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Ok let me start by saying I'm not an astrologist. I don't believe in horoscopes or using the stars to guide my decisions.

However, here recently I got sent something about personality traits of your zodiac sign and I was, well quite honestly shocked at just how accurate it was. I'm a gemeni and reading all of the signs traits I could pick 1 or two things out of a few others but gemeni was about 85-90% accurate.

Most of that type of stuff was put together hundreds of years ago and updated to modern times. It's a little amazing to me that they could be so right.

This piqued my interest enough I went down a little bit of a rabbit hole looking for interactions between different signs like my wife and I and went as far as to look up the most common sign among suicides before finally stopping (it's Pisces and Virgo fwiw).

So I was just curious if anyone else ever looked at this type up stuff or am I the only weirdo?
 
Chdamn said:
Ok let me start by saying I'm not an astrologist. I don't believe in horoscopes or using the stars to guide my decisions.

However, here recently I got sent something about personality traits of your zodiac sign and I was, well quite honestly shocked at just how accurate it was. I'm a gemeni and reading all of the signs traits I could pick 1 or two things out of a few others but gemeni was about 85-90% accurate.

Most of that type of stuff was put together hundreds of years ago and updated to modern times. It's a little amazing to me that they could be so right.

This piqued my interest enough I went down a little bit of a rabbit hole looking for interactions between different signs like my wife and I and went as far as to look up the most common sign among suicides before finally stopping (it's Pisces and Virgo fwiw).

So I was just curious if anyone else ever looked at this type up stuff or am I the only weirdo?
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Weirdo.
 
I had the same thing happen to me, reading into it was pretty crazy. Like you said, about 85-90% accurate for me.
 
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Nah, you're not the only one. I've looked into it and, for the most part, it's scary accurate.
 
Yes. Weirdo... But that's neither here nor there...

Astrology like psychics and all that other mumbo jumbo is all vague and we can pretty much all find commonality in it. I think it's human nature to find yourself in things like that even if it's only true on the periphery...

BTW, did you check the Chinese zodiac too for reference?
 
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Yes. Weirdo... But that's neither here nor there...

Astrology like psychics and all that other mumbo jumbo is all vague and we can pretty much all find commonality in it. I think it's human nature to find yourself in things like that even if it's only true on the periphery...

BTW, did you check the Chinese zodiac too for reference?
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Haven't looked at the Chinese one. I acknowledge the point you're trying to make but what I was reading was very specific. And I tried to find features in the other signs that I felt were me but only find a couple of things in a couple.

And what I was looking at wasn't all roses and sunshine traits. It was the negative aspects of my sighs personality as well. Like I said still 85-90% spot on.

I think it's, if nothing else, interesting. Food for thought anyway.

I kind of look at it this way, anything that helps me understand myself a little better is a good thing.
 
There are elements of real wisdom there. You know where I am coming from on the RELIABLE sources of revelation about the true nature of the cosmos and humanity, so I won't belabor that. However, there is a reason why for centuries people studied the stars, and I don't think it is solely from a desire to mess with stuff they should not. I was fascinated with the fixation on galactic time reflected in the Mayan temples and their obsession with the stars. The calcs there were really amazing. They had a base 12 method of numerology and an understanding of planetary/stellar movement that just staggered me. My own view is that the creation is full of "revelation" about its creator, and that in ages past, was more easily and accurately interpreted than today, for reasons more historico theological.

In short, it does not surprise me that the courses of the stars/planets "tell us" something about ourselves. My astrological "sign" is pretty accurate, as well.
 
Chdamn said:
So I was just curious if anyone else ever looked at this type up stuff or am I the only weirdo?
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I don't think those two questions are necessarily an "or" situation.

Based on the fact some other people have looked at this stuff, the answer to your question as written is probably a simple "yes". :p
 
The danger is when you start allowing these beliefs to excessively direct your actions and life. I do feel that there are greater forces that affect our lives and our understanding of them have either been simply lost over time or more likely, obscured from us.
I feel these forces do have an effect on our lives, but are more subtle than direct. In other words, they may influence us to the degree that we may be inclined to act a certain way, but not absolutely dictate those actions. Much like a man born into poverty will be inclined to act a certain way and follow certain paths, but this is not fixed. Ultimately, we still choose our course.
 
