Tub’o’Taurus - Little venting inside..

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Brands aside, this ain’t cool…

I finally got my SO comfortable carrying her pistol around with her instead of leaving it at her apartment, small win, the next step is getting her more proficient with it.

We ended up taking an unexpected trip to the range with her family this past weekend, so I wanted her to run some ammo through her Taurus G2C and see what needed to be worked on.

Pop. Pop. Pop.

“It broke”

Slide is locked back on a partial mag… maybe it was the grip? Send the slide home and have her shoot it again. Grip is right, slide locks back. Maybe the mag is in a bind? *removes mag, fires one round*

Slide locks back.

The dang paper clip thin spring that holds the slide stop down broke, and with the recoil was going up and engaging. This gun does not have 100rds on it. Called Taurus to no avail, they don’t have the part currently but I can send it in and wait till they do, but no lead time on that. Somebody on the forum have a couple?

I’m thinking after this, she is going to get a 365 for her birthday. I get stuff happens but that could have been a disaster if she actually had to use it.

So here it sits and will continue to sit till I find the part I need.

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Damn … I remember the G2C was one of Taurus‘s fastest sellers. Gotta wonder how many have been sent back and that’s the reason they are out of spares.
 
So Taurus is manufacturing guns every day but have zero spares for a repair? Does the new version not have that tension spring? I believe I would call again to see if I could get a different answer.
 
hp468 said:
Buy that girl the 365 in hickory!!!! If I was closer it be in the safe already.
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Messaged him last night, it’s pending. 😕 She/John and I are going to the mountains this weekend, gonna let her try a few out and see what she prefers.

BlackGun said:
So Taurus is manufacturing guns every day but have zero spares for a repair? Does the new version not have that tension spring? I believe I would call again to see if I could get a different answer.
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I asked if there was an updated part or a lead time on when they would be available, she said she didn’t see any notes about an update and wasn’t sure, the normal turnaround time is a month. I can’t imagine it takes that much effort to have a machine make 10,000 of those springs in a day, but maybe they aren’t made here and are on a boat somewhere?
 
I would just send it in. My bet is they will take care of you as quickly as possible. I traded into a .22 mag revolver that would sometimes light strike. Sent it back to Taurus and had it turned around and back in my hands in less than 2 weeks. Runs fine now.
 
CarolinaColtCollector said:
Messaged him last night, it’s pending. [emoji53] She/John and I are going to the mountains this weekend, gonna let her try a few out and see what she prefers.



I asked if there was an updated part or a lead time on when they would be available, she said she didn’t see any notes about an update and wasn’t sure, the normal turnaround time is a month. I can’t imagine it takes that much effort to have a machine make 10,000 of those springs in a day, but maybe they aren’t made here and are on a boat somewhere?
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I sent my new Raging Judge Magnum into taurus for repair. Cylinder was locked up. It was "gone" for 5 months. Good luck!

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jodyisaacs said:
I sent my new Raging Judge Magnum into taurus for repair. Cylinder was locked up. It was "gone" for 5 months. Good luck!

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Ya know, it’s funny you bring that up. My neighbor is the reason those exist. Apparently it was not in the literature that even though a 454 casull will fit in a regular judge, you shouldn’t fire it.

I think I still have the slow mo video on my phone of the result.
 
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CarolinaColtCollector said:
Ya know, it’s funny you bring that up. My neighbor is the reason those exist. Apparently it was not in the literature that even though a 454 casull will fit in a regular judge, you shouldn’t fire it.

I think I still have the slow mo video on my phone of the result.
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Wow... hope everyone made it out intact. The morbid curiosity side of me would love to see the vid.

...and THAT, folks, it's why lawyers run amok with labeling and literature on guns. Same reason your hair dryer or toaster says "Do not use in the shower."... because someone probably tried it.

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I know a gunsmith who has been awaiting a replacement gun from Taurus for almost a year now,, AND another guy who has over 6 months doing the same thing. Parts, replacements etc,,, not a guarantee from them currently. Same gunsmith handles our local FoNRA guns,, and several of the Taurus guns he's received for the NRA have had to go back,, and they were NIB. Doesn't say much for their QC.
 
Flashpoint said:
I wouldn't ding Taurus specifically. The G2 series has a great reputation. They aren't infallible and no firearm is.
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Tell that to Hi Point. 🤪
 
I have had good and bad experiences with Taurus customer service. That is, if you can even get ahold of them. Get ready to spend an hour on hold.

I needed a barrel replaced and it went great. They didn't ask for pictures or anything. Just sent one to me.

