Watching the Kenosha vid convinced me. I need a sling......

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I am in need of advice for what you use for a single point for an AK as well as an AR. What do you have? Why do you like it? What should I pay attention to? What should I avoid? Looking for advice on mounting hardware as well as sling itself.

Any and all advice is appreciated.
 
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Just my opinion:
I’d look at an adjustable 2-point for a carbine or rifle. I think it is more flexible and useful, and can be used as a nice shooting aid.
It’s a lot of weight to dangle on a single point.
Look at the Vickers by BlueForceGear. Also Magpul has some options, including ones that easily convert to a single point, too.


I would only go single point on something like a SMG or small PCC, personally.
They can dangle between legs, so wear a cup, lol.

Lovell has a pretty nice little intro to slings.

 
tanstaafl72555 said:
I am a total ignoramus, but seems to me that it is easier just having one attachment point.... less to go wrong.

Again, I am a total know nothing here. Don't be shy about educating me. I know zero
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Ok. So, single points are great if you are just standing there. They tend to hold the weapon from the back, and it dangles in front of you.
I am only 5’6” so a lot of longer weapons will hit the ground or close to it if I take a knee.
For that reason, I prefer a two point sling that holds the weapon more evenly across my chest, but has built in flex/bungee so I can immediately pull the weapon up to get a sight picture if needed.
 
NKD said:
Just my opinion:
I’d look at an adjustable 2-point for a carbine or rifle. I think it is more flexible and useful, and can be used as a nice shooting aid.
It’s a lot of weight to dangle on a single point.
Look at the Vickers by BlueForceGear. Also Magpul has some options, including ones that easily convert to a single point, too.


I would only go single point on something like a SMG or small PCC, personally.
They can dangle between legs, so wear a cup, lol.

Lovell has a pretty nice little intro to slings.

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THANK YOU. This is PRECISELY the kind of thing I am looking for.
 
I like the Vickers Blue Force Gear. As stated above it’s two point. I have both padded and unpadded versions. Slightly easier to stowe the unpadded IMO.
 
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I had the same thought, Tanstaa...

I wonder if'n that kid knew the AR is harder to take from him with that sling. I prefer an adjustable 2 point sling, but I never thought much about that situation.
 
3rd for the blue force gear. I've got the padded version and it's been great on plenty of long predator hunts. It's quick and simple to adjust. I've got it in magpul qd mounts, which lock up real tight. Just be careful buying those from Amazon, lots of people get shipped knock off/fake versions.
 
Padded sling if you are going to be carrying for a long time without other gear on (like a vest/plate carrier etc)

I also prefer two point slings. I’m right handed and sling the rifle at the low ready with the sling over my right shoulder and back up at my left hip. I attach the sling around the end of the stock on the right side with enough slack so I can transition from right to left shoulder depending on available cover or I can dump the rifle to the left (or shift it totally behind me if I have to go hands on) so it’s out of the way to access my secondary (pistol on right hip)
 
AK: Vicker's Blue Force Gear
AR: Ferro Concepts Slingster

Single-point is a huge hassle IMO, and nothing beats a quick-tab double. Keep it tight during patrol, and run your hand across the tab as you receive the front handguard. Simple, fast.
 
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fieldgrade said:
I like the Vickers Blue Force Gear. As stated above it’s two point. I have both padded and unpadded versions. Slightly easier to stowe the unpadded IMO.
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df0101 said:
Another vote for Blue Force Vicker. I have the padded version.
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The Vickers is a great rig. I have a padded and unpadded version. I also have one of the Kyle Lamb designed VTAC which is also very nice. I would say both are excellent and the difference comes down to preference not really one being better than the other.

For example one thing I like about the VTAC is something other people hate. I like the fact that that part that you grab to adjust the sling is a cord which has a different tactile feel than the rest of the sling. There is no mistaking what you are grabbing when you go to tighten it up.
 
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Ok as another sling noob what do I need other than the sling. Thinking about one for an AR pistol. My brace has a QD point as does my handguard. Do slings usually come with the attachment hardware or do you purchase it separately? I'm liking the Blue Force after watching Lovell's video.
 
JohnnyTyler said:
Ok as another sling noob what do I need other than the sling. Thinking about one for an AR pistol. My brace has a QD point as does my handguard. Do slings usually come with the attachment hardware or do you purchase it separately? I'm liking the Blue Force after watching Lovell's video.
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“Depends” is the only real answer go that question. Some clip in, some QD in, some tie in. Some allow you to connect short pieces with any of those thread styles. You’ll need to figure out what type of connection you want and where you want it on the firearm (this is the stage I’m currently in).
 
JohnnyTyler said:
Ok as another sling noob what do I need other than the sling. Thinking about one for an AR pistol. My brace has a QD point as does my handguard. Do slings usually come with the attachment hardware or do you purchase it separately? I'm liking the Blue Force after watching Lovell's video.
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With the Vickers you choose your attachment options. https://www.blueforcegear.com/slings/sling-hardware

https://www.blueforcegear.com/padded-vickers-sling.

