The New Hudson H9

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I have been eagerly waiting the arrival of this gun for awhile now. My interest in it has many reasons.

First, just to clear the air, one of my best friends is the head of manufacturing of this startup and he is a stickler for perfection and detail.

Second, although he wouldn't divulge anything to me about the design, I could tell that what they were working on was, in essence, a striker fired 1911 and that is something that I have always thought would be the perfect pistol.

But this gun is much more than that. It is a ground up design, several years in the making.

I was lucky enough to get in on the first run of these pistols. Mine should be arriving some time in February. Once it gets here I will be putting it through it's paces and writing as unbiased a review as is possible for someone as excited about a new gun as I am. But trust me I will pull no punches if they are warranted.

I will also allow any of you to meet me at any range and test it our for yourselves.

So finally, after a long wait the website went live this morning at 9 am EST.

Discuss.

https://www.hudsonmfg.com/product/
 
Looks promising. I don't like that price tag although I have bought more expensive ones.
 
If you go to the home page of their webiste, check out the video. It is, IMO. a pretty epic launch video following the evolution of weaponry.
 
Yeah, I thought this was a relaunch of the car company, too. That looks like an interesting pistol. Any idea when they will hit the market? I might drive over to test yours.
 
When E-man started posting teasers for this it immediately grabbed my attention because knowing him he wouldn't work on a crap product. Now after seeing it I am planning on getting one as soon as possible. I am envious of you for getting in on the first round and I will certainly be expecting an invite to come shoot it.
 
cubrock;n50198 said:
Yeah, I thought this was a relaunch of the car company, too. That looks like an interesting pistol. Any idea when they will hit the market? I might drive over to test yours.

No I don't unfortunately. I know I sent my form off for the first run about 2 weeks ago. I was told that I would get an invoice that would need to be paid before Jan 31'st.

I think the first run is 10,000 pistols so I would think they would hit the open market some time in February or March as well.

I'm sure Frmr0317 will be along shortly to give more insight.
 
I don't get it. If you keep it stock it is basically a very expensive PPQ/VP9 type striker gun with a good trigger. But metal framed and heavier. Just different looks to draw in the 1911 guys. So you are paying somewhere around $400 or so more to get there. Or you can add the thumb safety and have a 1911 function for what is bordering on very good 1911 territory. For $1,000 or so they are some solid 1911's. Guess someone will have to shoot these a bunch and see if they are worth it. Plus we'll have to see what true street price ends up being.
 
B00ger;n50207 said:
When E-man started posting teasers for this it immediately grabbed my attention because knowing him he wouldn't work on a crap product. Now after seeing it I am planning on getting one as soon as possible. I am envious of you for getting in on the first round and I will certainly be expecting an invite to come shoot it.

I requested serial number 666 but it was already taken. I then asked for 187 and it too was gone. Fingers crossed for #69
 
You really don't get a feel for how low the bore axis is until you watch it being fired in the video.

The video is also pretty cool in it's own right.

Compatible with any existing pistols mags? Guessing with a 1911 grip angle you won't be stuffing G19 mags in there but maybe it feeds from a sig mag?
 
Also, eagerly awaiting the MSRP so I can decide which appendage I will be selling.
 
Chdamn;n50208 said:
No I don't unfortunately. I know I sent my form off for the first run about 2 weeks ago. I was told that I would get an invoice that would need to be paid before Jan 31'st.

I think the first run is 10,000 pistols so I would think they would hit the open market some time in February or March as well.

I'm sure Frmr0317 will be along shortly to give more insight.


Well, now I finally know why he moved to Texas. :) I never saw his posts about this, else I might have done something crazy and gotten in on the first run, too. Look forward to your getting it and your review!
 
CZfool68;n50210 said:
I don't get it. If you keep it stock it is basically a very expensive PPQ/VP9 type striker gun with a good trigger. But metal framed and heavier. Just different looks to draw in the 1911 guys. So you are paying somewhere around $400 or so more to get there. Or you can add the thumb safety and have a 1911 function for what is bordering on very good 1911 territory. For $1,000 or so they are some solid 1911's. Guess someone will have to shoot these a bunch and see if they are worth it. Plus we'll have to see what true street price ends up being.

I get it. And as a friend of mine chided me "Why would I spend $1000 dollars on a Glock when I already have one I paid $400 dollars for.

All I can tell you so far, having not had the opportunity to shoot it myself, is that there is a lot of impressive engineering in this handgun and the fit and finish of it, from what I understand, will rival some more expensive custom pieces.

