Subsonic ammo

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For the ones that use subsonic 22lr, which brand do you use? I got some Winchester stuff and it won't cycle my Walther P22. But I bought some German stuff and even with it being subs they cycle just fine.

All the above is with and without a suppressor attached.

So which sub sonic ammo do yall use?
 
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My 22/45 won't cycle subsonic CCI quiet. I'm interested to know what you find out.
 
No ammo advice, just chiming in that I've read and heard from A LOT of places that the P22 was a very picky eater. Such a shame...I was all set to pick up one of the target models, too. Went with the SR22 instead and it has never hiccuped.
 
amnesia;n12334 said:
My 22/45 won't cycle subsonic CCI quiet. I'm interested to know what you find out.
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I will have to find some of that and try it out. Duham's sporting goods don't carry it and there is a certain gun shop I only go to when I can't find something and need it asap
 
draco88;n12344 said:
No ammo advice, just chiming in that I've read and heard from A LOT of places that the P22 was a very picky eater. Such a shame...I was all set to pick up one of the target models, too. Went with the SR22 instead and it has never hiccuped.
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Since running around 1k through it it seems to be liking just about anything I put in there. Which has been limited to Federal, Winchester, and CCI. It loves CCI
 
backwoodsshooter;n12353 said:
Since running around 1k through it it seems to be liking just about anything I put in there. Which has been limited to Federal, Winchester, and CCI. It loves CCI
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Good to know, I might actually end up with one someday. Just fondling them, theres a lot to like about the P22.
 
CCI makes a round called "CCI Subsonic". It's a 1050fps 40gr lead HP bullet and my favorite ammo they make. I've got a line on a couple thousand more of them...could probably sell some if anyone is local

http://www.cci-ammunition.com/produc...=2&loadNo=0056

It doesn't go supersonic from a long barrel .22 rifle in the cold and still cycles pistols like a P22 and a Sig/GSG 1911-.22 perfectly
 
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11B CIB;n12642 said:
CCI makes a round called "CCI Subsonic". It's a 1050fps 40gr lead HP bullet and my favorite ammo they make. I've got a line on a couple thousand more of them...could probably sell some if anyone is local

http://www.cci-ammunition.com/produc...=2&loadNo=0056

It doesn't go supersonic from a long barrel .22 rifle in the cold and still cycles pistols like a P22 and a Sig/GSG 1911-.22 perfectly
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I've never seen enough of the subsonic to have an opinion about it, generally use the CCI-SV without issue. Cycles all my hosts and is pretty accurate and subsonic. That said, I'd try a few bricks of the CCI-Subsonic if you end up with extras at a somewhat reasonable price.
 
It's just hard to find nowadays like you mentioned. Used to be able to find it right past the Fiocchi 158gr and no one wanted it because it was Subsonic.

I know a guy who was selling 10k of it and he still has some left. It was around 10-11 cents per round
 
draco88;n12382 said:
Good to know, I might actually end up with one someday. Just fondling them, theres a lot to like about the P22.
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They are nice . I bought my from a place in KY and shipped to my FFL. Only reason I went with it over the Ruger was because th Walther was on sale.

only quirk and I have been meaning to contact Walther about it, when it's on safe, 3 pulls of the trigger and it will fire.
 
backwoodsshooter;n12693 said:
They are nice . I bought my from a place in KY and shipped to my FFL. Only reason I went with it over the Ruger was because th Walther was on sale.

only quirk and I have been meaning to contact Walther about it, when it's on safe, 3 pulls of the trigger and it will fire.
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Uhhhh. Off to test this right now. Standby for result

OK I pulled fifteen times on safe and no fire

I BARELY moved the safety switch which will move the pegs by the firing pin (that stop the hammer from contacting it). After six pulls, the hammer strike worked it around enough to touch off a round.

I am guessing your safety is not engaging securely and three pulls is enough to dislodge it altogether
 
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11B CIB;n12695 said:
Uhhhh. Off to test this right now. Standby for result

OK I pulled fifteen times on safe and no fire

I BARELY moved the safety switch which will move the pegs by the firing pin (that stop the hammer from contacting it). After six pulls, the hammer strike worked it around enough to touch off a round.

I am guessing your safety is not engaging securely and three pulls is enough to dislodge it altogether
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Yea it scared me the first time it happened and luckily I was doing the correct thing and pointing it in a safe direction.

RWS is the subs i am able to get to cycle in mine so far
 
11B CIB;n12677 said:
It's just hard to find nowadays like you mentioned. Used to be able to find it right past the Fiocchi 158gr and no one wanted it because it was Subsonic.

I know a guy who was selling 10k of it and he still has some left. It was around 10-11 cents per round
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9mm ? Tell the guy I'll buy some!
 
11B CIB;n12677 said:
It's just hard to find nowadays like you mentioned. Used to be able to find it right past the Fiocchi 158gr and no one wanted it because it was Subsonic.