My dad lost a small spring one time and they flat out refused to do anything unless he sent it to them. Well, after he sent it to them he got a call and they said "well the real reason we wanted you to send this in is because it has a recall and you can't have it back" they did replace it for him with a newer model but he was really mad that they weren't upfront about it. His new replacement wasn't even in production yet and he didn't receive it for many months. What he received he didn't like as much as what he had lost. He literally gave it away and never looked back.

They make a mean plinker. I love the tx22 for range time. I don't think I would want to depend on one for much more then a varmint.
 
Flashpoint said:
I wouldn't ding Taurus specifically.
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I would.

After working at a somewhat high volume gun shop for 5 years I'll say it's true that we had to send back (or help send back) guns from pretty much every manufacturer still going today.

However, the sheer volume of Taurus problems was almost unfathomable.

Not speaking to ratios or percentages here at all. Probably a lot of Taurus guns out there.

I'm not simply a "Taurus basher" though.

As I sit here and type this the loaded revolver about a foot away from my keyboard is a Taurus.

I trust my life with it.

It was made in 1988.

On the other hand I picked up a brand new one, very similar model, a 4 inch barrel 6 shot .357 Magnum when they went on sale through one of our distributors. After my employee discount it was sub $300. This was about 3 years ago. When rounds were placed in the cylinder, the cylinder would not close unless you REALLY forced it. Tried various brands and weights and shapes. If I forced the cylinder to close it was shaving brass off the rear of the casing and even scratching the primers.

I had a Taurus 92 that I trusted more than my Beretta M-9 but I don't really feel like that is saying a lot. But still, my Taurus was more reliable than the Beretta. That Taurus was a very early 90s gun.

I have a lot of crazy stories I could tell about Taurus.

But, by the time I left the shop a little over a year and a half ago, the amount of BRAND NEW S&W revolvers we were having trouble with was somewhat surprising as well. Not as many as Taurus, but WAY more than folks would imagine.

So yeah, I'll ding Taurus specifically. There are some fantastic ones out there that I would bet my life on. But there are many more that I would not.


Ultimately I hate to hear about the problem the OP is having because even amongst us workers at the shop, @Flashpoint is correct, the G2 did have a good reputation. I don't recall one of those ever coming back. I liked to recommend it to folks who I knew needed an affordable but reliable handgun for protection especially when I thought they were the type of folks who would not likely put hundreds of rounds (nevertheless thousands) through them.



At the shop Taurus was far and away the "major" brand we had trouble with. Revolvers and semi-auto handguns.

S&W we were starting to have a lot of problems with their revolvers. Very few semis though.

Ruger we saw a steady but not large amount of problems with some of their semis (especially at release) and it wasn't unusual to get a Ruger American bolt action rifle (centerfire only) that wouldn't chamber a single round.

The first few years I was there we never had problems with the SCCY pistols but by the time I left they were coming back at somewhat high rate.

Heritage Arms revolver problems were not unusual.

Kel-Tec, well, that is a complicated discussion.

Despite all the jokes about Sig and their release recall issues, we very rarely had problems out of them, H&K, or Glock. They all did send out a lemon every once in a while, but it was rare for those 3.

Not even gonna talk about Remington. They were our Taurus of the long gun world. Holy crap. Same deal though. Lots of good ones out there. But a lot of bad ones too. And just like Taurus, I own many Remington's that I would, and do bet my life on.

We had a lot of Browning bolt action rifles come back, but that was mostly stock related issues. They had a line with synthetic stocks that should have been recalled or replacement stocks sent out. But it wasn't a safety issue. Just a materials screw-up on their end.

Most of the "off-brand" pump and semi-auto shotguns (other than the Turkish made ones) from the past 8-10 years had about a 50% chance of coming back if fired more than a couple hundred times.

EVERY semi-auto shotgun made to look like an AR-15 was apparently subject to being mostly hot garbage based on the rate of customers who came back with problems. It was crazy. It probably wasn't this high but dang if it didn't feel like an easy 80%.


Anyway, I'm rambling.

Taurus doesn't always suck, but it often does. Buyer beware. But that applies to a lot of brands and models now.
 
thrillhill said:
I would.

After working at a somewhat high volume gun shop for 5 years I'll say it's true that we had to send back (or help send back) guns from pretty much every manufacturer still going today.

However, the sheer volume of Taurus problems was almost unfathomable.

Not speaking to ratios or percentages here at all. Probably a lot of Taurus guns out there.

I'm not simply a "Taurus basher" though.

As I sit here and type this the loaded revolver about a foot away from my keyboard is a Taurus.

I trust my life with it.

It was made in 1988.

