Syrian Air strikes Started

wsfiredude said:
Well, just hang on...

Sodium levels continue to rise with age.
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Gonna suck for everyone around me lol.

wsfiredude said:
I guarantee that at some point in time during this ordeal and what is to follow, we will lose liberty 'in order to protect our freedoms'.

Think about that.
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Not much more they can take from us
 
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It would make no sense for this to go nuclear, or to expand it to outside the Middle East. Neither government is in a position to convince their people to sacrifice in order to achieve a hollow victory.

If it expands, and I don’t think that likely, it’s more likely to go cyber than to go nuclear. Say we shut off all the power in Moscow, or they do the same in NY. It’ll suck, but it’s a long way from nukes.
 
JimB said:
Say we shut off all the power in Moscow, or they do the same in NY. It’ll suck, but it’s a long way from nukes.
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If the Russians shut off all of the power in NYC, then I think that's a great start to taking our country back.
 
Cowboy said:
I remember the night that the first gulf war started. I was playing basketball at my church and someone ran in and said the war just started. Everyone was like Heck yeah! Except one kid who just walked out in tears. That was the first time I actually realized the reality of others having family in the military.
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Remember that night vividly as I was up on the Saudi Arabian/Kuwaiti border observing the Iraqi's in occupied Kuwait. Whole northern sky opened up with AA fire at our aircraft. Next morning the Iraqi's shelled our border post with 122mm artillery and missed. God speed to our aircrews.

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Afghanistan/Pakistan border area
 
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OK, so technically to make this more applicable to the current situation Russia would need to cruise missile the ATF. Wait, that doesn't sound so bad actually. lol

RedneckFur said:
It might be tin foil hat time, but honestly, I've always felt that there were groups of rich, powerful people who wanted a 'war to end all wars' in hopes that it will bring the rapture, second coming, "insert favorable, religious end of the world scenario here" kinda situation.

The founding fathers warned us of the dangers of having a military. They warned us of the dangers of getting involved in European and world politics. We didn't listen.
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Right idea, wrong building. The ISIS, Caliphate, 12th immam ends in the Dubiq Valley in Syria. Islam's version of Armageddon. Christian end times takes place in Meggido. While it's possible, it would take a stupid Christian to think it's in Syria. And they would have to hurry up and get that pesky Dome of the Rock down to build the Temple real quick.


BTW, we have no friend, allies, or anyone that even likes us in Syria. WTH are we doing?
 
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“Well, I’m gonna get everybody home from this pointless foreign adventure.......NO WAIT A PERFECTLY TIMED CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACK!!!!”

Jesus I can’t believe people still swallow this shit.
 
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I wonder how many millions of dollars of weaponry was wasted in this new political posturing?

I saw Mattis and a Marine General stumbling over each other in a press conference responding to questions about interacting with the Russians.

No, we did not notify the Russians ahead of time of the targets of our airstrikes.
Yes, we used the normal process with the Russians to "deconflict" our use of airspace over Syria.
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Gotcha' - nobody told the Russians we were going to bomb Bufmuck, we just said please stay away from some of our planes that are taking a nighttime sightseeing tour to Bufmuck and back.
 
Someone posted it on p1, but here is full quote tweet from Russian ambassador


"A pre-designed scenario is being implemented. Again, we are being threatened. We warned that such actions will not be left without consequences. All responsibility for them rests with Washington, London and Paris."

They feel threatened when three allies gang up on them...this seems familiar. About 100 years ago, or so.


I really dislike this. I just dont get it.
And I dont get Trump. I dont understand his messed up way of thinking.
I fear he's getting pulled into another WMD-style screw up, like W did 17 years ago.
But, sure, Art of Deal, he's got this expertly figured out..,
 
Some units already deploying. Up til now it was primarily just SF in Syria.

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HMP said:
And I dont get Trump. I dont understand his messed up way of thinking.
I fear he's getting pulled into another WMD-style screw up, like W did 17 years ago.
But, sure, Art of Deal, he's got this expertly figured out..,
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Trump has been shown how profitable war is. Has been shown how deep the American workers pocket is. How easy it is to keep his hands in the cookie jar.

Real Estate is play money in comparisons.

We could have put Moses in that chair. And he to would have fallen to the ills of DC just as fast
 
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There is no solid evidence Assad gassed them. He was already winning. There is plenty of evidence the various rebel factions lie and murder their own in internal disputes then parade the bodies for propaganda. Seems odd some of the pics of "victims" are handled by the white hats who are wearing no protection. Syria wasn't a problem until we made it one.
 
john galt said:
There is no solid evidence Assad gassed them. He was already winning. There is plenty of evidence the various rebel factions lie and murder their own in internal disputes then parade the bodies for propaganda. Seems odd some of the pics of "victims" are handled by the white hats who are wearing no protection. Syria wasn't a problem until we made it one.
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Exactly. Taqiya allows murdering innocent people to advance the agenda. Hamas has been murdering their own to get sympathy from a compliant western media for decades.

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Why?
Seriously.
Why do this? Why bring in two other nations in on it when it really had no concern for any of the three countries.
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You bring in twomother nations to add a veneer of legitimacy. The masses are sitting at home right saying if the UK and France were involved then it must be ok. The enlightened Europeans, especially GASP the French wouldn't bomb people for no good reason.
 
drypowder said:
They all succumb to AIPAC, which is why Democrats and Republicans always seem to be two sides of the same shekel.

Nearly every talking head in the media over the last few days spoke definitively of Assad being responsible. They didn't ask the exceedingly obvious question - what did Assad (or Iran or Russia) stand to gain from a gas attack? The jihadists and the countries funding them (US, Israel, SA) benefited from this gas attack.

