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My truck's registration list a weight of 4,000 lbs. It's GVWR is 6100 lbs. I been reading up on "weighted tags" as the truck weighs more than 4,000 lbs as it sits, and the NC DMV (go figure) website wasn't that helpful. What tag weight is appropriate in this case?
 
Your tagged weight should be the weight of the truck plus any additional weight you intend to carry.

I have my f250 tagged at 10,000 lbs.

However, if you don't intend to carry much weight often it shouldn't be an issue but you should still be tagged at you GVWR at least. The Dot is really only after commercial haulers. To get pulled for weight as a POV you would have to be doing something epiclly stupid.
 
Thanks Chdamn this is only for private use. I do tow occasionally. Does that need to be factored in at all?
 
What kind of truck? Until you get past the "1500/150" size trucks I wouldn't bother. 3/4 ton and up especially diesel you'd need to get weighted tags.
 
BurnedOutGeek;n73811 said:
What kind of truck? Until you get past the "1500/150" size trucks I wouldn't bother. 3/4 ton and up especially diesel you'd need to get weighted tags.

This is what I recommend as well. With a diesel they print a nasty note on your registration this tag is not sufficient for this vehicle meaning you prob would get a ticket when the cop sees it if you try to put a standard tag on it as I found out when I just rolled my old tag from a jeep to pickup needless to say next time I got tags I raised it.


Also like Chdamn mentioned they won't usually bother private use vehicles unless you get stopped for another reason.
 
BurnedOutGeek;n73811 said:
What kind of truck? Until you get past the "1500/150" size trucks I wouldn't bother. 3/4 ton and up especially diesel you'd need to get weighted tags.

'96 F150 regular cab/short bed. If I understand the DMV site correctly, I could get a 6,000 lbs tag without going weighted?
 
Knock on wood - I have never been pulled over to be weighed (I do have weighted plates). I have been pulled over to have my tank dipped to see if I was running "off-road" diesel... I wasn't so that was no big deal. Since then I have debadged every truck I've had since then, just so they can't tell what it is unless they know what they are looking for.
 
Scott88;n73831 said:
'96 F150 regular cab/short bed. If I understand the DMV site correctly, I could get a 6,000 lbs tag without going weighted?

I believe you are correct. I haven't had to go to the DMV since 2008...

But an F150 isn't going to draw any attention unless you are doing something incredibly stupid, and then, the thing would just blow up going down the road anyway... LOL
 
Scott88;n73831 said:
'96 F150 regular cab/short bed. If I understand the DMV site correctly, I could get a 6,000 lbs tag without going weighted?

I would.
 
BurnedOutGeek;n73838 said:
Since then I have debadged every truck I've had since then, just so they can't tell what it is unless they know what they are looking for.
May I ask what you mean by debadged?
 
Thank you. Now I understand. That makes sense. This reminds me of when I was growing up in another state and they started putting county stickers on tags and "foreigners" would routinely get harassed.
 
BurnedOutGeek;n73842 said:
I believe you are correct. I haven't had to go to the DMV since 2008...

But an F150 isn't going to draw any attention unless you are doing something incredibly stupid, and then, the thing would just blow up going down the road anyway... LOL

Well, when I get all 210 horsepower wound up, things have beem known to get crazy haha

#racetruck
 
My renewals have some warning about if this weight is insuffecient you will be subject to fines or some such.

07 F250 5.4L 6300lbs unladen. I argued with the guy at the plate office that I needed weighted, lazy bastard wasn't having it. Oh well, 5 years later one traffic stop, zero issues.

And yes you do have to buy on your truck tag whatever your trailer's laden weight is as well to be fully compliant.
 
All of the 1/2 ton vehicles I've ever owned had 8,000lb tags on them. The 3/4 ton trucks I've owned had 20,000 on them. I used to constantly have a 24' gooseneck and tractor or skid steer behind me though
 
BurnedOutGeek;n73838 said:
I have been pulled over to have my tank dipped to see if I was running "off-road" diesel... I wasn't so that was no big deal.

Did you ask what was the suspicion to check your fuel? I've not had that happen in over 12 years and wouldn't expect it.
 
htperry;n74007 said:
Did you ask what was the suspicion to check your fuel? I've not had that happen in over 12 years and wouldn't expect it.



I know a couple people that have been checked but one was pulling a cow trailer and just left stock yard area and other one was pulling a bobcat at the time and had a fuel tank in back of truck so I could see them being more likely to get checked. I would say its not common but they can check at anytime.
 
htperry;n74007 said:
Did you ask what was the suspicion to check your fuel? I've not had that happen in over 12 years and wouldn't expect it.

I pushed a little too hard on the go pedal, blew a small cloud and he lit me up.
 
Most people are over weight if they put people in their truck.

Then you see these guys pulling a car trailer with another truck on it and they are running a standard f150.
 
GoWolfpack;n74247 said:
I see no reason to spend an ounce of energy thinking about weighted tags on a private vehicle. If you look like you might be doing commercial stuff DMV might hassle you, but it's not something I can see being a big problem.

Most diesel trucks weigh more than the 6k before hooking anything to them so the dmv dings us upon registration.
 
My 01 Ram 1500 with Off Road package is over 6k empty.

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My C3500HD 1 ton dump truck weighs 9240 pounds empty. I have it tagged for 20,000 since I can put 5 tons of gravel in it and not fill the bed. I have a 24 foot deck over trailer (6 ton Hudson) and have hauled 16 rolls of hay pn the truck and trailer. Rolls weigh about 800 pounds each if rolled tight. Truck and trailer probably weighs 14,0000 empty. But farm tags are a little cheaper.
 
