Trump says ban on 'bump stocks' coming’

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Trump says ban on 'bump stocks' coming’
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/01/politics/trump-bump-fire-stocks/index.html

“Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump suggested Monday, one year after the Las Vegas massacre, that bump-fire stocks would be banned "over the next couple of weeks."
Trump was asked at a Rose Garden news conference about the progress of regulations to eliminate the devices, which allow semi-automatic weapons to fire at a more rapid rate.
"In order to eliminate -- terminate -- bump stocks, we have to go through procedure. We are now at the final stages of that procedure," he said.
"We are knocking out bump stocks. I have told the (National Rifle Association) -- bump stocks are gone. But to do that, you have to go to public hearings, which we have had. You have to go through all sorts of regulatory control systems."
Trump added that the process should be wrapped up in "two or three weeks."

Yeah, I know……… this is all part of that 4D chess game Trump and the NRA have been playing that the rest of us are too dumb to understand. So, when are we going to make the 2A great again?

Terry
 
He's just bloviating because it was in the news again.

I don't have any bump stocks as I always thought they were a silly way to waste expensive ammo, but I sure support others right to own, use, and want them. So my position is if they want to "ban" them, let them be the first bullet sponge, er, I mean body, um, person through the door to try to take them from people.
 
specops56 said:
Trump says ban on 'bump stocks' coming’
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/01/politics/trump-bump-fire-stocks/index.html

“Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump suggested Monday, one year after the Las Vegas massacre, that bump-fire stocks would be banned "over the next couple of weeks."
Trump was asked at a Rose Garden news conference about the progress of regulations to eliminate the devices, which allow semi-automatic weapons to fire at a more rapid rate.
"In order to eliminate -- terminate -- bump stocks, we have to go through procedure. We are now at the final stages of that procedure," he said.
"We are knocking out bump stocks. I have told the (National Rifle Association) -- bump stocks are gone. But to do that, you have to go to public hearings, which we have had. You have to go through all sorts of regulatory control systems."
Trump added that the process should be wrapped up in "two or three weeks."

Yeah, I know……… this is all part of that 4D chess game Trump and the NRA have been playing that the rest of us are too dumb to understand. So, when are we going to make the 2A great again?

Terry
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He won't get me in 2020 if he does.
 
The NRA is primarily to blame for this. They are still lying about trading bump stocks for “worse regulation” that was “imminent”. At least that’s according to the people I spoke to at the NRA-ILA.

They’ve given Trump the cover he wants and Trump has done the math and figures he can throw some of us under the bus and we’ll still vote for him in 2020.
 
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He won't get me in 2020 if he does.
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So you'll throw us to the democrats over bump stocks?

Do you trade your steak for dog poop because it wasn't cooked perfectly? Have you ever heard of the concept of choose your battles? The extreme inflexible attitude some have here over specific political issues is incomprehensible.
 
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This bump stock issue reminds me of the fable of the frog that gets put in a pot of water and doesn’t jump out because the temperature feels comfortable. But then the heat is slowly raised and the frog no longer has the energy to escape when he finally figures out he’s being cooked.
 
12151791 said:
This bump stock issue reminds me of the fable of the frog that gets put in a pot of water and doesn’t jump out because the temperature feels comfortable. But then the heat is slowly raised and the frog no longer has the energy to escape when he finally figures out he’s being cooked.
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Bump stocks suck. I own one, I've used it a couple of times. If there was ever a gun accessory that was more useless to the intent of the 2A I can't think of one. It's not an issue I would hang my principled hat on.
 
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Flashpoint said:
Bump stocks suck. I own one, I've used it a couple of times. If there was ever a gun accessory that was more useless to the intent of the 2A I can't think of one. It's not an issue I would hang my principled hat on.
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I've been think of buying one...to have something to turn in so they'll cross me off their list. :rolleyes:
 
Flashpoint said:
So you'll throw us to the democrats over bump stocks?
Do you trade your steak for dog poop because it wasn't cooked perfectly? Have you ever heard of the concept of choose your battles? The extreem inflexible attitude some have here over specific political issues is in comprehensible.
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I really like some of Trump's decisions.
I didn't vote for him due to he lacks principles, his only motivations had been his wallet and ego, and he'd been a lifelong socialist supporting demonrat.
When he started the name calling and lying about Cruz and his family, I wrote in Cruz. No it was not a throw away.
I don't know what my decision will be next election. If Austin Peterson gets the Libertarian primary, he'll get my vote.
 
Bump stocks are silly but I understand the principal. Regardless, go ahead and ban them but let’s start dismantling the NFA. A true give and take for once!
 