The thing that impressed me most, if you watch the video, is the almost non existent recoil due to the low barrel axis. Something the PPQ had the opposite of. I own one and the muzzle flip is enormous.
 
This is awesome...it isn't even on the market and nothing more than images have been seen and the haters are lining up.
 
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B00ger;n50215 said:
Also, eagerly awaiting the MSRP so I can decide which appendage I will be selling.

MSRP is $1150 or there abouts. And you are of course invited to shoot mine. I'd be disappointed if you didn't.
 
Chdamn;n50238 said:
MSRP is $1150 or there abouts. And you are of course invited to shoot mine. I'd be disappointed if you didn't.

Wouldn't be the first time a bunch of folks got together to play with your gun...
 
B00ger said:
Chdamn;n50238 said:
MSRP is $1150 or there abouts. And you are of course invited to shoot mine. I'd be disappointed if you didn't.

Wouldn't be the first time a bunch of folks got together to play with your gun...
$5 to look at it. $10 for me to touch it. $15 for you to touch it.
 
B00ger said:
This is awesome...it isn't even on the market and nothing more than images have been seen and the haters are lining up.
Not hating, just comparing it to what else is available. But nobody really know until we get to fondle it and put holes in paper. Hell I'd love to own a $5,000 Wilson Combat even though my current 1911's run perfectly and shoot straight. Budget and logic don't matter with gun lust.
 
B00ger said:
Chdamn;n50238 said:
MSRP is $1150 or there abouts. And you are of course invited to shoot mine. I'd be disappointed if you didn't.

Wouldn't be the first time a bunch of folks got together to play with your gun...
Tradesies?
 
jcornSS;n50317 said:
I know nothing about this pistol, but I gotta give them props already..... Someone has finally made a pistol uglier than a Glock lmao.

Hahahaha. I guess it's true that beauty is in the eye of the beholder because I really like the way it looks. It has some of the lines of a 1911 with enough difference to make it interesting.
 
Just watched the video. That was really well done. They must have some good financial backing.
 
Chdamn;n50328 said:
Hahahaha. I guess it's true that beauty is in the eye of the beholder because I really like the way it looks. It has some of the lines of a 1911 with enough difference to make it interesting.

I agree...at first I was kinda questioning whether I liked it or now. But when I considered the "why" behind the design it reminds me of the Chiappa Rhino in a way. To do things different things have to change. My >only< concern would be with how low a WML would hang and whether or not hitting an on/off switch would be an issue.
 
B00ger;n50366 said:
I agree...at first I was kinda questioning whether I liked it or now. But when I considered the "why" behind the design it reminds me of the Chiappa Rhino in a way. To do things different things have to change. My >only< concern would be with how low a WML would hang and whether or not hitting an on/off switch would be an issue.

DCGallim and I were just talking about that. I don't use a light so it's not a concern for me.
 
I like it. That price tag is a bit much for me normally though.
 
Tagged for interest. It's within 1/4" of a Glock 19 size but It's a bit heavy.
I like the look. But I like the look of a Glock too.
 
They should have consulted a holster guy. That transition from the frame to the trigger guard is so small I bet you will not be able to build a leather holster for it that works worth a crap. The shelf that the trigger guard makes holds the pistol up in the holster, keeping it from sliding too far into the holster. The only good option left for a leather holster is closing the toe on it to create a shelf for the end of the slide to sit on. Kydex "might" work better. Hybrids, no way in hell it works well.

Looks cool. But not sure I would take on trying to make a holster for it.
 
Was hoping he would show up with some demos in NC at sometime. He has been teasing enough with little bits of info. We may be friends, but don't think he will comp me one
 
chiefjason;n50617 said:
They should have consulted a holster guy. That transition from the frame to the trigger guard is so small I bet you will not be able to build a leather holster for it that works worth a crap. The shelf that the trigger guard makes holds the pistol up in the holster, keeping it from sliding too far into the holster. The only good option left for a leather holster is closing the toe on it to create a shelf for the end of the slide to sit on. Kydex "might" work better. Hybrids, no way in hell it works well.

Looks cool. But not sure I would take on trying to make a holster for it.

Listen here dammit. Either you or gunbelt is making me a damn holster. Lol.
 
Chdamn said:
chiefjason;n50617 said:
They should have consulted a holster guy. That transition from the frame to the trigger guard is so small I bet you will not be able to build a leather holster for it that works worth a crap. The shelf that the trigger guard makes holds the pistol up in the holster, keeping it from sliding too far into the holster. The only good option left for a leather holster is closing the toe on it to create a shelf for the end of the slide to sit on. Kydex "might" work better. Hybrids, no way in hell it works well.

