https://www.wxii12.com/article/poli...-threw-punch-that-killed-nyc-tourist/22692387
Guy thought his uber driver had arrived.
Guy thought his uber driver had arrived.
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I'm not a wake fan but I don't see how this is embarrassing for them. It's clearly on him alone it didn't even happen on campus.Pretty embarrassing for Wake Forest.....
Yeah I can see thatI'm looking at it from a hiring standpoint....WF hired a guy who couldn't control his temper enough and caused a man's death.....
around 1:15 a.m
Something tells me that if really put into the situation, many here would react similarly.Coach has that Philly attitude, not a Southin' neighborly culture.
The impression I got from the article (EVERYONE knows we can trust the press) the guy knocked on the window and got attacked.Something tells me that if really put into the situation, many here would react similarly.
It wasn't like he bludgeoned the man to death, he hit him once and the guy had an unlucky fall.
I, also, dont see how this reflects on WF. Again, the guy was trying to get the dead guy (while still alive) off his car/away from his car. He hit him once and the guy fell and hit his head. It sucks, but it happens.
Reminds me of a case where a man (and maybe his wife) were getting onto a public bus, they were being harassed by another guy, the guy was all up on them etc. The man turns around and pushes him, the harasser falls down one step, hits his head and dies. Is the pusher a violent maniac? I dont think so, I think few would say that. He was just trying to get the man away from him.
Just like this, guy was trying to get this drunk guy off his car and hit him once. Under 99.9999% of the time it's a pretty harmless punch with no lasting effects. This time luck wasnt on his side.
Feel for the dead man's family and friends
Feel for the WF coach and his family for the stress they'll have to go through
Some sources are saying the guy was banging on carsThe impression I got from the article (EVERYONE knows we can trust the press) the guy knocked on the window and got attacked.
Here's where grappling (Judo, wrestling, Jujitsu) are a better choice than a head strike. A submission hold isn't a killer.Again, we can armchair qb this all day long, but I feel like there are many on here that would confront a man banging on their car window. Some might resort to using a weapon, but I bet there are many that would exit vehicle and might put hands on the guy.
That, it seems, is all he did. One punch. But in a twist of fate, that one punch was all it took to cause a death.
Again, thoughts for all involved. Im sure the coach is going to have a rough few years, if not longer, thinking about what he's done.
And the ones that cared for the dead will have to live without the man.
The guy was partying at his sister's wedding, not some thug.
Just two people who ran into each other at the wrong time.
DKWT - Don't Know Wasn't There
You should be more careful with your spelling.Add to that could really careless.
You should be more careful with your spelling.
That brings up the question of what the guy whose car was getting beat on was thinking was happening? There in lies the whole reasonable force / reasonable response portion. If his actions were such that the proverbial reasonable person would have acted then you really can't fault him.Saw an episode on Cops where a couple of drunks piled into a guys car thinking it was an Uber, and damn near got shot. The driver was carrying and thought he was being carjacked.
I tap on the window for her to open the driver door for me and
She did not hit me or pull her gun.
No reason to hit the guy, must have been looking for the Uber logo.
My wife was waiting in our car for me to get a car part at Advance,
I tap on the window for her to open the driver door for me and
a woman rolled down the window, "oh sorry, wrong car",
she parked closer and I had the wrong car, both were 2009 black malibu
She did not hit me or pull her gun.
Agree but until we see more video we do not know. Why did the guy leave? What was inside his SUV or was it a rental?Tapping on a window politely is a little different than a drunk running around banging on windows?
Where did you read he was drunk pounding on cars?The .gov should be sued for putting concrete where the drunk and belligerent moron laid his head.
^ That makes as much sense as anything absent having actually been there.
I think we can all picture a scene where a drunk guy is running around acting crazy at 1am pounding on cars. I can also imagine that said drunk dude would cause a confrontation that resulted in a "get off me" punch. Unfortunate that such a punch was part of the drunk dude's continuum that lead to his death.
You can't just insert the punch as the 'start' of the sequence that lead to his death. Get Drunk > Beat on Cars > Act a fool > Get Punched > Fall Down > Hit Head > Die. You can't necessarily ignore steps 1-3 and lay the blame on step 4.
Where did you read he was drunk pounding on cars?
And I missed that too...thank you.Did anyone notice that in @HMP 's 1st link in post #14 above, it seems to indicate that the dead dude was the first to throw a punch.....
.......After banging on multiple cars in front of 41-10 29th St., a nearby person heard the commotion and went to confront Szabo, sources said.
Szabo then punched the person in the face, the New York Post reports. That's when Jones approached Szabo and punched him........