Jp8819;n73826 said:
This is what I recommend as well. With a diesel they print a nasty note on your registration this tag is not sufficient for this vehicle meaning you prob would get a ticket when the cop sees it if you try to put a standard tag on it as I found out when I just rolled my old tag from a jeep to pickup needless to say next time I got tags I raised it.


Also like Chdamn mentioned they won't usually bother private use vehicles unless you get stopped for another reason.

That ain't on mine, and I've been running regular tags for pert near 10 years. Piss on dmv.
 
So, when I was pulling about 1600lbs on my trailer, and the same on the back of my 96 f150 str6, I was over weight?:(
 
Weighted tags are required for commercial vehicles. If you don't use your F150 commercially I would switch it to passenger (non weighted) registration.

i carry 45k weighted farm tags on my F450 and have had the fuel checked once.
 
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Scsmith42;n74555 said:
i carry 45k weighted farm tags on my F450 and have had the fuel checked once.

Ouch I thought 20k farm tags where bad enough to buy. They are happy to see you coming.
 
I recall a thread on another forum talking about proper tagging. Said you should look at gross vehicle weight rating for vehicle and tag it for that. I guess theory is you will not overload vehicle. If pulling trailer add weights for the "combination". My truck GVWR is 16,000 and trailer is 12,000. So if I tag for 28,000 I might need a CDL. Anyone know about that?
 
For private, like has been said, I wouldn't bother with weighted tags. I have a 02 F150 (hasn't blown up yet, lol), and pull a 21 foot, 4000 pound camper at least 5-6 times a year, and run standard tags. Never been a problem.

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Stick Man;74574 said:
For private, like has been said, I wouldn't bother with weighted tags. I have a 02 F150 (hasn't blown up yet, lol), and pull a 21 foot, 4000 pound camper at least 5-6 times a year, and run standard tags. Never been a problem.

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Scsmith42;n74555 said:
i carry 45k weighted farm tags on my F450 and have had the fuel checked once.

You need a vehicle with dual tanks. Then let officer dumbass figure out which one you were running.
 
Heavy Barrel;n74572 said:
I recall a thread on another forum talking about proper tagging. Said you should look at gross vehicle weight rating for vehicle and tag it for that. I guess theory is you will not overload vehicle. If pulling trailer add weights for the "combination". My truck GVWR is 16,000 and trailer is 12,000. So if I tag for 28,000 I might need a CDL. Anyone know about that?

Here is the deal with that.....you could tag the truck for 5k and hook a trailer to it that is tagged for 22k and need a cdl even if you have not a thing on the trailer....troopers (especially the ones in Tahoes) will eat you up on this one...

As for the op I'd tag the truck for what it shows on the title/reg the truck weights.....ie my 2004 Silverado showed it was 5400lbs it was tagged for 6k...lady at the dmv office kept bugging me and rambling on about if I tow anything blah blah blah.....finally told her the only thing I haul in that truck is my kids and my fat wife(x wife now)....how much does that tag cost? The place went dead silent......tagged for 6k thank you have a nice day.
 
Stick Man;n74574 said:
For private, like has been said, I wouldn't bother with weighted tags. I have a 02 F150 (hasn't blown up yet, lol), and pull a 21 foot, 4000 pound camper at least 5-6 times a year, and run standard tags. Never been a problem.

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Recreational tags are a completely different animal in this state.....you can have a huge bus sized RV that weights 40k and not have to have a cdl to drive it.....
 
Stick Man;74574 said:
For private, like has been said, I wouldn't bother with weighted tags. I have a 02 F150 (hasn't blown up yet, lol), and pull a 21 foot, 4000 pound camper at least 5-6 times a year, and run standard tags. Never been a problem.

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Commercial regulations almost universally exempt RVs.


What does DMV say if you try to get regular plates for a truck that weighs more than 6000 lbs?
 
Heavy Barrel;n74572 said:
I recall a thread on another forum talking about proper tagging. Said you should look at gross vehicle weight rating for vehicle and tag it for that. I guess theory is you will not overload vehicle. If pulling trailer add weights for the "combination". My truck GVWR is 16,000 and trailer is 12,000. So if I tag for 28,000 I might need a CDL. Anyone know about that?

To be legal, you only have to have it tagged for what the truck, trailer, and load actually weigh. If the GVWR is more than that, it doesn't matter.

If the total truck, trailer, and load weight exceed 26,000, you need a CDL. If the weight of the trailer and load exceed 10,000, you need a CDL.
 
John;n75053 said:
To be legal, you only have to have it tagged for what the truck, trailer, and load actually weigh. If the GVWR is more than that, it doesn't matter.

This weight is also known as CGWR, or Combined Gross Vehicle weight Rating. GVWR is what the truck can physically carry in it's bed and is based upon it's axle and brake capacity; whereas CGWR is based upon the towing capacity of the truck.

A 2017 F350 DRW has a GVWR of 14,000 lbs, but a CGWR of 32,000 lbs.


John;n75053 said:
If the total truck, trailer, and load weight exceed 26,000, you need a CDL. If the weight of the trailer and load exceed 10,000, you need a CDL.

UNLESS you have a farm, have farm plates on the vehicle and are on farm business within 150 miles of the farm. Then no CDL is required - only a Class A non-CDL.
 
John;n75053 said:
If the total truck, trailer, and load weight exceed 26,000, you need a CDL. If the weight of the trailer and load exceed 10,000, you need a CDL.

CDL requirements are based on GVWR, not actual weight. Just like my "P" endorsement is required for anything designed for 16+ passengers, regardless of how many people are in the vehicle.

Tags would be for actual weight.
 
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