Winchester Primers

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I'm sure this has been beat to death but, took some 45 out to the range the other day. Had made a passel of lead rounds with Winchester primers back when you couldn't find primers and took what they had.

Must have had a bad strike 1 out of every 10-15 rounds. Haven't seemed to have this problem with CCI. Haven't tried Federal as my total make is probably only about a thousand rounds to date.

Also, these are too pretty to shoot aren't they?

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That is some beautiful shiny ammo - but I think I see a high primer. It could just be the angle and the light, but it might also be your F2Fire issue.
 
Federals are softest, then Win, CCIs are known for being "hard". Suggest checking other things.

Bad batches can happen with anything made by man though.

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These are CCI primers not Winchester. Just posted them cause they are pretty. The .45 is a Kahr and it strikes hard. Also, I don't have this issue at all with CCI primers on any sizes.
 
I purchased a couple of different lots of WSP primers back in the shortage days. The first all shot fine. No failure to fire 100% reliable. When I switched to the second lot, about 10% F2F. The primer strikes were the same as the previous lot (benefits of being behind in reloading room). I put the primers aside for revolver ammo and chalked it up to a bad batch of primers.

Checked seating depth, replaced striker springs (back to stock), nothing worked.
 
Winchester primers have been my prefered primers for the since 84'. Never had any issue with them. Just loaded up some today.


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No problems with Win primers for me. According to my log, I've loaded over 26k rounds so far, a few of those are CCI, but the vast majority are Winchester.
 
No problems with Win primers for me. According to my log, I've loaded over 26k rounds so far, a few of those are CCI, but the vast majority are Winchester.

Almost identical numbers here and other than a few thousand CCI they were all winnys. I have light springs in both of my competition pistols and have had zero problems save a high primer or two.
 
I started loading with Win primers, discovered that CCI were better, and that S&B are as good as CCI at 1/3rd less cost. That's all I have to say about that one.
 
I started loading with Win primers, discovered that CCI were better, and that S&B are as good as CCI at 1/3rd less cost. That's all I have to say about that one.
How have you seen that CCI are better? Not doubting you, just wondering in what way the CCI have performed better.
 
I have extensive experience with both Win and CCI. They both are great primers but if I had to choose one over the other, I would go with the CCIs. And only because they seem to load faster in the Dillon primer pickup tubes and I rarely have a seating issue in my Dillon 650. I can't really say that about the Win primers.

Having said all that, I'll buy whatever offers the best deal on price:p
 
I got hooked on CCI primers back in my Lee Pro1000 reloading press days. Something about the shape of them that allowed them to feed "better" on the Lee. I still favor them, I however have 10K federal that I haven't touched that I bought during the last scare, as well as several thousand of the Cabelas primers, and some Winchester. Still burring through my stash of CCI first though.
 
I gotta be close to if not over the 6 figure mark with winchester primers in pistol and rifle
 
Been getting pierced primers with WSP primers in my AR9, no issue with CCI, which is my preferred primer. Not sure what the deal is but I have another 800 of em..
 
Does the choice of primer make any difference in the "recipe"? If same press/dies, same projectile, same amount/brand of powder, and same (or at least similar) brass...would swapping from CCI to Win make a difference? Specifically SPP if it matters.

I ask because I made a deal on some powder and primers and just picked them up...and (completely my fault) didn't notice they were Win until I was at the meet-up with fellow CFF member.

I was going to try to stick to CCI, but I now have 3000 of the Win. I'll be glad to trade somebody these Win for CCI, or may dedicate them to 38/357, or even the .45 I've never loaded for.

I'd guess, especially for pistol, the primer would make the least difference in the formula?
 
Going from CCI to Win. as long as it is a SPP, will have a negligible effect on the performance of the round.

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