison. same screen, different movies.

but hey, it's Friday night and we needed a good thread to get bent about - woohoo!
 
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I'm not sure there should be charges for the guy with the shotgun either. I didn't hear him threaten anyone and he didn't point it. He was just ensuring that the fight didn't turn into a gang bang. "Real deal" deserves anything that he gets.
 
Here's my take and it's only my opinion so it doesn't have much value, if any. However, the way I see it, the guys on the motorcycles were more capable, and better equipped, to end all of this before it started. The guy in the big pickup is less capable of avoiding or escaping the situation. In other words, the truck is slower and less maneuverable than the motorcycles. The truck driver just can't speed away to avoid the motorcycles. The guys on the bikes have much more capability to leave the situation and let it end. They didn't. Frankly, if you ask me, they are lucky the truck driver didn't run right over them. Instead, he pulled over and the guys on the bikes were dumb enough to do the same, even after it was apparent that someone in the truck called for backup. Stupid move.
 
J R Green said:
I'm not sure there should be charges for the guy with the shotgun either. I didn't hear him threaten anyone and he didn't point it. He was just ensuring that the fight didn't turn into a gang bang. "Real deal" deserves anything that he gets.
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I was thinking the exact same thing. He even went to give aid to the kid that got pummeled.
 
Catfish said:
watch that video again that's not what happened.
Redneck #1 moved to the motorcycle, initiated contact, and continued well beyond making a point into violent felony territory. He was the aggressor throughout. Dumbass skinny jean biker never threw a punch that I could see.

you see a stupid kid getting what he deserves, I see a raging redneck out of control and heading for prison. same screen, different movies.
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What do you think the kid was pulling over for? It wasn't tea. Somebody has to throw the first punch.

I thought that the "he's just 19" comment was funny, It's like saying he's in the prime of his life fighting an old man that's not fair.
 
Qball said:
Here's my take and it's only my opinion so it doesn't have much value, if any. However, the way I see it, the guys on the motorcycles were more capable, and better equipped, to end all of this before it started. The guy in the big pickup is less capable of avoiding or escaping the situation. In other words, the truck is slower and less maneuverable than the motorcycles. The truck driver just can't speed away to avoid the motorcycles. The guys on the bikes have much more capability to leave the situation and let it end. They didn't. Frankly, if you ask me, they are lucky the truck driver didn't run right over them. Instead, he pulled over and the guys on the bikes were dumb enough to do the same, even after it was apparent that someone in the truck called for backup. Stupid move.
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Additionally, there was TWELVE OF THEM, and when it started, one dude with his family in a slow truck hauling stuff.
 
Looked to me like he pulled over to talk... or shout. I guess it was to receive a beating. Maybe the big man should have just put him over his knee?
 
Cowboy said:
Well if you notice it's an "on going" investigation but the real deal fella has already been charged.
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Oh, I certainly agree that the big fat guy deserves to be charged. No doubt in my mind.
 
Catfish said:
Looked to me like he pulled over to talk... or shout. I guess it was to receive a beating. Maybe the big man should have just put him over his knee?
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Don't bring flapping gums to a fist fight I guess.

I seriously doubt the conversation while they were rolling was "pull over and we will discuss this rationally".
 
those were skinny jeans?





As for this - the 'real deal' is a 'real a-hole'
And I couldnt really tell, but what initiated the fight at the end that led to one guy stealing the other guy's camera?

Lots of idiots in the video. And something tells me the scene smelled of Axe and roadkill.
 
That had me laughing. What a pile of stereotypes, thankfully they were all white or we would be prosecuted for finding humor.
That "rifle" looks like a 12 gauge rifle to me.
 
First the biker should have just let it go and had a near death story to tell at the end of the ride. Chasing the truck to teach him a lesson was never going to end well.

Fwiw to those saying disappear. The second bike stopped by the truck looks like 125cc grom. It might go 55mph. Not exactly going to drop a gear and disappear on that. However they were following the truck not the other way around so not really germane to the discussion.

I'm with Catfish. I'm shooting the dude in overalls at ~1:10. Then I felt bad when he went to help. Then when he attacked the guy at the end (over the camera?) I was totally conflicted.
 
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Bikers from Stillwater, which is the home of OSU, encounter rednecks while riding through the boonies, probably to or from Tulsa. I can envision the bikers projecting their feelings of superiority over the rednecks and discovering those perspectives don't apply to physical encounters.
 
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Slosolo2 said:
First the biker should have just let it go and had a near death story to tell at the end of the ride. Chasing the truck to teach him a lesson was never going to end well.

Fwiw to those saying disappear. The second bike stopped by the truck looks like 125cc grom. It might go 55mph. Not exactly going to drop a gear and disappear on that. However they were following the truck not the other way around so not really germane to the discussion.

I'm with Catfish. I'm shooting the dude in overalls at ~1:10. Then I felt bad when he went to help. Then when he attacked the guy at the end (over the camera?) I was totally conflicted.
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Yeah, I was the "those" saying they should disappear. I knew the second bike was a small bike. But the first one isn't that small and we can't see the other ten in the video. But disappearing, doesn't just mean twist the throttle and blast away from the scene. It also means put on the brakes and reverse your course.

