I had a local FFL tell me they are bottom of the barrel junk and not worth owning, true or false? Offered me $250 for it.
TIA,
Bill
Yours has been parkerized and rebuilt postwar from the looks of it. So it's not all originalAll original with nice wood and a bright shiny bore. Thanks for the good reviews guys.
Bill
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I had a local FFL tell me they are bottom of the barrel junk and not worth owning, true or false? Offered me $250 for it.
TIA,
Bill
Besides the parked finish, what is not original about it? Trying to learn more about it.Yours has been parkerized and rebuilt postwar from the looks of it. So it's not all original
More photos would be needed to determine that. Eddystone rifles had their parts marked with an E, Remington R, and Winchester W. Bolt, stock forend near the muzzle, trigger guard area, rear sight, etc. are all places that need to be checked. If there is a part that is W or R marked, one can assume it has been rebuilt aside from the parkerization. Also, if the bolt or stock has a serial number then it has been rebuilt, as original 1917 rifles only had a serial on the receiver.Besides the parked finish, what is not original about it? Trying to learn more about it.
Thanks,
Bill
What is the barrel marked and stock stampings? Parkerizing indicates WW2 refurb but still that is 'original'.Besides the parked finish, what is not original about it? Trying to learn more about it.
Thanks,
Bill
Not original in the sense of how and when it was issued. When someone says "original" they mean this is how it was meant to look and have the correct parts from when it was initially issued. By your logic of saying a refurb rifle is original here, then all refurb rifles and pistols from every country and every war would be considered original, when that is in fact not true. Semantics to some, but to collectors it means a world of difference.What is the barrel marked and stock stampings? Parkerizing indicates WW2 refurb but still that is 'original'.
So, you're saying its not like the Springfield 1903A1 vs 1903A3, where changes are such that they get a redesignation, but more a rearsenal, where it's an original rifle with WW2 era changes that are normal, but not the condition of a WW1 rifle that left service before being rearsenaled?Not original in the sense of how and when it was issued. When someone says "original" they mean this is how it was meant to look and have the correct parts from when it was initially issued. By your logic of saying a refurb rifle is original here, then all refurb rifles and pistols from every country and every war would be considered original, when that is in fact not true. Semantics to some, but to collectors it means a world of difference.
Correct. 1903s are great examples of this. The 03A1 and A3, per ordnance documentation of the time, considered these new models completely, and the factory lines produced them as new models. Many 03A3s were refurbed before putting in storage and could have swapped parts between Remington and Smith Corona and even original 03 parts, so these would not be original to the rifle. And there is a big difference in price from original to refurb 03A3s. Same goes for WWI era 1903s that saw refurb during the 20s and 30s, the differences are obvious and collectors want original 1903s from the WWI era and before vs a refurb post war.So, you're saying its not like the Springfield 1903A1 vs 1903A3, where changes are such that they get a redesignation, but more a rearsenal, where it's an original rifle with WW2 era changes that are normal, but not the condition of a WW1 rifle that left service before being rearsenaled?
Yes, so the bolt has been swapped and possibly the stock. Refurb is more correct than parts gun, as parts gun makes it sound like someone took a sporter and resorted it with whatever parts they could find (just my opinion). What did you end up paying?The barrel is stamped E, flaming bomb and 7-18. Bolt is a Winchester. On the wood stock, if you mean the very front above the bayo lug, it's been peened. Nothing on the TG that I can see but an Eagle head between the front take down screw and the floor plate. The spring plate under the ladder sight is an E.
I guess it is a parts gun then.
Bill
It was a hand me down from my dad. I've had it over 20 years.Yes, so the bolt has been swapped and possibly the stock. Refurb is more correct than parts gun, as parts gun makes it sound like someone took a sporter and resorted it with whatever parts they could find (just my opinion). What did you end up paying?
ahh ok, well regardless they're fantastic shooters and are becoming more desirable. I wouldn't be surprised if your dad bought it from the DCM/CMP decades ago, and they refurbed a lot as well before selling to the public.It was a hand me down from my dad. I've had it over 20 years.
Bill
I'd never spend another dime in that shyster's shop after he tried that.
No import stamp.Don’t let the refurb get you down. Great rifles and yours has an extra layer of history. On my table, that would be an $800 rifle assuming no import marks.