This ever happen to you, on any handgun

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Today, on my MP9 the magazine release spring, you know the spring wire that sticks out of the frame and provides tension to the release button, well mine just popped out while shooting, the weapon has a out 500 rounds through it and the magazine just dropped out along with the spring wire. Now it didn't break it just came out of the frame, I put it back in, but the hole is kind of enlarged and the spring wire has too much movement in it, it still holds the magazine in place, but Im worried it will come out again at the most in-opportune time . What should I do....leave it as is or use some metal epoxy to keep it secure, or send it back for a warranty repair, I really don't want to send it away for God knows how long...what would you guys do. I really do need some input on this to help me decide, Im up in the air about this, I know its stupid but it really annoys me waiting on a warranty repair for however much time they take.


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Warranty.

Smith & Wesson has great customer svc too. I don't think you would be down long. Plus….its the factory fix. And you don't have bo-bo goop on your frame :)
 
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I just got my BG380 back after 5 weeks. Shot 3 magazines thru it and decided it's going back again. I won't mind if they just keep it.

If I were you, I wouldn't do anything myself. You paid good money and they should make it right. What if your fix messed it up permanently?
 
I just got my BG380 back after 5 weeks. Shot 3 magazines thru it and decided it's going back again. I won't mind if they just keep it.

If I were you, I wouldn't do anything myself. You paid good money and they should make it right. What if your fix messed it up permanently?

I really don't think my fix would mess it up permanently,it would just be enough, barely a drop to secure the wire in its proper position, Ive used this stuff before and its really good, you can even drill and tap it its so hard, like metal or polymer even, also Im very good with my hands, having been an auto body tech and mechanic for over 40 years. I also have worked as a tool maker and can work with small parts etc..so Im not really worried about this fix, it is minor and yes I paid good money and should let them do it, but its the time factor for such an easy fix, now if it was something more complicated or required specialized tools I would send it back...thank you all for your input, I still haven't decided ,I'll wait for more input from all you good people...ahh the little things how they complicate life.....


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If you "glue" the spring in place, what happens when it's time to replace it?
 
Warranty. Or you could simply fix it in a way that doesn't endanger the frame, such as putting a little bend or dimpling the spring to make it larger so it will stay in the hole. If that does not work then smith will still honor your warranty because you have not damaged or modified the frame. Replacement springs can be had cheap.
 
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If you "glue" the spring in place, what happens when it's time to replace it?

Its not really a glue more of a filler,the wire will pull free with a bit of effort like it supposed to do,the hole is drilled a bit smaller than the spring wire which is then pressed into place, don't know how mine came loose , but I would imagine the gun smith will most likely fill the hole with a polymer filler and redrill it to the proper size and press in a new spring wire.


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I'd warranty frame damage if the option was there, if it's out of spec I just about promise you get a new frame not a filled and drilled hole.
Turn around sucks, but so goes life.
Then again if I were a expert in polymers like I would expect a modern bodyman to be and knew I had a filler that would not just flake off this particular polymer then I might be inclined to fix it myself. Probably not.

And now that I've gone and looked at my M&P it'd go back for sure. Spring is a single vertical wire, only way I see it coming loose would be if it was drilled/molded in too shallow, spring out of spec short, frame soft or has a void. If it were either of the first too your repair will fail the same.
 
Speaking of an out of spec frame, I'm starting to guess that's what's wrong with my BG380. We'll see how they respond when it makes the second trip back to MAma.
 
You all make a good point. As far as people doing repairs like that on their own,its usually people with no collision ins. and out of or not covered by warranty and they cannot afford to have it repaired at a shop, now I have seen people who do all the work themselves and do a dam good job..so I really think your argument doesn't really apply here and isn't the same thing altogether, but I do get your point..ok y'all have convinced me that the warranty work should be done by them, Guess I will contact them on Monday and get things going, I just hate the wait, but it is what it is and such is life...Thank you one and all for your honest answers and advice and not letting me make possibly a mistake that I would end up regretting, this is why I love this forum and group, y'all stand your ground and push for the right thing to help one another make good decisions . This is why I asked cuz I was not sure which way to go and I knew y'all would advise me what to do, as always...again thank you


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My BG380 is going back again. We can make a contest out of it to see who gets their gun back first (and who gets their gun back properly repaired). Imagine if you fixed the issue yourself and your repair was a success. Then, sometime in the future you have another issue that requires sending it back to the mother ship. You ship it off, wait a few weeks and then receive a letter saying,

Dear Mr. 53,

Thanks for sending in your gun. We have determined that the current issue is related to an previous, unauthorized, non-factory modification of the pistol's frame which voids the warranty. We will be happy to replace the pistol at the discounted price of $X00000000.00. If you agree, please forward your credit card number and the address of your local FFL for shipment. As the new firearm will have a different serial number, it must be delivered to you through a local FFL dealer.

Regarding your pistol, we will be happy to return it to you for the sum of $x00 which represents transportation both ways and the cost of our inspection.

Thanks for your continued loyalty to Smith and Wesson.
 
My BG380 is going back again. We can make a contest out of it to see who gets their gun back first (and who gets their gun back properly repaired). Imagine if you fixed the issue yourself and your repair was a success. Then, sometime in the future you have another issue that requires sending it back to the mother ship. You ship it off, wait a few weeks and then receive a letter saying,

Dear Mr. 53,

Thanks for sending in your gun. We have determined that the current issue is related to an previous, unauthorized, non-factory modification of the pistol's frame which voids the warranty. We will be happy to replace the pistol at the discounted price of $X00000000.00. If you agree, please forward your credit card number and the address of your local FFL for shipment. As the new firearm will have a different serial number, it must be delivered to you through a local FFL dealer.

Regarding your pistol, we will be happy to return it to you for the sum of $x00 which represents transportation both ways and the cost of our inspection.

Thanks for your continued loyalty to Smith and Wesson.

Lol, your funny...but with my luck thats what would happen, and I would bet you get yours back before I do, anytime I send something for repair no matter if its a paid repair or warranty, something happens, lost paperwork, misplaced piece, vacation,strike..you name it. If can happen it happens to me..murphys law is alive and well and living in my house....


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