Talk me out of building a kit car... Daytona Coupe

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In order to hot rod a factory production vehicle without regard to emissions equipment in my county requires that it be at least 35 years old. I really don't have the budget for a 60's muscle car in any condition I would want, and I don't want a late 70's, early 80's POS donor to fool with, so I have been toying with the idea of building a kit. I'd probably just order a crate engine to drop in it, after I figure out which bank to rob to pay for it.

I've talked myself out of this maybe three times in the past five years. This is the kit I am currently considering. They have a new Gen 3 that is totally redesigned and reengineered. You know, like a Glock.
http://www.factoryfive.com/kits/type-65-coupe/
I've got to see if I can even get in one. I understand you don't get in it, as much as you put it on.

Thoughts,
suggestions,
gratuitous ridicule?

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DCGallim said:
You are tall. Find one to sit in before you get to serious about it.
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It's on the agenda when I can find one. Sadly, as good of a reputation as Factory Five enjoys, they are based in the People's Republic of Massachusetts. Even though I have a brother there, I am just not going there again in the current climate.
 
DCGallim said:
Have you tried any of the classic car places in CLT to see if they have one for sale?
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I keep an eye on them faithfully. The Shelby 427 Cobra kit cars are widely available, but I just want something different. I'd like to build one myself if I can muster the courage. ( and funds)
 
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I bet you could buy many new guns, keep them a short time and sell them off ;) for what this will cost. And, think of all the ammo you could buy!
 
Mike V said:
I bet you could buy many new guns, keep them a short time and sell them off ;) for what this will cost. And, think of all the ammo you could buy!
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I can work with this reasoning. lol
 
fieldgrade said:
In order to hot rod a factory production vehicle without regard to emissions equipment in my county requires that it be at least 35 years old. I really don't have the budget for a 60's muscle car in any condition I would want, and I don't want a late 70's, early 80's POS donor to fool with, so I have been toying with the idea of building a kit. I'd probably just order a crate engine to drop in it, after I figure out which bank to rob to pay for it.

I've talked myself out of this maybe three times in the past five years. This is the kit I am currently considering. They have a new Gen 3 that is totally redesigned and reengineered. You know, like a Glock.
http://www.factoryfive.com/kits/type-65-coupe/
I've got to see if I can even get in one. I understand you don't get in it, as much as you put it on.

Thoughts,
suggestions,
gratuitous ridicule?

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that car is damn sexy, i want to rub my junk on it. oh sorry was i supposed to convince you to make one?
 
Zedhound said:
if you do make one dont ruin it with all those numbers and stickers garbage, and that blue is nice
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They only made six original Type 65's (Shelby "Daytona Coupes" designed by Pete Brock), and they were all race cars. Worth about $8MM apiece these days. Never built for the street.
 
oh i thought you wanted to buy a complete kit then add an engine, seems to be going for 20k + paint,engine,trans
 
Zedhound said:
oh i thought you wanted to buy a complete kit then add an engine, seems to be going for 20k + paint,engine,trans
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and rearend, wheels, and tires.

It is a bottomless pit, I'm sure.

But what a way to go bankrupt.
 
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Tigard said:
If we can all hang out in your garage, drink beer, talk junk and scratch ourselves while bustin' on you for buying a kit to begin with, I'm all for it. Keep us posted - I'll bring beer.
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If the engine has enough cam to scare women and small children at the street corner, whatever is housing the engine will not matter.

Here's a real one at the track. Forward to :37 to hear it. It is magnificent both at idle, and in the back straight.

 
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Of all the options, the Daytona Coupe is my dream kit car. Not sure if it's still that way, but used to you just needed the kit and essentially a donor foxbody drivetrain. I'd do a coyote turnkey kit and a T56 Magnum or the like and a 9". I WILL build one myself someday. You have great taste.
 
We at CFF will let you spend your $$, sell off your guns at a discount to get more $$, get sick of the 'project' as you get impatient, then sell it here for half of what you put into it.

Heck, skip all that and just give me $10k and save yourself some money! I'll remind you whenever you need to on how you really don't want it. See how easy that is...