On the other hand I picked up a brand new one, very similar model, a 4 inch barrel 6 shot .357 Magnum when they went on sale through one of our distributors. After my employee discount it was sub $300. This was about 3 years ago. When rounds were placed in the cylinder, the cylinder would not close unless you REALLY forced it. Tried various brands and weights and shapes. If I forced the cylinder to close it was shaving brass off the rear of the casing and even scratching the primers.

I had a Taurus 92 that I trusted more than my Beretta M-9 but I don't really feel like that is saying a lot. But still, my Taurus was more reliable than the Beretta. That Taurus was a very early 90s gun.

I have a lot of crazy stories I could tell about Taurus.

But, by the time I left the shop a little over a year and a half ago, the amount of BRAND NEW S&W revolvers we were having trouble with was somewhat surprising as well. Not as many as Taurus, but WAY more than folks would imagine.

So yeah, I'll ding Taurus specifically. There are some fantastic ones out there that I would bet my life on. But there are many more that I would not.


Ultimately I hate to hear about the problem the OP is having because even amongst us workers at the shop, @Flashpoint is correct, the G2 did have a good reputation. I don't recall one of those ever coming back. I liked to recommend it to folks who I knew needed an affordable but reliable handgun for protection especially when I thought they were the type of folks who would not likely put hundreds of rounds (nevertheless thousands) through them.



At the shop Taurus was far and away the "major" brand we had trouble with. Revolvers and semi-auto handguns.

S&W we were starting to have a lot of problems with their revolvers. Very few semis though.

Ruger we saw a steady but not large amount of problems with some of their semis (especially at release) and it wasn't unusual to get a Ruger American bolt action rifle (centerfire only) that wouldn't chamber a single round.

The first few years I was there we never had problems with the SCCY pistols but by the time I left they were coming back at somewhat high rate.

Heritage Arms revolver problems were not unusual.

Kel-Tec, well, that is a complicated discussion.

Despite all the jokes about Sig and their release recall issues, we very rarely had problems out of them, H&K, or Glock. They all did send out a lemon every once in a while, but it was rare for those 3.

Not even gonna talk about Remington. They were our Taurus of the long gun world. Holy crap. Same deal though. Lots of good ones out there. But a lot of bad ones too. And just like Taurus, I own many Remington's that I would, and do bet my life on.

We had a lot of Browning bolt action rifles come back, but that was mostly stock related issues. They had a line with synthetic stocks that should have been recalled or replacement stocks sent out. But it wasn't a safety issue. Just a materials screw-up on their end.

Most of the "off-brand" pump and semi-auto shotguns (other than the Turkish made ones) from the past 8-10 years had about a 50% chance of coming back if fired more than a couple hundred times.

EVERY semi-auto shotgun made to look like an AR-15 was apparently subject to being mostly hot garbage based on the rate of customers who came back with problems. It was crazy. It probably wasn't this high but dang if it didn't feel like an easy 80%.


Anyway, I'm rambling.

Taurus doesn't always suck, but it often does. Buyer beware. But that applies to a lot of brands and models now.
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I’m a S&W guy from way wat back, but I’ve found the newer Taurus models to be very good guns. My son has a G2C with at least 500 rounds fired with not one hitch. A mixture of brass and steel case, some factory but most my reloads. FMJ, coated and raw lead. It eats them all. I also sent a 22 mag revolver back that 2 different people had played with different springs but didn’t fire consistently. I told customer service it had been worked on and they still fixed under warranty and the gun was gone only 11 days. I just acquired a new Taurus GX4 and it gives my Sig P365 a run for its money with a much better Trigger. I would trust my life with a Taurus as quick as I would any other brand after a good testing that I would do with any brand. Jim Kelly, one of the most respected gunsmiths in the country said he thinks the newer Taurus revolvers are built every bit as good as the new S&W’s. Pretty bold statement but it came from an expert I’d there ever was one.
 
Etruett said:
Jim Kelly, one of the most respected gunsmiths in the country said he thinks the newer Taurus revolvers are built every bit as good as the new S&W’s. Pretty bold statement but it came from an expert I’d there ever was one.
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I don't disagree with that statement at all. But it ain't because Taurus revolvers got better. It's because Smith revolvers got worse.
 
thrillhill said:
I would.

After working at a somewhat high volume gun shop for 5 years I'll say it's true that we had to send back (or help send back) guns from pretty much every manufacturer still going today.

However, the sheer volume of Taurus problems was almost unfathomable.

Not speaking to ratios or percentages here at all. Probably a lot of Taurus guns out there.

I'm not simply a "Taurus basher" though.

As I sit here and type this the loaded revolver about a foot away from my keyboard is a Taurus.

