Supreme court refused AB5 case...indy truckers are now employees.

[turkeydance]

well....California, of course.
quote:

California ruled that independent drivers are employees not contractors.
The US Supreme Court refused the case. The ruling creates a huge potential for a massive truck shipping logjam.

here is just one of the links
with information about this:

California AB5 Ruling May Disrupt All West Coast Truck Shipments

A Tweet Chain by Freight Waves spells out the problem. Half of the Industry is Impacted Supreme Court Breaking News: SCOTUS denies certiorari;

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[fieldgrade]

I was thinking about ordering a trailer out of California. It would be made in Cali, and shipped from there. I wonder if it effects something not port related?

 

[Chihuahua Floyd]

I was thinking about ordering a trailer out of California. It would be made in Cali, and shipped from there. I wonder if it effects something not port related?

Looks like it is all of comminforina, not just ports. You are screwed.

 

[Jerzsubbie]

I’m not familiar with this case and on what grounds they ruled that contractors are employees, but in general I’m not a fan of the “contractor” model so many companies are using these days.

Take Uber for example. They claim every single driver is an independent contractor. You can employ drivers and still give them flexibility in their schedule, to work whenever they please. By calling them contractors you avoid liability and, I believe, min wage requirements.

If your workforce is practically 100% contractors, that may be a problem. Like most things, there are great examples of it being necessary, but you get a few that exploit it and now it’s no longer a good thing.

 

[The Last Outlaw]

I’m not familiar with this case and on what grounds they ruled that contractors are employees, but in general I’m not a fan of the “contractor” model so many companies are using these days.

Take Uber for example. They claim every single driver is an independent contractor. You can employ drivers and still give them flexibility in their schedule, to work whenever they please. By calling them contractors you avoid liability and, I believe, min wage requirements.

If your workforce is practically 100% contractors, that may be a problem. Like most things, there are great examples of it being necessary, but you get a few that exploit it and now it’s no longer a good thing.

If they are paid as contractors, it also means that the employer doesn't have to match their Social Security either. That's the real reason so many companies want to employ contractors.

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

Like most things, I'm sure there are ups and downs to how things work in the trucking business with respect to how the businesses are run.

But it really amazes me how we can take something like a trucking business, which simply boils down to picking up goods in one location and delivering them to another by drivers who want to be paid to do that, can end up so frickin' over complicated.