Tillis Supporting Stopping the Border SoE

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Trump won't be in office forever.

If every president declares a national emergency for everything they don't like it will probably lead to some things the right doesn't like.

Gun violence would likely be the first national emergency declared by a left-leaning president....
 
If the Congress does what it should then the President would not need to declare a SoE. I've seen it over the last 30 years... 'Vote for me and I'll fix it'. 'Vote for us and we'll fix it'. Nothing!

As for gun violence, be careful what you wish for.
 
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If the Congress does what it should then the President would not need to declare a SoE.

As for gun violence, be careful what you wish for.

agreed. republican controlled congress failed to get as much done as they could when they were in control.
 
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Battle vs War

Trump won't be in office forever.

If every president declares a national emergency for everything they don't like it will probably lead to some things the right doesn't like.

Gun violence would likely be the first national emergency declared by a left-leaning president....

Go look at this list of National Emergency Orders. That argument is BS. A National Emergency does not supercede the BOR. This is strictly the Globalists vs Nationalism. Are you for the USA or an open border world with Int’l rules? That is the question.
 
Declare gun violence as an emergency and this will be the event that will kick off a civil war of epic proportions. This will make the troubles in Ireland look like child's play. It will get ugly quick.

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I think everyone should voice their opinion. I’m despising that man more and more.

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I hear ya. I agree but

when a senator spends multi millions for a $175,000 elected position, it is not YOU that they work for. Sadly, voting threats are laughable to them
 
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Battle vs War

Trump won't be in office forever.

If every president declares a national emergency for everything they don't like it will probably lead to some things the right doesn't like.

Gun violence would likely be the first national emergency declared by a left-leaning president....

I see your point. But, I will reply that Obama already did it with all of his Executive Orders. And I don't think that the National Emergency could be used to destroy a Constitutional right. Although we did round up Japanese during WWII.
 
So for me, there are 2 issues here.

The first is should there be a border wall. There is a lot of question around how the country really feels about this. I like this article about the bias. https://thehill.com/opinion/immigra...der-wall-more-than-the-media-wants-to-believe

I can't really fault the congress critters for representing their constituents, but you have to separate that from voting along party lines which is what seems to be happening.

The second is whether this is an appropriate issue to declare an emergency over. I haven't even heard about what projects would be halted so that the funds could be diverted to wall building.

In general I am concerned that Trump is playing a losing game here.
 
Been having issues with Mexico and the border since Texas joined the Union in 1845. Anyone remember Poncho Villa in 1914-1916? Gen John Pershing along with a young LT George Patton were sent south to deal with him. Growing up in San Antonio I remember reports back in the 80s of trains being hit by RPGs that came over the border. Now its drugs, illegals killing American citizens and our jails are filled with them. Sent a email to Tillis stating if he goes thru with it, I'll no longer vote for him.

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Been having issues with Mexico and the border since Texas joined the Union in 1845. Anyone remember Poncho Villa in 1914-1916? Gen John Pershing along with a young LT George Patton were sent south to deal with him. Growing up in San Antonio I remember reports back in the 80s of trains being hit by RPGs that came over the border. Now its drugs, illegals killing American citizens and our jails are filled with them. Sent a email to Tillis stating if he goes thru with it, I'll no longer vote for him.

CD
 
Does he support an alternative solution to the problems?
 
agreed. republican controlled congress failed to get as much done as they could when they were in control.
I think the main problem is we've got a lot of Republicans in office that are nothing more than democrats calling themselves Republicans. Until those are brought out in the open and got rid of as Republicans we'll never as Republicans will ever be able to get anything done. Right now I think Trump needs to make a stand and have the justice department start to investigate all these democrats that have been and are still doing illegal crap.
 
It is naive to think that once a leftist president is elected, he/she will not declare state of emergency to whatever he/she deems an emergency. Leftists do not need a precedent to enact whatever serves the purpose of staying in power to keep control over the sheep.
Harry Reid changed the senate rules to simple majority for judicial confirmation and yes, Mitch McConnell expanded it to Supreme Court judicial confirmation but the point is that when the leftists wanted to load up the courts with activists judges, they did not need a precedent to achieve their goal.
 
Go look at this list of National Emergency Orders. That argument is BS. A National Emergency does not supercede the BOR.