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How about a GatCrank? Devil is in the details. I like it better than a bump fire anyway. I would rather nothing gun related was banned. Let free men decide the proper use of such items and take responsibility for their actions if they are misused.
 
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Flashpoint said:
Bump stocks suck. I own one, I've used it a couple of times. If there was ever a gun accessory that was more useless to the intent of the 2A I can't think of one. It's not an issue I would hang my principled hat on.
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This one may not be, but if you give them an inch they will take 1000 miles. Just because you think they are silly doesnt mean they should be banned. So what are you going to do when they decide the next thing to ban is silly to must of us, but very near and dear to you? It's not the importance or relevance that matters here. Its willingly giving up ground. They will see that as a weakness and begin more attacks in our 2A rights. Watch and see....
 
Shoot all the time. Just about every weekend and sometimes several times a week.
Never seen one. Only seen in videos. Seems totally pointless to me.
Like many things that the gov has no business regulating. So if people want them they should have them. Even if I don’t understand why anyone would want one!
 
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Coltdefender1911 said:
This one may not be, but if you give them an inch they will take 1000 miles. Just because you think they are silly doesnt mean they should be banned. So what are you going to do when they decide the next thing to ban is silly to must of us, but very near and dear to you? It's not the importance or relevance that matters here. Its willingly giving up ground. They will see that as a weakness and begin more attacks in our 2A rights. Watch and see....
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I don't agree with it, but I'm not going to react in a way that does many times more irreversible harm to our cause.
 
Inspired by Reverend Niemoeller:

First, they came for the Bumpstocks. Since a Bumpstock is just a stupid gimmick, I didn’t fight for them.

Then, they came for the high capacity magazines. Since no one needs 30 rounds to hunt with, I didn’t fight for them.

Then, they came for the semi-automatic assault rifles. Since those are made only to kill people, I didn’t fight for them.

Then, they came for the high powered, scoped sniper rifles. Since you only need a shotgun to hunt and shoot sporting clays, I didn’t fight for them.

Then, they came for all the other guns. Since they were now illegal and I’m a law abiding citizen, I didn’t fight for them.

Then, they came for my children! Since I didn’t care about Bumpstocks, I had nothing left to fight with.

Terry
 
I'd trade a well-defined bump stock ban for national CC reciprocity and taking suppressors off NFA. But it seems like we're getting the BS ban via the Administrative branch, without anything in return.
 
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No.
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I agree with you on the usual "compromise" that takes away and doesn't give back anything. But if I can get something that will be used by millions and millions of people every day, in exchange for something that's far less valuable, I think that's a pretty good trade.
 
MostWanted said:
I agree with you on the usual "compromise" that takes away and doesn't give back anything. But if I can get something that will be used by millions and millions of people every day, in exchange for something that's far less valuable, I think that's a pretty good trade.
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My Rights are not up for barter. You are arguing that you will trade a portion of your natural and unalienable Rights for permission to freely exercise another portion of your natural and unalienable Rights.

You're not "getting" anything that is not already yours.

You just want the State to tell you it's ok.

That is not Liberty.
 
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Y'all don't understand, Trump is doing this because all the dems hate him so bad they will make bump stocks mandatory.....reverse psychology.

DemocRATS and media hate this man so much it's like arguing with a small child, reverse psychology!!!!!
 
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I'd trade a well-defined bump stock ban for national CC reciprocity and taking suppressors off NFA. But it seems like we're getting the BS ban via the Administrative branch, without anything in return.
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Playing "let's make a deal" with our rights is exactly why we've been losing them.

Terry
 
MostWanted said:
I agree with you on the usual "compromise" that takes away and doesn't give back anything. But if I can get something that will be used by millions and millions of people every day, in exchange for something that's far less valuable, I think that's a pretty good trade.
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Every time we "compromise" the enemy gains something they wanted and we lose something we already had and gain nothing we didn't.

Terry
 
specops56 said:
Every time we "compromise" the enemy gains something they wanted and we lose something we already had and gain nothing we didn't.
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About the only "compromise" I would be willing to make is to have a tiered form of shall issue carry permit that eliminates the "sensitive places" restriction on things like schools. While I don't believe there should be carry permits, I do recognize that certain locations have unique challenges related to population density and may have other logistical issues especially in an emergency. Any training would need to focus on operating within those areas and must not be priced to put it out of reach.

The current system of allowing cops to carry in places like schools with it being off limits for us subjects doesn't make practical sense from the standpoint that most who carry regularly have more practice and training than most cops (who aren't necessarily "gun people").
 
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