These talking heads aren't complete idiots. They are in on the agenda.
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And three guesses, and the first two don’t count, as to who owns the majority of the mass media and where their loyalties lie.
 
I’m not too worried about war. I am concerned about panic shoppers, this is why I advise my friends to have a couple weeks worth of the basic necessities. It would take less than a day to empty local shelves and over a week to fully restock them. A week is a long time without a pop tart. :)
 
ISIS launches offensive in southern Damascus after US Coalition bombs Syria
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BEIRUT, LEBANON (8:20 A.M.) – The Islamic State (ISIS) took advantage of the U.S. Coalition’s latest attack to launch a powerful offensive inside the southern part of Damascus, a Syrian military source told Al-Masdar this morning.

According to the military source, the Islamic State began their assault by storming the Syrian Army’s positions along the western axis of the Al-Qadam District.

But don't worry, the US stated goal of defeating ISIS still stands. Don't let the mountain of evidence that ISIS was born and raised under US watch, supplied by US allies, equipped with American weapons, strengthened by US trained jihadists, and have their bacon saved on a regular basis by US strikes against the Syrian Army, dissuade you from the narrative.

If you are more cynical, you might come to think that ISIS is a US.gov proxy, one that has been planned and nurtured for years, and that US.gov has plans for said proxy and will not let it be wiped out.
 
fuelpiper said:
I’m not too worried about war. I am concerned about panic shoppers, this is why I advise my friends to have a couple weeks worth of the basic necessities. It would take less than a day to empty local shelves and over a week to fully restock them. A week is a long time without a pop tart. :)
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Will the panic shopping be worse than when they forecast snow?
 
While Trump appears to have been co-opted by the deep state/neocons as Obama was, and Bush before him, one interesting aspect of all this is Trump's warning to Syria and Russia.

Trump has said many times that you don't warn your enemy, but this is exactly what he did with his tweet. Not only did he tell them missiles were coming, he even told them "smart" missiles would be used. And last night was the first combat use of the JASSM advanced missile. This gave Syria some time to relocate important assets.

And it appears, as with the Tomahawk missile strike in 2017 (after another false flag gas attack regarding which Mattis admitted earlier this year we still don't know who carried it out), the damage was contained, assuming there's some truth to this Russian claim: Russia claims Syria air defences shot down 71 of 103 missiles (I think it's more likely that some of the missiles were shot down, but not nearly as many as being claimed).

I could be reading too much into this, and maybe Trump has been hopelessly sucked into the swamp, but this attack could have been much more devastating to the Syrian Army and put the jihadists in an even better position than it did.
 
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JimB said:
Will the panic shopping be worse than when they forecast snow?
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Well, who knows? I would assume yes because folks can wipe out all the bread and milk in an entire town in a few hours over the possibility of two or three days worth of travel inconvenience , imagine what those same people would do if CNN blurted out something about the threat of chemical attacks on us soil. It’s an assumption on my part based on common sense, I suppose.

Anyway, I, like probably all of us here, think it best to always have a couple weeks worth of rotated essentials just in case of any event that may temp. empty shelves.

Truckers will find a way to deliver, it’s their livelihood.
Retailers will procure stock, it’s their livelihood.
Etc.
Making sure I don’t have to go without a bowl of Fruity Pebbles while they do, is on me.
 
CZfool68 said:
You bring in twomother nations to add a veneer of legitimacy. The masses are sitting at home right saying if the UK and France were involved then it must be ok. The enlightened Europeans, especially GASP the French wouldn't bomb people for no good reason.
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And I'm here thinking some of those peaceful Syrian refugees in France will blow something up or run people over within the week because of this.

drypowder said:
While Trump appears to have been co-opted by the deep state/neocons as Obama was, and Bush before him, one interesting aspect of all this is Trump's warning to Syria and Russia.

Trump has said many times that you don't warn your enemy, but this is exactly what he did with his tweet. Not only did he tell them missiles were coming, he even told them "smart" missiles would be used. And last night was the first combat use of the JASSM advanced missile. This gave Syria some time to relocate important assets.

And it appears, as with the Tomahawk missile strike in 2017 (after another false flag gas attack regarding which Mattis admitted earlier this year we still don't know who carried it out), the damage was contained, assuming there's some truth to this Russian claim: Russia claims Syria air defences shot down 71 of 103 missiles (I think it's more likely that some of the missiles were shot down, but not nearly as many as being claimed).

I could be reading too much into this, and maybe Trump has been hopelessly sucked into the swamp, but this attack could have been much more devastating to the Syrian Army and put the jihadists in an even better position than it did.
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A 10% loss isn't that bad, but a 10% success rate sure sucks. Since it was 3 locations, if the missile defense argument is factual (yeah, good luck with that) a lot of stuff still got torn up. If it was still there to be torn up.

Sure would have been cheaper to keep them in the tubes though.

BTW, you want to rant about the US being Israel's attack dog. This time it was France and Britain holding the leash. They have more investment in this than we do and my understanding is it was their idea. Another WTH are we doing angle.
 
I find it a bit disingenuous for the United States to decry the (alleged) use of chemical weapons.

In the early 80s, we supplied Iraq (Hussein) with materials and technology necessary to produce chemical weapons...the same weapons used in Halabja in 88.
 
But we, with two other countries, took out a potential threat to humans (possibly even US) without any civilian deaths. Where is the bad in that? As far as not telling us (and our enemies!) what he plans to do, unlike Obama he is not giving the 'heads up" to our enemy.
 
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But we, with two other countries, took out a potential threat to humans (possibly even US) without any civilian deaths. Where is the bad in that?
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Because the United States attacked a sovereign nation that had neither threatened to attack nor attacked us directly.
 
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