I'm willing to make a bet right now that IF Trump's national emergency claim holds up, that other presidents will follow with their "pet projects".

Remember that there are people out there that believe the 2nd means you have to be in "the militia" (even though they can't define that easily) and can only have a musket...

Just like Trump would NEVER be able to appoint a supreme court justice in the final year of his presidency if the senate changes hands...
 
Go look at this list of National Emergency Orders. That argument is BS. A National Emergency does not supercede the BOR. This is strictly the Globalists vs Nationalism. Are you for the USA or an open border world with Int’l rules? That is the question.

Even if they build a wall, they still won't enforce the deportation laws for the ones that do get in.
 
I hear ya. I agree but

when a senator spends multi millions for a $175,000 elected position, it is not YOU that they work for. Sadly, voting threats are laughable to them


They know that in the end you have folks that will keep pulling R because "this election is just too important!"
Hell, we got a thread on here right now where a guy was found to be dealing with voter fraud, but there are still people (well, one in particular) that thinks we should send him money and our help because 'at least he aint a dem!" or some nonsense like that.
 
If millions of illegal aliens, a huge amount of them a criminal element outside of breaking this law, flooding the country with not much stopping them, transporting poverty, disease transplanting their third world culture into this country isn’t a state of the emergency I don’t know what is.

Tom Tillis is a statist. The republicans that are against this do not want trump to take credit for something they can’t do or wouldn’t do. Let’s also not forget the drug cartels have a lot of our elected officials in their pockets and a wall is bad for business.
 
They know that in the end you have folks that will keep pulling R because "this election is just too important!"
Hell, we got a thread on here right now where a guy was found to be dealing with voter fraud, but there are still people (well, one in particular) that thinks we should send him money and our help because 'at least he aint a dem!" or some nonsense like that.

Help us Obi Tom. You’re our only hope. You’ll set things right, be against gun laws, repeal Obama Care and stop the flow of illegals.
 
I guess Tillis has not seen the news videos of ILLEGAL ALIEN INVASION FORCE proudly flying the flags of foreign nations,
busting down gates and overflowing bridges to get to the US border. Sent him email too.
 
If millions of illegal aliens, a huge amount of them a criminal element outside of breaking this law, flooding the country with not much stopping them, transporting poverty, disease transplanting their third world culture into this country isn’t a state of the emergency I don’t know what is.

would’ve been more believable if he declared it an emergency his first day in office.
 
Thom has been a do-nothing mistake since day one. He's the one backing toll roads in Charlotte, and many other RINO-like agendas. This is just him showing his true colors.
 
would’ve been more believable if he declared it an emergency his first day in office.

I believe he has tried since day one to get congress to act. But both sides have been too busy stirring up their bases to do their jobs. And the republicans have only seen it as a bargaining chip to bend the dems over and get them to give up something to them as a consession.

When all else has failed he finally declared it a SOE to get the power to do what needed to be done 20 years ago.
 

When he was running for office that’s all the republicans had to say was he was the hope for Congress. Started some funny Star Wars memes about it (help is obi wan you’re our only hope).

We just had to vote for him. This election was too important.

Meanwhile he’s for gun control, never did anything to repeal Obamacare and has no intention of building a wall.
 
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If millions of illegal aliens, a huge amount of them a criminal element outside of breaking this law, flooding the country with not much stopping them, transporting poverty, disease transplanting their third world culture into this country isn’t a state of the emergency I don’t know what is.

Tom Tillis is a statist. The republicans that are against this do not want trump to take credit for something they can’t do or wouldn’t do. Let’s also not forget the drug cartels have a lot of our elected officials in their pockets and a wall is bad for business.

But heaven forbid I think he had a challenger in the primary once that was pro-life and socially conservative. The Libertarian left could not allow that. Now we have Tillis. Who sucks.
 
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I believe he has tried since day one to get congress to act. But both sides have been too busy stirring up their bases to do their jobs. And the republicans have only seen it as a bargaining chip to bend the dems over and get them to give up something to them as a consession.

When all else has failed he finally declared it a SOE to get the power to do what needed to be done 20 years ago.

I think it would’ve been more powerful if he would’ve declared an emergency day one and then used that to pressure the Republican House and Senate. At this point it just looks like sour grapes
 
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