Suppressor input (multi-caliber)

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Hi all,
I am trying to decide which route to go for my first can. I'm pretty green when it comes to them, but it's gotten to the point where I almost feel obligated to get one. The main host will be my Kriss Vector pistol in .45ACP and from the bit of research I've already done, it seems like a lot of people say to get the SilencerCo Osprey.

I don't care about how it looks, how long or heavy it is, I just want something with a good warranty and a good history of dB reduction.

As for the "multi caliber" question, I would like to get a 2nd suppressor that will work for 9mm- but will that same can work on .300blk and/or .38spl? I know the subsoniv ammunition is important, but obviously projectile diameter is importanter. I would love some input on all fronts.

-Joe
 
I have 3 Ospreys. Just not sure I’d recommend one for a higher volume Vector since they’re not user serviceable.

I’d buy something like an Obsidian .45, and also use it on 9mm. Dead Air Ghost would be another option.

Some of the pistol cans will handle subsonic 300BLK, but very few will be rated for supersonic rifle rounds. Some, like the Omega 9K/45K and Wolfman will.

Are you not wanting one capable of any other centerfire rifle calibers? If so, buy a .30 cal rifle can and a .45 pistol can.
 
I have 3 Ospreys. Just not sure I’d recommend one for a higher volume Vector since they’re not user serviceable.

I’d buy something like an Obsidian .45, and also use it on 9mm. Dead Air Ghost would be another option.

Some of the pistol cans will handle subsonic 300BLK, but very few will be rated for supersonic rifle rounds. Some, like the Omega 9K/45K and Wolfman will.

Are you not wanting one capable of any other centerfire rifle calibers? If so, buy a .30 cal rifle can and a .45 pistol can.

(As mentioned, I'm quite new to suppressors in general so if I misspeak, or say something that isn't feasible, let me know) The Kriss I would like to have a dedicated can for, user-serviceability would be a big plus, and I know it won't be "quiet" but I want it as far under 140dB as possible.

The 2nd can will mostly be used for .300blk (and .38spl if that's possible?) 9mm usage will be from a PCC most likely, if at all. pistol cans and rifle cans are setup differently for the movement of the barrel on pistols, correct?
 
Pistol (handguns, not AR pistols) cans usually need a booster.

You just need to know if it’ll be 100% subsonic 300BLK, or if you’ll want to shoot supers.

Maybe a Ghost/Obsidian and then an Optimus. That would allow for supers.

Several other options out there as well.
 
I don't care about how it looks, how long or heavy it is, I just want something with a good warranty and a good history of dB reduction.

Once the novelty of having a suppressor abates - and it will quicker than you imagine - the practical aspects become much much more important. I would strongly urge you to reconsider the "long and heavy" attributes.
 
Once the novelty of having a suppressor abates - and it will quicker than you imagine - the practical aspects become much much more important. I would strongly urge you to reconsider the "long and heavy" attributes.
The only novelty part for me is that I haven't owned one yet. An extra pound on the forend of my weapon won't have much bearing on my comfort level. The #1 goal for me is noise reduction. I won't be using it on a handgun, only an SBR or Carbine- and obviously I don't want a Big Gulp sized monster on the muzzle, but when it comes down to it, if one model is more effective than another, but weighs 6oz more, I will opt for the one better at noise reduction.

Also, the only reason I'm even mentioning the size/weight thing is, I saw one that was capable of being a "long" or "short" can, and if that's a paid feature, I have no use for it.

Pistol (handguns, not AR pistols) cans usually need a booster.

You just need to know if it’ll be 100% subsonic 300BLK, or if you’ll want to shoot supers.

Maybe a Ghost/Obsidian and then an Optimus. That would allow for supers.

Several other options out there as well.

I will only be using it for subsonic ammo. Can will be removed for supersonic rounds. Are the characteristics of a .38spl projectile close enough to 9mm/.30 that I could use the same rifle can on all 3 rounds?
 
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I'd recommend a rimfire can first, if it's going to just be a range toy.

My first was an AAC Evolution in 9mm, followed up by a practical one for my .308 precision rifle, now I have one in jail for a rimfire.
 
I'd recommend a rimfire can first, if it's going to just be a range toy.

My first was an AAC Evolution in 9mm, followed up by a practical one for my .308 precision rifle, now I have one in jail for a rimfire.

I am filing for 2 or 3 cans today. I'm getting one for rimfire, not too particular about which one. It was a no-brainer, who doesn't want a suppressed squirrel-popper? I'm just trying to figure out the logistics behind the remaining 1 or 2. I get conflicting answers in different places. I'm fairly confident I can use a 9mm can on SS.38spl, and 300blk, but I was also told that I can (I could be misquoting the words here) "switch the cap" and use the same can for 9mm and .45ACP. If that's true, then I'll save a dollor (or 1000) and just get the 2 cans; rimfire and a 9mm/45ACP can.
 
Had I have started precision shooting earlier, I may have leaned toward that can earlier, but for fun and "around the house" use, the rimfire should have been my first choice. I have been using my 9mm can for around the house use, but because of the energy of the projectile, it is still a bit limited in use.
 
I will only be using it for subsonic ammo. Can will be removed for supersonic rounds. Are the characteristics of a .38spl projectile close enough to 9mm/.30 that I could use the same rifle can on all 3 rounds?
38special and 9mm are definitely close enough.