I'm not defending anyone in this video. Plenty of stupid to go around. Whoever it was in the pickup should have called the law before calling for backup. Maybe they did. It could be rural Oklahoma and response times could be long. I don't know.

However, just imagine you're sitting there doing whatever, and you get a call from your brother, son, best friend, Dad, Mom, wife, etc...... and he/she tells you that they are not far away and are being harassed by a bunch of motorcyclists, 12 in this case, and they are all alone. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm definitely going to respond and you can be dang sure that I won't be going unarmed.

While you sit there waiting and you see them all pull up and the fight ensues, and then you see 11 other guys get off their bikes and there are only 3 of you plus a female, what would you do if you are sitting there with a shotgun?

Edit: @Slosolo2 That question in my last paragraph wasn't directed at you. It was a generic question for anyone reading.
 
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Just to add to my last comments. Regarding shooting the guy with the shotgun, and I guess this depends on the laws in OK, it doesn't seem to fuzzy to me when a guy gets out of a truck with a shotgun when it is a 12 vs. 4 situation. It also doesn't seem too fuzzy to me that a charge for attempted murder/murder would be somewhat easier to prove against one of twelve motorcyclists shooting at one of three guys vs. the one guy with the shotgun shooting one of twelve motorcyclists who produces a weapon.
 
I wasn't aware there were a dozen bikers that does change the situation a bit. That brings another thing to mind... If 11 of my friends stood around and watched me get a beat down like that and did NOTHING to stop it, I'd have 11 less friends.
 
What was Big boy doing when he lifted up his shirt? Showing off his cell block b prison ink?
 
Catfish said:
I wasn't aware there were a dozen bikers that does change the situation a bit. That brings another thing to mind... If 11 of my friends stood around and watched me get a beat down like that and did NOTHING to stop it, I'd have 11 less friends.
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I guess that was the purpose of the shotgun. Preventing a gangbang attack on an outnumbered group of family/friends.
 
LizardKing said:
What was Big boy doing when he lifted up his shirt? Showing off his cell block b prison ink?
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If I had to guess, based on his "I'm the real deal" statement, I would say that he's a "One Percenter" and that was his gang tatoo he was showing.
 
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Here's a longer version of the video. It doesn't show the original incident, but it starts out with the truck turning down a road and the bikers all stopping and huddling about something while the truck goes on. Then the bikers race to catch up to the truck and that's where the original video starts. It also has some dialog at the end between the "real deal" and one of the bikers, where he makes more of an a$$ of himself.

There's plenty of stupid to go around, but having seen the beginning of this video, it's clear that the bikers could have kept on riding instead of chasing down the truck. They were the ones that were looking for a fight, and they got one.

 
Still don't know what led up to this horse ****, but there always one or two a**hats that think they own the road. They could have all killed each other and done society a favor.
 
NKD said:
I think a really telling thing in this vid:

It was cropped and doesn't show initial "cut-off" which I suspect there is a very good reason for!

I have done a lot of riding, and when young riders get into a group they puff up their chests do stupid stuff a lot of times. Which is why I do not do group rides.
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That's why I ride alone. Maybe a "pack" of 2 or 3. I don't like group rides. It appears from the video "real deal" is/was HA
 
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J R Green said:
What do you think the kid was pulling over for? It wasn't tea. Somebody has to throw the first punch.

I thought that the "he's just 19" comment was funny, It's like saying he's in the prime of his life fighting an old man that's not fair.
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19 vs a 40 year old isn't a fair fight. He's 40 not 90. I must have missed the walker.
 
Looked like a circumstance of mouth writes check, ass says insufficient funds.

For the most part, it was a 1-on-1 scrap. "Real Deal" could have been the real deal, if he'd have just calmly insured none of the 12 joined in. Very cool that Z71 guy has neighbors he can call up like that.

Very disturbing that I find myself agreeing with @J R Green & @Cowboy so much. World spinning off axis, obviously.
 
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We all seem to be ignoring the fact that this had to go on long enough for the family in the truck to call for backup and for them to arrive.
The bikers had this guy outnumbered and intended to intimidate and embarrass him in front of his family at the very least.
His friends were as redneck as anyone I've ever met but made sure it was a one on one fight.
I don't agree with the shotgun but the outcome would've been much different without the friends showing up.
I still think the bikers got what they wanted, with a different outcome.
 
Who cares if someone is embarrassed? This aint about feelings.

Both sides did things that were stupid. Period.
The trucker could have kept going, instead he pulled over after he'd called for backup and went after the biker.
The bikers could have just let it go and kept riding, but they didnt do that either. Seems Mr. Backpack wanted to showoff in front of his buddies, he's the one that seems to be involved in this whole thing with the others just along for the ride.

And, then, Mr. Real Deal... yeah he's just a jerk, threatening to kill etc.
Shotgun boy aint much better since he's now on film stealing a camera, but at least he tried to help Mr. Backpack after he was down for the count.

Again, lots of stupid in this video.
 
This would have been an excellent 6 digit grid for a plt of 81mms.
 
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rule #1 for not getting your ass kicked:
Don't start shit, won't be shit.

Kid better be happy he had a helmet on, or Big Daddy would have whooped his ass real good. Like MMA good.

In fact I got odds he could have taken on a few of them without helmets.
 
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