For AR15s I use Push Button QD Sling Swivels. Just make sure you are buying them from a known vendor. Lots of fakes out there and they will break when used hard. I would not trust them.

On other guns like a CZ scorprion or an AK I use the ULoops.
 
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tanstaafl72555 said:
I am in need of advice for what you use for a single point for an AK as well as an AR. What do you have? Why do you like it? What should I pay attention to? What should I avoid? Looking for advice on mounting hardware as well as sling itself.

Any and all advice is appreciated.
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JohnnyTyler said:
Ok as another sling noob what do I need other than the sling. Thinking about one for an AR pistol. My brace has a QD point as does my handguard. Do slings usually come with the attachment hardware or do you purchase it separately? I'm liking the Blue Force after watching Lovell's video.
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FWIW:
Blue Force (padded) is my first choice. VTAC is my backup choice for lighter weapons.

If you have MLok you can put a QD point wherever you want up front. Most stocks/braces are rigged for attachment.

I'm not personally a big fan of single point slings (but maybe a hybrid, I don't know) or of three point slings.
 
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Another point I would make is I prefer not to have the attachments sewn into the sling that way if I want to use it on multiple guns I can use different attachment points. If you know it is only going to be used on one gun then you can have them sewn in and you don't need a triglide.
 
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Rittenhouse proved the sling is a very useful tool ... it’s been said and repeated here ... the sling is a holster for a carbine.

Another 2 point vote here for HD/SD fighting carbine. Buy quality sling like a Vickers, VTAC, etc ... just remember quality is important in that cheaper sewn, heavier duty hardware (cheap plastic vs heavy polymer/metal buckles and connectors), ease of use and adjustments.

Also make sure the way it attaches to your firearm is solid ... the connection point on the firearm. QD points locations are another thing to consider for ease of use and comfort ... think of it like finding that just right holster except choices can be tuned and tweaked a little more here.
 
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tanstaafl72555 said:
I am in need of advice for what you use for a single point for an AK as well as an AR. What do you have? Why do you like it? What should I pay attention to? What should I avoid? Looking for advice on mounting hardware as well as sling itself.

Any and all advice is appreciated.
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Ditto, my "truck gun" 8" AR pistol is currently slingless.
 
One thing about two point slings, I tend to swim out of them when shooting competitions and just have it around my neck. In Kyle’s situation, his weapon could have been taken away if it was just around his neck. All I am saying is know your gear, how to use it, it’s limitations, and adjust your techniques to use it effectively.
 
Also was thinking the same thing from the video. Looking at slings now. Definitely want a 2 point for the carbine. Would a single point work better for a pistol? It would seem a single point would be less restrictive for a pistol. I dunno. Never had a sling for pistol before. With our diverse knowledge base here maybe some one knows?
 
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NKD said:
Just my opinion:
I’d look at an adjustable 2-point for a carbine or rifle. I think it is more flexible and useful, and can be used as a nice shooting aid.
It’s a lot of weight to dangle on a single point.
Look at the Vickers by BlueForceGear. Also Magpul has some options, including ones that easily convert to a single point, too.


I would only go single point on something like a SMG or small PCC, personally.
They can dangle between legs, so wear a cup, lol.

Lovell has a pretty nice little intro to slings.

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I am a sling noob too but I saw this video and picked up a padded vickers 2-point a few months back and love it.
 
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I currently am using a Magpul ms4 sling. It has the option of using it as a two point sling with push button qd attachments and as a single point with qd.
 
Coltdefender1911 said:
Also was thinking the same thing from the video. Looking at slings now. Definitely want a 2 point for the carbine. Would a single point work better for a pistol? It would seem a single point would be less restrictive for a pistol. I dunno. Never had a sling for pistol before. With our diverse knowledge base here maybe some one knows?
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With a single point I found regardless whether it was carrying a pistol or carbine, I ALWAYS had to be touching the firearm to maintain good control while simply walking. It's gonna bounce. Two point for me regardless the weapon.
 
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Any opinions regarding the type of attachments? I have a Vickers padded sling with the sewn in QD attachments and an Arisaka QD Mount on my rails but have never used it before (although it will be on my rifle next time I go to the range).

Can one yank a QD swivel out with some force? Is it better to have the rear of the sling mounted through the buttstock vs a QD? QD vs Hooks vs Loops?

Appreciate any experiences y'all might have or know of.
 
I’m using the BFG and a magpul which is convertible between 1/2 point. I like them both but want to try one of the Haley strategic slings. They’re pricey but the material is soft to the touch compared to all the others I’ve seen. Not to sound like a pansy but I think spending a little more for a little extra comfort is worth it if you’re going to carry your gun for extended periods. I think it’s also padded and convertible.

I didn’t know T. rex arms made a sling but I like their stance on the 2a and other issues and would order from them as well. I’ve ordered a few things from them here lately and the shipping was quick. Everything has been good quality as well.


