Teslas replace Chargers in police fleet

They're saving @ $6K in gas annually. They didn't mention what are they going to spend in electricity to charge the batteries.
Good question. Anyone know how much it does cost to fully charge one of those? And how long does it take to fully charge?
 
Good question. Anyone know how much it does cost to fully charge one of those? And how long does it take to fully charge?
Now you sent me off on a tangent.
Probably @ $10-$15 per charge, a 240mi range if just driven without all the other power suckers going.
From https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/how-many-kw-charge-tesla
For example:
12000miles/year
Avg energy consumption 330 Wh/mile
Total energy consumption = 12000 x .330 x 1.15(charger loss of 15%)=
4554 kWh
Annual cost = 4554kWh x .095 (cost per kWh in my city) = $432.63

Previous ICE, BMW 5 series, Mile/gallon approximately 21
12000mile/21mile/gallon = 571.4 gallons/year
571.4 gallons x $3.50 (cost of premium gas in my city) = $2000
Total dollars saved annually 2000 - 432.63 = $1567.37/year

Another https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/how-to-calculate-the-cost-to-charge.8562/

Tesla battery tear down: https://electrek.co/2017/01/24/tesla-teardown-100-kwh-battery-pack/
 
Gotta think/hope that they’ve been testing a few for the past year and have the issues worked out.

Heck maybe Elon is giving them some spare batteries and one of the battery swap stations that he decommissioned a couple years ago.
 
Now you sent me off on a tangent.
Probably @ $10-$15 per charge, a 240mi range if just driven without all the other power suckers going.
From https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/how-many-kw-charge-tesla
For example:
12000miles/year
Avg energy consumption 330 Wh/mile
Total energy consumption = 12000 x .330 x 1.15(charger loss of 15%)=
4554 kWh
Annual cost = 4554kWh x .095 (cost per kWh in my city) = $432.63

Previous ICE, BMW 5 series, Mile/gallon approximately 21
12000mile/21mile/gallon = 571.4 gallons/year
571.4 gallons x $3.50 (cost of premium gas in my city) = $2000
Total dollars saved annually 2000 - 432.63 = $1567.37/year

Another https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/how-to-calculate-the-cost-to-charge.8562/

Tesla battery tear down: https://electrek.co/2017/01/24/tesla-teardown-100-kwh-battery-pack/
So I gotta outrun them for 240 miles? Prob won’t happen unless I’m in a white ford bronco..
 
This could be the best test of this vehicle so far. Might pay to keep up with this. Real world + durability test.
Exactly. I’m genuinely excited to hear about this and can’t wait to see how well it does or how miserably it fails under such extreme use. Police beat the crap out of their cars, so this will give Tesla some good, real-life extreme usage data.
 
I guess the Prius will give the Tesla Patrol Cars a challenge?

 
Good question. Anyone know how much it does cost to fully charge one of those? And how long does it take to fully charge?
I cant speak to a FULL charge, but I know the TESLA speed chargers will pump in about 100 miles worth in 20-30 minutes
(I forget the exact number of miles and exactly how long we were at the charging point, but we stood around and talked for a short bit while my friend's P80D (i think that's the model) charged up approx 100 miles)

Range will increase
Charging time will drop

Cool move and could be a great boost for Tesla, but will be interesting to see how they fare with the extra cop stuff onboard.
 
I cant speak to a FULL charge, but I know the TESLA speed chargers will pump in about 100 miles worth in 20-30 minutes
(I forget the exact number of miles and exactly how long we were at the charging point, but we stood around and talked for a short bit while my friend's P80D (i think that's the model) charged up approx 100 miles)

Range will increase
Charging time will drop

Cool move and could be a great boost for Tesla, but will be interesting to see how they fare with the extra cop stuff onboard.

Yeah this right here is what I would worry about. But with LED lights it might not be as bad as one would think.
 
Im sure someone has looked into to this heavily and figured out a solution. I'd hope, at least.
 
