I never thought of that, thank you. I learn something every day on here.Take the upper off the lower then remove the charging handle and BCG then look thru the rear of the upper receiver ... same result as remove the bolt from a bolt action rifle.
Scared money don't make money!
It's a great part of town to get neon lights underneath your truck, big tires, Mexican food, or a tattoo.
Don't know if it is the same one you are referring to, but I will say that Eagle One range had very poor ventilation and was very cramped. My wife and I shot there a few times and basically swore off shooting at indoor ranges as a result. But when TSA opened, we tried it out and became paid members immediately. Yes, the noise is a little more than an outdoor range, and I still like shooting outdoors when the weather is ok, but TSA is 15 minutes vs 1 Hour for Frontline, and the wife likes the indoor plumbing. Ventilation at an indoor range is key, and TSA has a state-0f-the-art air handling system (if they would just buy the good filters instead of the cheap ones). I suspect OnPoint will have a good system as well, but we will see.I can thank the shooting conditions and staff at an indoor range off of Old Wake Forest Rd (name withheld so not to call them out).
Got a reply from them. They referred me to their FAQs page.
https://www.aimonpoint.com/faq
They don’t have family memberships (but see what they say about guests). The killer for me is that they do not allow reloads. I know that some would say to just load the same headstamps and use the factory ammo boxes, but that just isn’t me. Pity, it looks like it is going to be a great facility.
We allow up to, but not including, .50 caliber;
I only shot at TSA a handful of times, but I distinctly remember them having everyone step back from the firing line about every 20-30 minutes and stand behind a yellow line for about 5 minutes. Of course, during this time, the RSOs would go booth to booth and inspect each firearm by groping it like it was their prom date. TSA is better than PDHSC but that's not exactly a hard thing to achieve.TSA has a state-0f-the-art air handling system (if they would just buy the good filters instead of the cheap ones).
Oh yeah, no doubt on the target system, the ability to have them turn in random intervals is awesome.I'm a member at TSA, never has any RSO inspect any of my guns when I was there, or see them do that and I go twice a week. They did have a no reload ammo policy but they reversed that decision before the range opened. I see they also allow draw from holster for those who took TSA classes and are approved in advance. TSA also has great target system, just like shooting at the FBI or NRA range.
The wife and I go to TSA, but I also go to Frontline. I’m a member at both.Where do you shoot at now?
If reloads are not allowed, we won’t be signing up. For what it is worth, Triangle Shooting Academy, before they opened, announced they would not allow reloads. They stated the same reason as you, their insurance company would not allow it. They got enough pushback that they went with another insurance company that would allow reloads. I wish you the best and hope your business does well, it is good to have businesses supporting the second amendment.
Thanks Bob, for now our official stance is no reloads. We certainly won’t check shooters ammo, that’s just unnecessary. We hope you’ll come give us a try though when we open.
I am a member at TSA and will continue supporting them. However, some of the benefits and perks have slowly dwindled there. When “Date Night” first started (something the wife and I took advantage of) they offered a discount at the cafe and 2 free targets. Non-members also got a discount for sharing a lane. Now, the cafe is no longer open at night, and they no longer give free targets. At one point they were giving preference to non-members even though they advertised the opposite. Still, it is an excellent facility and I will continue to go there, and I hope the competition from OnPoint will keep them on their toes and make them think more about satisfying the customers.Wait, I was wrong. TSA is $20 per hour, where these guys are $20 for all day. That's an incredible bargain, and less than PDHSC in Garner or Frontline Defense in Warrenton.
The 20.00 all day are the ranges in Charlotte.Wait, I was wrong. TSA is $20 per hour, where these guys are $20 for all day. That's an incredible bargain, and less than PDHSC in Garner or Frontline Defense in Warrenton.
Can you expand upon this? What ill-informed points are you referring to? The points I made were in reference to text copied right off their webpage....to include keeping your ill-informed point of views quite.
I have no problem supporting local gunshops and gun ranges that have sensible policies, but I'm not a charity, so I'm not going to financially support ones that apparently didn't want my business in the first place.If we do not support 2ndA businesses then people will invest in other types of businesses. And one day, "man I rember when we had 4 indoor ranges" What ever happened to the local gun store" I liked walking in and touching a product" It can all go away quickly.
I think his point is that it's fine to choose not to shoot there if it doesn't meet your needs or you have better options. It is less fine to badmouth it to others who may not have the same options or needs that you do.I have no problem supporting local gunshops and gun ranges that have sensible policies, but I'm not a charity, so I'm not going to financially support ones that apparently didn't want my business in the first place.
I still remember the flogging TSA got when it's announcement thread was on the Canadian forum, but highlighting these issues resulted in changed (improved) policies at TSA.I think his point is that it's fine to choose not to shoot there if it doesn't meet your needs or you have better options. It is less fine to badmouth it to others who may not have the same options or needs that you do.
Can you expand upon this? What ill-informed points are you referring to? The points I made were in reference to text copied right off their webpage.
I have no problem supporting local gunshops and gun ranges that have sensible policies, but I'm not a charity, so I'm not going to financially support ones that apparently didn't want my business in the first place.
I was going to say exactly that, but decided it was not worth it. Some just don't understand business.Look at it this way - When a new Sheetz moves into the neighborhood, they don’t open up with higher gas prices than their competition, they start a price war to get customers used to coming to their location. That strategy seems to work, I don’t ever remember a Sheetz going out of business. But what OnPoint is doing is starting out with higher prices and more restrictions than their nearby competition, which has already set the bar for a quality indoor range.
I was going to say exactly that, but decided it was not worth it. Some just don't understand business.
That is a very valid point. I don't know what the situation is with the investors, for some reason I get the feeling they may be connected with other ranges in other locations but I have no evidence of that. Maybe my analogy doesn't directly apply, but my point is that they are going to compete with an established business that already has a user base. As close as they are located from one another, OnPoint should expect that it will be absolutely necessary to draw from the customer base of TSA. Maybe they are going to be able to do that with what appears to be a better facility (shoothouse, etc) but starting out with a higher cost, at least initially, I don't think is a good idea. Throw in the fact they have additional restrictions (no reloads) and that doesn't help.The ability to consume a new store launch with a loss until it dominated a area. A single gun store is not able to do that model unless the investors are on board.
NO. And I also would not be interested in investing in their current business plan, either. If I were going to open a range, I would pick another area.@Toprudder are you on board to invest in such a business plan with a local gun range as you outlined?
Yes, in market that already includes a quality range just a few miles away, in a better location, with lower prices. Competition usually drives prices down, not up.Pricing is based on what the market can bear.