I trust my life with it.

It was made in 1988.

On the other hand I picked up a brand new one, very similar model, a 4 inch barrel 6 shot .357 Magnum when they went on sale through one of our distributors. After my employee discount it was sub $300. This was about 3 years ago. When rounds were placed in the cylinder, the cylinder would not close unless you REALLY forced it. Tried various brands and weights and shapes. If I forced the cylinder to close it was shaving brass off the rear of the casing and even scratching the primers.

I had a Taurus 92 that I trusted more than my Beretta M-9 but I don't really feel like that is saying a lot. But still, my Taurus was more reliable than the Beretta. That Taurus was a very early 90s gun.

I have a lot of crazy stories I could tell about Taurus.

But, by the time I left the shop a little over a year and a half ago, the amount of BRAND NEW S&W revolvers we were having trouble with was somewhat surprising as well. Not as many as Taurus, but WAY more than folks would imagine.

So yeah, I'll ding Taurus specifically. There are some fantastic ones out there that I would bet my life on. But there are many more that I would not.


Ultimately I hate to hear about the problem the OP is having because even amongst us workers at the shop, @Flashpoint is correct, the G2 did have a good reputation. I don't recall one of those ever coming back. I liked to recommend it to folks who I knew needed an affordable but reliable handgun for protection especially when I thought they were the type of folks who would not likely put hundreds of rounds (nevertheless thousands) through them.



At the shop Taurus was far and away the "major" brand we had trouble with. Revolvers and semi-auto handguns.

S&W we were starting to have a lot of problems with their revolvers. Very few semis though.

Ruger we saw a steady but not large amount of problems with some of their semis (especially at release) and it wasn't unusual to get a Ruger American bolt action rifle (centerfire only) that wouldn't chamber a single round.

The first few years I was there we never had problems with the SCCY pistols but by the time I left they were coming back at somewhat high rate.

Heritage Arms revolver problems were not unusual.

Kel-Tec, well, that is a complicated discussion.

Despite all the jokes about Sig and their release recall issues, we very rarely had problems out of them, H&K, or Glock. They all did send out a lemon every once in a while, but it was rare for those 3.

Not even gonna talk about Remington. They were our Taurus of the long gun world. Holy crap. Same deal though. Lots of good ones out there. But a lot of bad ones too. And just like Taurus, I own many Remington's that I would, and do bet my life on.

We had a lot of Browning bolt action rifles come back, but that was mostly stock related issues. They had a line with synthetic stocks that should have been recalled or replacement stocks sent out. But it wasn't a safety issue. Just a materials screw-up on their end.

Most of the "off-brand" pump and semi-auto shotguns (other than the Turkish made ones) from the past 8-10 years had about a 50% chance of coming back if fired more than a couple hundred times.

EVERY semi-auto shotgun made to look like an AR-15 was apparently subject to being mostly hot garbage based on the rate of customers who came back with problems. It was crazy. It probably wasn't this high but dang if it didn't feel like an easy 80%.


Anyway, I'm rambling.

Taurus doesn't always suck, but it often does. Buyer beware. But that applies to a lot of brands and models now.
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Modern Remington makes Taurus look good...
 
Infamous1 said:
I would just send it in. My bet is they will take care of you as quickly as possible. …
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ESSSSSSSSSSpecially if you include a cover letter consisting of your first post this thread, pretty much word-for-word. Cc the CEO after your signature (and really send the new guy a copy).
 
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thrillhill said:
I would.

After working at a somewhat high volume gun shop for 5 years I'll say it's true that we had to send back (or help send back) guns from pretty much every manufacturer still going today.

However, the sheer volume of Taurus problems was almost unfathomable.

Not speaking to ratios or percentages here at all. Probably a lot of Taurus guns out there.

I'm not simply a "Taurus basher" though.

As I sit here and type this the loaded revolver about a foot away from my keyboard is a Taurus.

I trust my life with it.

It was made in 1988.

On the other hand I picked up a brand new one, very similar model, a 4 inch barrel 6 shot .357 Magnum when they went on sale through one of our distributors. After my employee discount it was sub $300. This was about 3 years ago. When rounds were placed in the cylinder, the cylinder would not close unless you REALLY forced it. Tried various brands and weights and shapes. If I forced the cylinder to close it was shaving brass off the rear of the casing and even scratching the primers.

I had a Taurus 92 that I trusted more than my Beretta M-9 but I don't really feel like that is saying a lot. But still, my Taurus was more reliable than the Beretta. That Taurus was a very early 90s gun.

I have a lot of crazy stories I could tell about Taurus.