If you were going to go with some full power .357Mag, I’d probably ask the particular manufacturer first. But for .38 I wouldn’t worry about it too much.

Lever action .38? Or something else?
 
38special and 9mm are definitely close enough.

If you were going to go with some full power .357Mag, I’d probably ask the particular manufacturer first. But for .38 I wouldn’t worry about it too much.

Lever action .38? Or something else?
I won't be using any full power .357, and yes, a lever-action. I'm waiting on an 1894CST to come in stock.
 
Wouldn't a SilencerCo Hybrid cover your bases for pistol and rifle rounds?
https://silencerco.com/hybrid-46
That actually looks like an absolutel winner, and seems to check all the boxes!

Now, I'm assuming it will mount differently (due to different thread patterns) but I can get mounts to to make it work across the board with pretty much any threaded barrel, right?
 
Except the Hybrid is a sealed can and heavier than most pistol cans.

To me it’s a rifle can that happens to be able to be used on a pistol if necessary.
 
Except the Hybrid is a sealed can and heavier than most pistol cans.

To me it’s a rifle can that happens to be able to be used on a pistol if necessary.
Sealed = I can't service/clean the guts?
Weight still isn't an issue, but serviceability is.
 
Sealed = I can't service/clean the guts?
Weight still isn't an issue, but serviceability is.
The ends unscrew for threads/pistons one one end & caliber cap at the other. Scroll to the bottom of their web page and you can download the manual and white paper (specs). It is larger in dia than similar cans.
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Sealed = I can't service/clean the guts?
Weight still isn't an issue, but serviceability is.
Correct. Fully welded core, strong enough for .338, 45-70, 458SOCOM, etc. Being able to remove both ends still doesn’t do much for cleaning.
 
Correct. Fully welded core, strong enough for .338, 45-70, 458SOCOM, etc. Being able to remove both ends still doesn’t do much for cleaning.
How would one go about cleaning a sealed can? Just soaking and shake out?
 
How would one go about cleaning a sealed can? Just soaking and shake out?
That’s about it. Some manufacturers will say using an ultrasonic cleaner is OK. Some advise using something like CLR. Seafoam would get some of the carbon. The Dip is an option depending on material.

Some manufacturers offer a process of sending the can in for a cleaning, some $0, some charge.
 
Is this safe for most suppressor finishes? Also, how do you appropriately dispose of it?
I wouldn’t put the whole thing in. Not sure how it reacts to cerakote (although there are probably answers out there).

Most use it for stainless baffles. Or plug the end of a sealed can and fill it up.

I think you can add salt to the mixture and make it less harmful. All kinds of articles about using it safely.

http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84577

Usually have to take to your recycling center. I’ve never actually used it.
 
Is this safe for most suppressor finishes? Also, how do you appropriately dispose of it?
It'll dissolve aluminum as well as lead. Ti & SS are safe.
It's the only thing that's worked on my SS Sparrow. The ultrasonic cleaner did nothing, the lead wouldn't scrape off without a lot of force. It usually takes me two soakings, when the first stops reacting (bubbling) or overnight, drain and refill.
In a well ventilated area, use safety glasses, nitrile gloves, no splashing, seal used fluid (lead acetate) in clearly marked bottle to dispose at hazmat station.
 
Is a "less than thorough" cleaning like that sufficient? I was hoping to be able to shoot lead.
 
Re: SiCo Hybrid

There’s a current thread on ARF that is discussing the Hybrid. One of the guys that almost always post sound logic added this:

Do all cans don’t do everything as well as dedicated cans, but to say they do nothing well is a little harsh.

The Hybrid is an excellent PCC/subgun can for its size and weight, does well on big bore hosts, is a great can for sub-caliber hosts with dubious muzzle threading, loose 3-lugs, or over gassing when used on sub-calibers, and the most versatile can on the market for somebody who wants to try different hosts before deciding on dedicated suppressors. It’s not for rimfire, decibel chasers, gram weenies, K-sizing, 4” barreled SBRs, or belt feds, but does hold its own on precision rifle. It’s a great fill-in can for somebody who already has mounts, pistons and front caps that fit. The mount threading is fairly common among 4 or 5 manufacturers.
 
Re: SiCo Hybrid

There’s a current thread on ARF that is discussing the Hybrid. One of the guys that almost always post sound logic added this:

Do all cans don’t do everything as well as dedicated cans, but to say they do nothing well is a little harsh.

The Hybrid is an excellent PCC/subgun can for its size and weight, does well on big bore hosts, is a great can for sub-caliber hosts with dubious muzzle threading, loose 3-lugs, or over gassing when used on sub-calibers, and the most versatile can on the market for somebody who wants to try different hosts before deciding on dedicated suppressors. It’s not for rimfire, decibel chasers, gram weenies, K-sizing, 4” barreled SBRs, or belt feds, but does hold its own on precision rifle. It’s a great fill-in can for somebody who already has mounts, pistons and front caps that fit. The mount threading is fairly common among 4 or 5 manufacturers.
I bought one for a 45/70 or 358 SOCOM bolt gun to hunt subsonic & thought bonus, I can run it on a pistol if’n I wish.
Those cutaway cans are impressive! I didn’t expect that from what I’ve read.
 
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