Looks cool. But not sure I would take on trying to make a holster for it.

Listen here dammit. Either you or gunbelt is making me a damn holster. Lol.
bwahahahaha But on a serous note, these gun engineers never really think about the holster making side of things. Some of the things they do are awful. Sig Ejection ports are too sharp, a lot of controls are to large/sharp, ambi safeties get clicked off, funny mag buttons, aggressive rail textures. On and on.
 
The straight-pull trigger looks very promising, as does the ingenious trigger safety.

The way the bore axis was lowered by removing the recoil mechanism from between the trigger and barrel is absolutely brilliant. Unfortunately, that innovation will also prevent building much smaller versions of the gun.

The MSRP is ... sobering.
 
Looks really nice. One big issue I see is their trigger safety. Looks like a dumb design if it actually does what it's supposed to. I know it's a straight back pull trigger, but with the hinge at the bottom if your trigger is low on the trigger you won't be able to pull it. Seems like a bad design. Why does everything have to have a hinged trigger safety these days?

Would like to see that trigger weight adjustable...
 
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bigfelipe;n50799 said:
Looks really nice. One big issue I see is their trigger safety. Looks like a dumb design if it actually does what it's supposed to. I know it's a straight back pull trigger, but with the hinge at the bottom if your trigger is low on the trigger you won't be able to pull it. Seems like a bad design. Why does everything have to have a hinged trigger safety these days?

Would like to see that trigger weight adjustable...

From what I understand the trigger safety was designed in such a way as to center your finger in the best position for optimal trigger pull.

Untill i I have it in my grubby hands I won't be able to say for sure.

I concede at first glance it appears a little silly however I'll reserve judgement until I try it.

As to why? My assumption is to have an integral safety without a thumb safety. But apparently you can addd a thumb safety too.
 
Chdamn said:
bigfelipe;n50799 said:
Looks really nice. One big issue I see is their trigger safety. Looks like a dumb design if it actually does what it's supposed to. I know it's a straight back pull trigger, but with the hinge at the bottom if your trigger is low on the trigger you won't be able to pull it. Seems like a bad design. Why does everything have to have a hinged trigger safety these days?

Would like to see that trigger weight adjustable...

From what I understand the trigger safety was designed in such a way as to center your finger in the best position for optimal trigger pull.

Untill i I have it in my grubby hands I won't be able to say for sure.

I concede at first glance it appears a little silly however I'll reserve judgement until I try it.

As to why? My assumption is to have an integral safety without a thumb safety. But apparently you can addd a thumb safety too.
I suppose I'll reserve judgement... wait... nah... I'll start judging now...
 
Have they said what the target market for this pistol is, competition, personal defense, etc? Looks like a really cool design and should be an ultra flat shooter with not only the low bore axis but the fairly heavy weight also, plus it being 9mm. I would love to run one a bit and see what it would do.

I bet if you check some of the 1911 forums the hard core traditional 1911 guys are probably making plans for a lynching, or will be once they catch wind of someone trying to improve on their beloved JMB design.
 
dave33;n50979 said:
Have they said what the target market for this pistol is, competition, personal defense, etc? Looks like a really cool design and should be an ultra flat shooter with not only the low bore axis but the fairly heavy weight also, plus it being 9mm. I would love to run one a bit and see what it would do.

I bet if you check some of the 1911 forums the hard core traditional 1911 guys are probably making plans for a lynching, or will be once they catch wind of someone trying to improve on their beloved JMB design.


Lol. Yeah I read some comments like that when it was being teased around.

Also things like are in this thread. The bottom line is that when someone comes up with something new there will be those that embrace it without question because it's new. And those that hate it for the same reason.

I'd like to think I fall somewhere in the middle. I'm willing to try anything that's innovative. If it's a flop I'll let everyone know and if it's great I'll do the same.

Knowing a couple of the key players in this company I find that I'm not cautiously optimistic like I normally am but just optimistic.

Which is good and bad. It means I will be very upset if it isn't everything I think it is.
 
B00ger said:
This is awesome...it isn't even on the market and nothing more than images have been seen and the haters are lining up.
My Honda Odyssey gets me from Point A to Point B quite effectively, but that dosent mean I wouldn't want a nice Italian Supercross if I had the means. Point is you can't limit purchase decisions to whether something improves on something else. Sometimes you buy something because it works for what you want it to do, looks like you want, and because you have the coin to buy it.
 
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