But, by the time I left the shop a little over a year and a half ago, the amount of BRAND NEW S&W revolvers we were having trouble with was somewhat surprising as well. Not as many as Taurus, but WAY more than folks would imagine.

So yeah, I'll ding Taurus specifically. There are some fantastic ones out there that I would bet my life on. But there are many more that I would not.


Ultimately I hate to hear about the problem the OP is having because even amongst us workers at the shop, @Flashpoint is correct, the G2 did have a good reputation. I don't recall one of those ever coming back. I liked to recommend it to folks who I knew needed an affordable but reliable handgun for protection especially when I thought they were the type of folks who would not likely put hundreds of rounds (nevertheless thousands) through them.



At the shop Taurus was far and away the "major" brand we had trouble with. Revolvers and semi-auto handguns.

S&W we were starting to have a lot of problems with their revolvers. Very few semis though.

Ruger we saw a steady but not large amount of problems with some of their semis (especially at release) and it wasn't unusual to get a Ruger American bolt action rifle (centerfire only) that wouldn't chamber a single round.

The first few years I was there we never had problems with the SCCY pistols but by the time I left they were coming back at somewhat high rate.

Heritage Arms revolver problems were not unusual.

Kel-Tec, well, that is a complicated discussion.

Despite all the jokes about Sig and their release recall issues, we very rarely had problems out of them, H&K, or Glock. They all did send out a lemon every once in a while, but it was rare for those 3.

Not even gonna talk about Remington. They were our Taurus of the long gun world. Holy crap. Same deal though. Lots of good ones out there. But a lot of bad ones too. And just like Taurus, I own many Remington's that I would, and do bet my life on.

We had a lot of Browning bolt action rifles come back, but that was mostly stock related issues. They had a line with synthetic stocks that should have been recalled or replacement stocks sent out. But it wasn't a safety issue. Just a materials screw-up on their end.

Most of the "off-brand" pump and semi-auto shotguns (other than the Turkish made ones) from the past 8-10 years had about a 50% chance of coming back if fired more than a couple hundred times.

EVERY semi-auto shotgun made to look like an AR-15 was apparently subject to being mostly hot garbage based on the rate of customers who came back with problems. It was crazy. It probably wasn't this high but dang if it didn't feel like an easy 80%.


Anyway, I'm rambling.

Taurus doesn't always suck, but it often does. Buyer beware. But that applies to a lot of brands and models now.
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LOL Bill, when you get going Katie bar the door! I am not a revolver guy but I have been hearing here about some of the issues with more recent Taurus revolvers. Just to be clear, my comment was intended to not ding Taurus for the G2 malfunction since that firearm does not deserve it. Wasn't saying you shouldn't ding Taurus when and where appropriate. Carry on..
 
As far as Taurus customer service goes, my last personal interaction was pretty satisfying.

More satisfying than some of my previous experiences which were years ago and probably not pertinent to how they are operating now.

It was about 4 months ago.

I bought a used Model 85 Ultra-Lite. It was pretty rough but the price was right.

The first time I took it out to shoot I fired a full cylinder of .38 Special with no problem. When I opened the cylinder to eject the rounds a piece fell out. I don't know what you call it but it was a small round piece that looked like it was pressed into the rear of the frame on the inside. It had a hole in the middle where the firing pin came through it to strike the primer.

I filled out the warranty stuff online and taped the piece to the grips and sent it back. About 4 weeks later I got a call from a lady working there who told me it could not be fixed, but they would send me a brand new gun if that was acceptable. It wasn't gonna be the same exact model so she had to check with me to see if that was okay.

About 3 weeks after that my FFL called and said I needed to come pick up my new Taurus 856 Ultra-Lite.

I was happy with that outcome. I got a good deal on a revolver in rough shape. I was not the first owner but the warranty covered it anyway. And it was replaced with a brand new gun. Even after the FFL transfer fee I made out really good.
 
About 30 years ago I bought a model 85 Taurus 38 special blues steel revolver . It was made in Brazil on old S&W machinery. That gun was awesome but DPD did not and would not approve it for off duty or backup carry. After about 700 to 1000 rounds the cylinder started to get loose and started shaving lead because it was getting out of time. . Ordered a new hand and fixed the problem temporarily. I sold it and bought a mod 60 Smith.. Then several years ago I bought a Taurus 1911. Only shot it maybe 200 rounds and decided that I wanted something else so I went to see Clay at Fuguay gun and Gold to trade it on another gun. His reply to me was "get that P.O.S out of my store. Taurus pistols are pieces of 💩and I won't sell them in my store". I Sold it ASAP and never bought another Taurus product . Never will again.
 
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