Special Forces team in some doo-doo...

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...for an unauthorized patch with a Nazi history. FWIW this is similar to the 'bolts' that the Marine Scout/Snipers got in trouble a few years ago.

taskandpurpose.com

Special Forces patch with Nazi logo was banned in 2022

The Special Forces team patch depicting a particular skull and crossbones used by the Nazis was previously banned in 2022, the Army said.
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Diablos said:
the same symbols have been used by armies throughout history (skulls, eagles, etc), to denote combat prowess/lethality

this is a lame nothingburger
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It SHOULD be a nothingburger; however, it's turned into a thing, and things grow and have to be addressed.

Like this:

www.bbc.com

US Marine sniper unit photographed with 'Nazi SS' flag

A US Marine sniper unit in Afghanistan posed in September 2010 in front of a flag resembling the Nazi-era SS logo, the Marine Corps confirms.
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It's not about fighting a physical war, it's about making sure the troops lose the psychological war. Can't have all those people willing to die and kill for their country getting uppity.

They might turn on their globalist pedophile commie overlords.
 
Chuckman said:
It SHOULD be a nothingburger; however, it's turned into a thing, and things grow and have to be addressed.

Like this:

www.bbc.com

US Marine sniper unit photographed with 'Nazi SS' flag

A US Marine sniper unit in Afghanistan posed in September 2010 in front of a flag resembling the Nazi-era SS logo, the Marine Corps confirms.
www.bbc.com
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i remember the "issue"

its only an issue in the new DEI military "lead" by diversity hire austin
 
As a member of a STA platoon in the reserves for 7 years, I've seen my share of SS tattoos. No one that had one had ill-intentions toward anyone but the enemies of our country.

I think that moving snipers away from scout teams and putting them in Recon is just another shuffle. Happens. Decades ago, Battalion Commanders were woefully untrained in how to use STA/Scout-Sniper platoons anyway, I hear that didn't change much in the following years.
 
Dan0311 said:
So...this is no bueno?

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SS = Scout/Sniper
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No lol.

Walkabout Dan said:
Fine group of men. Sadly the mos has been done away with by the same woke group complaining about the patch.
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Well, a bit more than that. There were a lot of issues that led to the dissolution of the S/S schools, some of those issues that community brought on themselves, after being told that if they wanted their community to continue they needed to come to the table to work out the problems, and they refused. It was a shi* pie that many cooks had a hand in baking.
 
Chuckman said:
It SHOULD be a nothingburger; however, it's turned into a thing, and things grow and have to be addressed.

Like this:

www.bbc.com

US Marine sniper unit photographed with 'Nazi SS' flag

A US Marine sniper unit in Afghanistan posed in September 2010 in front of a flag resembling the Nazi-era SS logo, the Marine Corps confirms.
www.bbc.com
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you know what needs to be addressed??? the inept leadership we have that allowed the the shameful withdrawal from afghanistan, they need to be held to account. that's what's actually important, not a damn patch.
 
Beleive me I get as frustrated about political correctness destroying military readiness as anybody. However in this case the patch in question is not a generic skull or other vague fighting references. They literally took 2 nazi insignia, smashed them on top of each other and added a 3rd group flash. It was either intentional, lazy, or stupid. None of those are acceptable excuses to me, especially from a SOF unit.
 
363medic said:
Beleive me I get as frustrated about political correctness destroying military readiness as anybody. However in this case the patch in question is not a generic skull or other vague fighting references. They literally took 2 nazi insignia, smashed them on top of each other and added a 3rd group flash. It was either intentional, lazy, or stupid. None of those are acceptable excuses to me, especially from a SOF unit.
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SOF/elite units have pushed the envelope on patches and badges for...well, forever. It was especially prevalent during VN when so many small teams had their own patches made in-theater. I think 3321's patch would have been less cringy if it wasn't a direct rip-off of the the SS in Africa (to your point):

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I think whoever came up with the 3321 design had to have known, and what makes it more egregious is that they were told a while ago to get rid of it.

I think the Marines S/S issue is a bit different and more of a leap to make the Nazi connection but this one is pretty evident.

To me, I am like 'whatever,' but I also know how today's military leadership will find the extreme in anything and make it a thing. For example, a MARSOC unit in west Africa was doing diving ops with a partner force, was told to change the name of diver master to dive supervisor because of the implications of the title "master."
 
363medic said:
Beleive me I get as frustrated about political correctness destroying military readiness as anybody. However in this case the patch in question is not a generic skull or other vague fighting references. They literally took 2 nazi insignia, smashed them on top of each other and added a 3rd group flash. It was either intentional, lazy, or stupid. None of those are acceptable excuses to me, especially from a SOF unit.
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Bingo.

This wasn't just a passing resemblance.

It was just plain stupid.
 
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The 45th Infantry Division in WW2 was a mostly Native American division, the division patch had a swastika. They certainly were not Nazis. The emblem was part of Native American iconography and culture. The ended up changing it to have a buffalo (I think).

en.wikipedia.org

File:Patch of the 45th Infantry Division (1924-1939).svg - Wikipedia

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Built into houses, too:

www.everythinglubbock.com

Why are swastikas built into homes across Northwest Texas? The homeowners say it’s not what you think

NORTHWEST, TX (KAMC) — The swastika is one of the strongest symbols of hate of the past century — an image Adolf Hitler and the Nazis made synonymous with death and destruction — …
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So yeah, to @noway2 point, it's a shame that some of the Nazi symbology was swiped from other cultures is a travesty and it's a shame that some things that should be benign are permabanned because of what Hitler, et al., did with it in WW2.
 
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