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Benchmade Knife Company destroying firearms.
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georgel
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I would think a rapid and whole hearted apology along with some other action, like a donation as penence might have brought them from the brink. Rather than the lukewarm explanation we got. As more time passes the worse it's going to get. It will be perceived as silence is consent and confirmation.
SMH
Are you familiar with Randolph the brown nosed reindeer?
He's just as fast as Rudolph, just can't stop as quick.
I’m not saying it wasn’t a terrible PR move, but come on, Dremel Dan has destroyed more 1911’s than Benchmade ever did. How about Bubba and the mil slurps: the thousands of guys stippling and lightening slides on Glocks?
Bunch of snowflakes.
Bunch of snowflakes.
If firearms were submitted to the police, and the rightful owners said “please destroy these” then I have no problems with firearms being destroyed.
If firearms were destroyed rather than being returned to their rightful owners, then I have a huge problem with it.
I firearms could have been sold to lessen taxpayer burden for funding the department, big problem.
If the police have an SOP for how things should be destroyed, then they should have the tools and facilities to do so.
If you are going to share the destruction of firearms on social media, you should at least drop them in one of those giant grinder thingies.
If firearms were destroyed rather than being returned to their rightful owners, then I have a huge problem with it.
I firearms could have been sold to lessen taxpayer burden for funding the department, big problem.
If the police have an SOP for how things should be destroyed, then they should have the tools and facilities to do so.
If you are going to share the destruction of firearms on social media, you should at least drop them in one of those giant grinder thingies.
Comparing apples to rotten shriveled up oranges.
MadMan4Ever
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As I said, it’s the $33,000+ in donations to Democrats that bothers me most.
If this state ever became blue like CA & there was no GRNC, I’d send the money to GOA or Saint Jude’s children hospital before sending it to cretinous Dems...
Or I’d save it & use it to move company elsewhere.
I do wonder why companies that are supported by sportsmen, hunters, and shooters stay in toxic states. It’s not like other states aren’t offering incentives to attract them.
Question - so BM is bad for being a 'bootlicker' etc, sure. But what of the retailers who carry their product. If they continued to do so, how would you feel about that retailer? Are they not, then, supporting this anti-2A company by continuing to sell their wares? Or do you see it as a small guy just trying to get by?
Wrangler Star is a pompous turd I can run circles around on a farm, logging, woodcutting , running equipment, hunting , fishing ...you name it.
Just so we’re clear, I don’t like him.
@ 0:30 Words mean things- it's a democrat politician, NOT a democratic politician or party. If they re-define the terms, you lose. @ 3:30 "They're (police) not in the business of reselling guns- they don't have the finances, they don't have the facility, it's just common sense" They have the documentation and storage facility already. Take all the stolen guns and return them to their rightful owners! Put the remainder up for bid to local gun dealers as a block sale. Use the funds for a charity, or department needs. It would have cost a hell of a lot less than the labor of unskilled machinists to cut each one up.- Buddy, It's just common sense.
Police dont have the resources to sell/sale/sail/cell off is BS. Run the firearms through any of the many police auctions held annually or though their online auctions.
Im sure there is more than one officer that holds an FFl license.
Im sure there is more than one officer that holds an FFl license.
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If nothing else, I bet a local ffl would do it on consignment for them.
So many ways to get it done.
AIM Surplus is giving discounts to customers who throw their benchmades in the trash cans marked “benchmade disposal unit”
Hypothetically, because they likely would never do it:
- Admit, unequivocally, that what they did was wrong. Period. Full stop. Don't qualify it by "standing with the police" or any such nonsense. Full admission.
- Acknowledge your customer base's anger and promise to think about the consequences of their actions fully.
- Vow to never again donate to anti-gun legislators, of either party.
That may stop the arterial bleeding long enough to give the patient a chance to survive rather than dying on the table.
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little thread derail
The face and name is blocked out, but I'd bet Paronto posted it.
Combat Diver
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"Nobody can ruin their good name as fast as Jussie Smollett."
"Benchmade - Hold my beer..."
Libs don't buy and carry knives. They've pissed off their largest customer base. The number one advertising success is word of mouth and you can change it in one day in todays setting.
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"Benchmade - Hold my beer..."
Libs don't buy and carry knives. They've pissed off their largest customer base. The number one advertising success is word of mouth and you can change it in one day in todays setting.
CD
So... given a day to mull this over I'm left curios about why this is turning into such a crap storm? It's interesting to me: What is it about this incident that's so persuasive?
We're crying foul - and I feel it too - and yet most of what I have on as I type this message was made by actual communists in communist countries and that doesn't cause me to have any sort of reaction like the one I got from seeing Benchmade destroy guns.
Is it because it was visual?
Because guns are symbolic?
Is it similar to desecrating the flag?
We're crying foul - and I feel it too - and yet most of what I have on as I type this message was made by actual communists in communist countries and that doesn't cause me to have any sort of reaction like the one I got from seeing Benchmade destroy guns.
Is it because it was visual?
Because guns are symbolic?
Is it similar to desecrating the flag?
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I would venture a guess that most people feel very betrayed. The assumption, right or wrong, was that Benchmade was pro-US/2A/etc. and because they were so widely (or mostly) liked/respected, this came as quite a kick in the nads to a lot of people. Also, as I think someone either here or on ar15 mentioned, the 2A community has been getting beaten down in so many places and in so many ways, this was just too much for some folks.