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Astrology is one of the many tools of the devil.
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I have to wonder what you would say about divination and Ouija boards....;)

I think @georgel hit the proverbial nail on the head regarding subtle forces. We are part of he universe, it is reasonable that its energies would have an effect on us. Likewise we are made up of star dust from stars that went super nova billions of years ago, so yes, we are of the stars, literally and figuratively.
 
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I have to wonder what you would say about divination and Ouija boards....;)

I think @georgel hit the proverbial nail on the head regarding subtle forces. We are part of he universe, it is reasonable that its energies would have an effect on us. Likewise we are made up of star dust from stars that went super nova billions of years ago, so yes, we are of the stars, literally and figuratively.
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Most everything is a tool of the devil, or can be, including the bible. There are some things that are simply off limits to someone who professes Jesus as lord.... including divination and ouija boards. I put mind altering drugs in there, more from my personal experience than anything else. I have done these since being a believer and the sense that I had "entered a realm" in which I did not belong was clear....., and became more clear the more intensely I tripped. The fact that the Greek word for witchcraft is "pharmakeia" or entering the spiritual world (Jim Morrison was right) thru drugs only confirmed what I "sensed" once I learned what the word was (it was one of those "oh..... I see now" moments). It is entering a realm where hypersomatic personalities who are way smarter and way stronger than we live. If you are a secularist, or view this stuff with amused reservation, I don't expect you to buy into what I am saying. It is one of those things where objective content (the bible) becomes confirmed by subjective experience, and if you have not been made "alive" in the biblical sense of spirituality, you won't agree, and I understand and that is ok by me.

Astrology is one of those areas like that. In times past, God DID CLEARLY speak and reveal truth through a number of mediums, including astrology. It is abundantly clear that Daniel (one of the biblical figures of the Old Testament) was trained in all the wisdom of the ancient kingdom of Babylon, which certainly included how to "read" the stars. I am not sure how knowing the one who MADE the stars shaded all that, but we have no reason to assume he threw down his scrolls in a fit of righteous pique and declared them all Satanists who were hell bound. He learned what he could. Also, the stars clearly foretold the birth of Messiah, as some dudes showed up without a shred of biblical knowledge based only what they "saw" in the stars.

For Christians, there is good biblical cause to say, with the writer of Hebrews, that God "spoke" in times PAST in a number of ways, including ways that are now closed, in that the more perfect revelation of Himself and what we need to know (nice application of military term there) is in Jesus and the verbal revelation of Scripture.

I myself view astrology as based in principles of cosmology that, properly understood, might give me insight into things. Problem is, I believe the key to that has been lost and thus involves messing around with things best left unexplored.

I don't want to hijack Chad's thread, but since the topic came up......

Anyway, I am off to Alabama in about 2 hours. I hope all are well today. -- tans
 
georgel said:
The danger is when you start allowing these beliefs to excessively direct your actions and life. I do feel that there are greater forces that affect our lives and our understanding of them have either been simply lost over time or more likely, obscured from us.
I feel these forces do have an effect on our lives, but are more subtle than direct. In other words, they may influence us to the degree that we may be inclined to act a certain way, but not absolutely dictate those actions. Much like a man born into poverty will be inclined to act a certain way and follow certain paths, but this is not fixed. Ultimately, we still choose our course.
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I would say the same about damm near everything.

And I completely agree that there are other factor. DNA and your environment are the two keys IMO.

I think this stuff is like looking at a map with many keys. This is just one of them. The trick is to use all of the keys.
 
I checked my sign: capricorn and the metal for capricorn is lead - boy this zodiac stuff is accurate
 
Keep in mind our Solar System is located about 30,000 light years from the core of our galaxy, the Milky Way. The entire galaxy is spinning around the core at 168 miles per second, and the entire galaxy is moving through space. So, we are never really in the same location at any two points in time. Astrology has always been a little far fetched for me to accept.
 
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