I know a guy who was selling 10k of it and he still has some left. It was around 10-11 cents per round
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Yeah, I put up a bunch of the 158 before I started reloading. For the CCI, at that price I'll stick with the SV since I've got a bunch at less than 5 cents per round. Thanks though.
 
Another vote for CCI standard velocity, although I haven't been to any gun stores lately to see if they have it in stock. I still have about 500 left from my last online order from Midway.
 
Most of mine is Remington. Cycles in everything I own. I'm not a huge Remington fan...but it works with our without the can.
 
Primary Arms just had a sale on SV for $3.49/50. I picked some up before they ran out
 
I have a P22 (with suppressor) and I like the Federal standard velocity enough to buy a case of it!
 
The reference to Subsonic, High Velocity, and Hyper Velocity has to do with the velocity the ammo js loaded to. This plays a role in whether it's supersonic or subsonic and whether it will reliably cycle a semi auto. More powder equals more velocity as well as more energy to cycle an action which is why high velocity ammo tends to be more reliable. That said, don't go expecting many if any semis to cycle CCI Quiet which is loaded to 710fps which is quite slow....slow enough to see the bullet in flight. For most semis it seems the threshold for cycling "reliably" is 1080fps or greater.

Rough guide for Velocity:
Subsonic -
 
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Wahoo95;n13724 said:
The reference to Subsonic, High Velocity, and Hyper Velocity has to do with the velocity the ammo js loaded to. This plays a role in whether it's supersonic or subsonic and whether it will reliably cycle a semi auto. More powder equals more velocity as well as more energy to cycle an action which is why high velocity ammo tends to be more reliable. That said, don't go expecting many if any semis to cycle CCI Quiet which is loaded to 710fps which is quite slow....slow enough to see the bullet in flight. For most semis it seems the threshold for cycling "reliably" is 1080fps or greater.

Rough guide for Velocity:
Subsonic -
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Agreed. I am going to see how it does with some of them CCI SV today. So far, after running 1k+ through it, it cycles Federal target stuff and Winchester black box stuff I bought a few months back, and CCI mini mags. THe RWS claims subsonic but like mentioned earlier I think it is closer to CCI SV
 
Wahoo95;n13777 said:
Walther P22 tends to need High Velocity to be reliable
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Mine does OK with standard. IIRC, it's sub out of the handgun as well (I'll have to find my chrono results).

It does NOT like the "quiet" stuff... not even the Beretta M71 will cycle with that stuff. The little Beretta will normally eat very lite ammo and still function.
 
backwoodsshooter;n13542 said:
If you don't mind post a picture please. Of you P22 and suppressor. I know what the ammo looks like lol
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I posted a pic in the POST YOUR NFA PIX, thread in the NFA section... (if you want a better photo, let me know)
 
Another vote for CCI SV if it runs in your gun. Haven't had any issues out of my 22/45. This is the same stuff that CCI is selling as "Christmas packs" for $4 /50
 
My P22 works fine with American Eagle 45gr CRN subs (975fps) and CCI Subsonic (Copper segmented and Lead HP 1050fps). CCI Quiet is a no go
 
Wahoo95;n14383 said:
I can't imagine CCI Quiet has enough uumph to cycle any semi auto
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I haven't tried every possible host, but of those that I have tried none have cycled with it. I keep it for suppressed holy and lever guns where it is outstanding.
 
You may have better cans than I do.
 
Oh, I hear a big difference between subsonic and supersonic, the difference between the various flavors of subsonic including standard velocity is far less pronounced.
 
I'm running the CCI SV stuff out of a M&P compact and a TSI .22 conversion on a G19 frame. It cycles both just fine and is pretty quiet with the can on. Assuming it's subsonic out of those guns as there is no loud crack and the wife can't tell when I'm shooting in the back yard.

I've tried the Remington subsonic and it worked as well but I've not seen it for a while in bulk. Have also fired a few boxes of Gemtech through the M&P without drama.

Midway and a few others will often have the CCI SV in stock and let you order enough to make it worthwhile to ship.

I've got a bunch of the CCI quiet that I run out of a savage bolt gun and with the can on that thing it's quieter than a spring pellet gun. When I first used this combo with my neighbor standing by watching his comment was "did it work?". Crazy quiet.
 
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JimB;n15021 said:
Oh, I hear a big difference between subsonic and supersonic, the difference between the various flavors of subsonic including standard velocity is far less pronounced.
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Yeah me too. The "QUIET" stuff really is quiet, but I've got to manually cycle the gun (any of them) as you'd expect. It doesn't seem like much more power than those Aguila Colribi stuff that I think is primer only.

The Aguila subsonic is pretty darned quiet thru both my 22 cans and seems to cycle the guns most of the time. It'll cycle tbe Beretta 71 all of the time (at least with a can)
 
I've found the Aguila Subsonic to be one of the most quiet of the standard subsonic offerings on the market. It's loaded to 1030fps which is a good median
 
I use whatever bulk pack (seems like it's usually Blazer or M22) in my pistols and 4.5" 15-22...CCI Standard and Gemtech Subsonic in the full length RAR.
 
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