Just a thought.
Guns are our religion.
I am offended by the source of the problem, the stupidity of taking and destroying assets just because they are guns. I don’t see the police burning the cash they seize or cutting up cars, they are treating guns like they treat items that are illegal, like drugs. It is stupid.
I am not offended at the company that they contract for the work any more than I’d be offended at the maker of the saw or grinder used in the process.
I own a number of Benchmade knives, the 705 is one of my favorite knives of all time. Haven’t bought a new knife from them in many years, just not excited by the offerings.
Chuckman
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little thread derail
Still makes one of the best helmets, though. That one I had to hold my nose and swallow...
It aggravates me that you can't get your property back because it was used in the commission of a crime like it is tainted forever. They are using the logic that dictates we kill dangerous animals after a mauling and applying it to inanimate objects. It's like blowing up a city block because they sell crack there or bulldozing City Hall because an official was taking bribes..............................you know what, maybe it isn't such a bad idea......
RedneckFur
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Proud of a buddy of mine. He cut up his benchmade knife in his shop yesterday, and emailed the picture to the company.
Kershaw on the other hand, is taking advantage of this. They posted an ad to their social media this morning saying "Our blades cut many things, but guns aren't one of them." Kershaw is committed to the 2A. I'm proud to be a long-time customer of them.
Kershaw on the other hand, is taking advantage of this. They posted an ad to their social media this morning saying "Our blades cut many things, but guns aren't one of them." Kershaw is committed to the 2A. I'm proud to be a long-time customer of them.
Ikarus1
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Every time I read a new story about this, it pisses me off to no end. The police dept and the knife company are complete and utter PR dolts with hoof and mouth disease. Keep digging you stupid mofos:
https://www.kptv.com/news/oregon-ci...cle_67ef365c-366d-11e9-a640-2f412f4f92a1.html
“We're not taking away people's guns,” Cpt. Davis said. “Some people were saying that these were gun buybacks, and we've never done a gun buyback. If we did sell a gun legally and it got into the wrong hands or it was used in a violent crime or a murder or something like that and it got traced back to us we would have to answer to the public to say you had this gun and you had an opportunity to get rid of this gun and now look what it did.”
So, if you sold a gun legally and it was used in a crime, then you would be liable?
Uh.......no. Pretty sure the SCOTUS rules that even the gun manufacturer (who sells guns legally) are not liable, any more than a car manufacturer or an alcohol distiller, or a knife maker whose product killed someone.
Hey, I am pretty sure someone somewhere has been killed by a Benchmade knife.......most likely they're not worried about it.
Again, the 2A is relegated to the backseat of the Bill of Rights, and I for one am F&CKING tired of that.
https://www.kptv.com/news/oregon-ci...cle_67ef365c-366d-11e9-a640-2f412f4f92a1.html
“We're not taking away people's guns,” Cpt. Davis said. “Some people were saying that these were gun buybacks, and we've never done a gun buyback. If we did sell a gun legally and it got into the wrong hands or it was used in a violent crime or a murder or something like that and it got traced back to us we would have to answer to the public to say you had this gun and you had an opportunity to get rid of this gun and now look what it did.”
So, if you sold a gun legally and it was used in a crime, then you would be liable?
Uh.......no. Pretty sure the SCOTUS rules that even the gun manufacturer (who sells guns legally) are not liable, any more than a car manufacturer or an alcohol distiller, or a knife maker whose product killed someone.
Hey, I am pretty sure someone somewhere has been killed by a Benchmade knife.......most likely they're not worried about it.
Again, the 2A is relegated to the backseat of the Bill of Rights, and I for one am F&CKING tired of that.
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And then you explain that it didn’t do anything, that the criminal was the bad actor. Any LEO that claims not to know this is lying and should be removed.
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Is there not a statute in that state that someone is violating if they knowingly are aware they are in possession of stolen property and make no attempt to return it to its rightful owner? I'll bet it's called something like Possession of Stolen Property.
The makers of the saws and grinders give people the ability to cut and grind stuff. What they cut and grind is a decision they make. Gun makers give people the ability to shoot objects. What they shoot is a decision they make.
You're smarter than this.
I admit that it’s a stretch, but my point is that Benchmade is just the tool, they didn’t make the decision that the guns be destroyed. That they chose to be the tool was stupid for what are now obvious reasons, but the fact is that if they had refused, the guns would still have been destroyed.
Think about it like this. The court orders the guns destroyed and the police approach Benchmade. A smart Benchmade would have said “no thanks” and in response to the question “why not?” they would have correctly reasoned that a vocal portion of their potential customer base would view it as being anti 2a or supporting folks that are anti 2a. That wouldn’t have been the end of it, the police would have maybe gone and bought a grinder and chopped them up. So in the end the only difference is that Benchmade did the chopping, and to this action we ascribe anti 2a intention where there is no evidence that this was intended. Again, we are destroying a company over pointless outrage...a classic move from the far left’s playbook.
So Benchmade is stupid, but other than some minor campaign contributions I see no evidence that they are anti 2a.
I'll ask again - how will the gun community treat vendors (not necessarily here, but in general) who still sell their products, is that supporting an 'anti-2a' company by continuing to sell their wares?
Will you refuse to buy from a vendor who sells their items?
Will you refuse to buy from a vendor who sells their items?