-R
 
dubnali said:
Of all the options, the Daytona Coupe is my dream kit car. Not sure if it's still that way, but used to you just needed the kit and essentially a donor foxbody drivetrain. I'd do a coyote turnkey kit and a T56 Magnum or the like and a 9". I WILL build one myself someday. You have great taste.
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The new Gen 3 kit really has my attention. More legroom for us big 'uns, but the frame is not as true to the original. Tradeoffs.
 
fieldgrade said:
In order to hot rod a factory production vehicle without regard to emissions equipment in my county requires that it be at least 35 years old. I really don't have the budget for a 60's muscle car in any condition I would want, and I don't want a late 70's, early 80's POS donor to fool with, so I have been toying with the idea of building a kit. I'd probably just order a crate engine to drop in it, after I figure out which bank to rob to pay for it.

I've talked myself out of this maybe three times in the past five years. This is the kit I am currently considering. They have a new Gen 3 that is totally redesigned and reengineered. You know, like a Glock.
http://www.factoryfive.com/kits/type-65-coupe/
I've got to see if I can even get in one. I understand you don't get in it, as much as you put it on.

Thoughts,
suggestions,
gratuitous ridicule?

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Hey dad, can I get $200 by 5pm:D

Brother if you can do a kit car at that level. Advice won't help.

I've always dreamed of picking up an old compact pickup and dropping serious coin to sleeper the hell out of it. It takes a lot of work to get the power to transfer but that adds to the fun... Do NO bodywork. Still cheaper than a kit car;)
 
DCGallim said:
There's a reason most race car drivers are midgets.
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According to the Factory Five forum, the new Gen 3 frame accommodates guys my size, with the right race seats, although ingress and egress to and from the vehicle ain't dainty.
 
fieldgrade said:
The new Gen 3 kit really has my attention. More legroom for us big 'uns, but the frame is not as true to the original. Tradeoffs.
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Haven't looked at the Gen 3, but they're still the sexiest kit on the market. Like you said, Cobra kits are a dime a dozen. Do a Daytona Coupe with a Terminator or Coyote swap for real attention-getting power.
 
dubnali said:
Haven't looked at the Gen 3, but they're still the sexiest kit on the market. Like you said, Cobra kits are a dime a dozen. Do a Daytona Coupe with a Terminator or Coyote swap for real attention-getting power.
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And this kit is priced the same as the 427 car, which I am not sure I get. For my money, I'd MUCH prefer the Coupe, but getting in and out of a 427 car, or even an earlier 289 car is always easier.
 
fieldgrade said:
Now yer talkin'
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Originally, I wanted to head down the v8 path. Page one of the build guide talked me out of it.

Disclaimers
Please don't skim over this section.
Let’s face it, the end goal of this project is to turn a reasonable, perfectly innocent Miata into something that might be slightly safer than a motorcycle. To take on a project like this, you need to be a certain kind of crazy. We at Exomotive live for this sort of crazy, but there’s no reason to take unnecessary risks in any step of the process.

Let’s get this out of the way right now: if you’re adding forced induction or a V8 swap into the mix, get some driver training. Seriously, we’re past the marketing speech here: a turbo and/or V8 Exocet is seriously, terrifyingly fast. It is faster than most road course racecars. It is faster than your friend’s buddy’s neighbor’s back-halved 600hp Camaro. With just an FMII bolt-on turbo kit and no internal mods, our own XP-3 has the same power-to-weight as a Ferrari Enzo and most liter-bikes. To put that in perspective, that’s like driving a new Mustang GT with 800 hp.1500lbs is crazy-light, and a little power goes a long way. The Exocet is inherently very easy to drive, but the power-to-weight levels of even a turbocharged 1.8 makes driving one of these things a special experience. Some of you are planning 500+hp LSx builds. Please be careful, and understand what you’re getting into.
 
The Gurney bubble is a must have on a Daytona.. The history on that is very amusing..

Wish we lived closer, would be a fun project to donate some time and brain cells into the bottomless pit of money and compromise..

I did race prep and overhauls on a several GT40's , Daytonas and Cobras for SVRA etc.. a few too many years back..
 
Johnny said:
The Gurney bubble is a must have on a Daytona...
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They dropped the floor 2.5 inches on the latest iteration of this kit, so that achieves pretty much the same thing.
 
fieldgrade said:
If the engine has enough cam to scare women and small children at the street corner, whatever is housing the engine will not matter.

Here's a real one at the track. Forward to :37 to hear it. It is magnificent both at idle, and in the back straight.

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I laughed out loud as the she pulled out onto pit road and set off the Ferrari security alarm with combustion explosions! :D
 
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