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I haven’t had any issues using qd sockets to attach the sling to my rifle. I do think you should make sure wherever you attach the qd to your rail the attachment point needs to be steel and not built into the rail if the rail is aluminum. I had a name brand rail with a built in qd spot get loose after using it for a while. It never popped out but was not as tight as it was when it was new.
 
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NKD said:
Just my opinion:
I’d look at an adjustable 2-point for a carbine or rifle. I think it is more flexible and useful, and can be used as a nice shooting aid.
It’s a lot of weight to dangle on a single point.
Look at the Vickers by BlueForceGear. Also Magpul has some options, including ones that easily convert to a single point, too.


I would only go single point on something like a SMG or small PCC, personally.
They can dangle between legs, so wear a cup, lol.

Lovell has a pretty nice little intro to slings.

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OP, I second 2 point sling. and I also, with all of the power and authority vested in me by absolutely no one, agree that the posted video is great info on summarizing features/concepts to evaluate.
 
For myself, the Kenosha event has made me realize my belt rig, which is currently set up for the range and hunting (did you know R mag holster is also a perfect iPhone 8 holder?)...

The biggest vulnerability point on my belt, is the presence of a kydex holstered knife. can anyone say "please stab me in my kidney and face?"....the nuance of purpose-designed gear becomes increasingly clear as you start imagining yourself in various situations. Fortunately the easy fix here for me is just to remove knife if ever wearing the belt for such a purpose.
 
Side tirade to OP: I feel for you on choosing a sling...its absurd that it even has the possibility of being an overwhelming decision..

I lived behind enemy lines for while and AR style guns were at some point legally unobtainable. Having not been into building from 80% then, I was naturally out of the AR market for about 5 years from 2012-2017. Then the unclassifiable "other" came out. AWESOME. Lets go to cabelas and get a sling....

uhhhhh do I need a snap hook, D-ring rail mount or a QD mount sling? single, double or triple point sling? quick adjust non-quick adjust, detachable, gen1, 2 or 3 of the asme product line...does mine need to be picatinny, mlok, keymod,...do I need an adapter to get one or another to work with the rail I have....

Holy CRAP, I was gone for 5 years and came back to an AR market so oversaturated with options I was like deer in the headlights. it was worse than my childhood power ranger toys or a baby doll. all I wanted was a damn sling lol. that simple act took 3 hours of internet rabbit hole investigating. I was like 28 years old and already "remembering the days" when buying a sling meant 1 point or 2 point and which color do you prefer....geez. /tirade
 
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NCFubar said:
That is a very interesting sling design ... padded but not huge one ... slick nylon adjustment system ...Tennessee company ...$55 before attachment options is pretty good pricing. That one needs some consideration.
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Yes, it is a very nice design at an excellent price point. I haven't received my sling yet as they just launched this week on Wed. TRex is a unique company and for those unfamilar with them take some time and look into who they are and what they stand for.

I recently upgraded to the Gucci and mostly unobtanium sling from Ferro Concepts aka the Slingster. I'ts very NICE, but I think the Trex sling is a great middle ground between the Slingster and Magpul slings.

OP, I started with the Magpul slings which without hardware are very economical at $35. I ran MS1's w/QD's for all carbines and a MS3 w/QD's for my Scorpion primarily as a single point. Very good slings for the money.

This entire video is worth watching but I've queued it up to the sling portion:



 
Have some SF buds that told me to buy the Blue Force. I believe the collective comments were if you value your jewels stay away from a single point. About the first time you have to running in the woods and knocking stuff out of the way with both hands whilst being chased by bad guys and that rifle keeps fapping your Johnson you'll see what we mean.
 
JustKeepSwimming said:
Any opinions regarding the type of attachments? I have a Vickers padded sling with the sewn in QD attachments and an Arisaka QD Mount on my rails but have never used it before (although it will be on my rifle next time I go to the range).

Can one yank a QD swivel out with some force? Is it better to have the rear of the sling mounted through the buttstock vs a QD? QD vs Hooks vs Loops?

Appreciate any experiences y'all might have or know of.
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cmon just text me lol

All of my rifles are QD’d to the rear stock/brace like so. And that’s a piece of bike inner tube acting as a sling keeper when it’s not in use

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someone would have to rip on it really hard and break the QD button internals....would take a good bit of force and time

if that’s a concern, Magpul makes these paraclips that can grab sling loops (QD swivels or anchors like in the picture). The anchor I use is an MLOK attachment...not gonna tug that off (that’s what she said). The tiny button on the paraclip itself near the roll pin is a locking bar, so it won’t unlock during use (or if someone tries to remove it from you)

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One paraclip and one QD socket turned my cotton USGI sling into a very functional two point sling

On my other ARs, I’ve got magpul MS3 or 4s but keep them configured as two points; I just like the fast adjustment from long to short depending on if I’m shooting or if I’m out in the field and have the rifle slung for example
 
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