Probably the same department making the same wise decisions that led to the sale of those semi m249s a while back.


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Im sure someone has looked into to this heavily and figured out a solution. I'd hope, at least.
Don’t bet the farm on that one. Maybe just a chicken or two.
 


Those numbers are jacked. The electric cost is probably about right, but a modern car that size should get considerably better gas mileage. Basically the fuel cost is a wash from what I have heard from owners of electrics.


Not sure how it will apply to police vehicles the way they drive/idle/waste fuel....
 
Basically the fuel cost is a wash from what I have heard from owners of electrics.

Eh, I think it depends.
My friend, who I referenced above, gets free charging for up to X amount a year or something (I forget the details) from Tesla chargers.

Quick google pulled up on the S and X models you get free charging.
So if you have one of those = no cost if using a tesla station, which are popping up at many of the Sheetz Ive seen as well as random other places like malls./strip malls
 
Eh, I think it depends.
My friend, who I referenced above, gets free charging for up to X amount a year or something (I forget the details) from Tesla chargers.

Quick google pulled up on the S and X models you get free charging.
So if you have one of those = no cost if using a tesla station, which are popping up at many of the Sheetz Ive seen as well as random other places like malls./strip malls

Those are a drop in the bucket though, ends next month, and not really feasible timewise for most user's. Who's sitting at a Sheetz waiting for their car to charge for 30-40mins minimum?

If they become the norm it will be a mess logistically...


Regardless, electric cars are far more expensive than gas cars and the fuel cost savings are minute at best. Top that off with the toxic mess the batteries are and you get a very non environmentally friendly product as well...

Don't get me wrong, they have a place and they're cool...
 
For most people, a 15 minute stop each day would be enough. Heck, maybe even every other day.

Previous ICE, BMW 5 series, Mile/gallon approximately 21
12000mile/21mile/gallon = 571.4 gallons/year
571.4 gallons x $3.50 (cost of premium gas in my city) = $2000
Total dollars saved annually 2000 - 432.63 = $1567.37/year

According to Google, Up to 24 city / 34 highway for the 530i, so the numbers are a little high for the cost per year
 
Who's sitting at a Sheetz waiting for their car to charge for 30-40mins minimum?
I can see where this would be a boon for Sheetz. They’re betting, and probably correct, that quite a few people will go in and have lunch during the charge time.
 
Isn’t electricity billed on a sliding scale? That is, high users kick into a higher rate if/when they use “too much” juice.

EDIT:
I was wrong...must be thinking about municipal water supply. What was I thinking that we’d be encouraged to not use much electricity?! Silly kids!

The rate actually goes down if you use a bunch.

RATE: I. II.
Basic Facilities Charge per month $14.00
Energy Charges
For the billing months of July – October All kWh* 8.5808¢
For the billing months of November – June
For the first 350 kWh used per month, per kWh* 8.5808¢
For all over 350 kWh used per month, per kW 7.6361¢

*For customers receiving Supplemental Security Income (SSI) under the program administered by the Social Security Administration and who are blind, disabled, or 65 years of age or over, the rate for the first 350 kWh used per month shall be 7.7637 cents per kWh. This is an experimental rate authorized by the North Carolina Utilities Commission on August 31, 1978. The present maximum discount to customers being served under this experiment is $2.86 per month.

https://www.duke-energy.com/_/media/pdfs/for-your-home/rates/electric-nc/ncschedulere.pdf?la=en
 
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Those numbers are jacked. The electric cost is probably about right, but a modern car that size should get considerably better gas mileage. Basically the fuel cost is a wash from what I have heard from owners of electrics.


Not sure how it will apply to police vehicles the way they drive/idle/waste fuel....

Municipal police patrol cars are very low. I haven't run the numbers, but low teens is what I have been told.

If this works and probably as long as it doesn't fail spectacularly you will see cities jump on, cause GREEN.
 
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