‘Multiple casualties’ after Marine North Carolina rollover

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The Marine Corps reported “multiple casualties,” after a Marine truck transporting troops outside of Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, rolled over on the highway, Marine officials told Marine Corps Times.

“We are aware of a vehicle rollover in Jacksonville, North Carolina, involving service members with 2nd MLG. We are working closely with @camp_lejeune and Onslow County officials to gather details regarding this incident. We will release more information as it becomes available,” the official Twitter account from the 2nd MLG said on Wednesday.



The accident happened around 1 p.m. local time, when a troop transport with Marines from the 2nd Marine Logistics Group rolled over near the Stone Bay area of Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.

Local media reported that Onslow County has sent multiple rescue vehicles to the scene and that Camp Lejeune’s fire and emergency services are also on scene providing support.
 
News said a 19 year old was driving and might have been going too fast.
 
Prayers for all involved and their families, especially the ones that paid the ultimate sacrifice.
 
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REELDOC said:
News said a 19 year old was driving and might have been going too fast.
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I honestly don’t see how. Those trucks don’t do fast.

Hate that guys got hurt and killed. But it’s the cost of training. Sucks but there it is.
 
Chdamn said:
I honestly don’t see how. Those trucks don’t do fast.

Hate that guys got hurt and killed. But it’s the cost of training. Sucks but there it is.
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when we had a tanker truck run into an overpass and shut down I75 for a while up in MI, everybody immediately freaked out and blamed irresponsible truck drivers. turned out some dude in a little compact car decided to swerve his car into the truck tires...
 
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Hate to hear about stuff like this... Prayers for the dead and injured and all of their families.

I feel really bad for the young driver. If he lived, he's going to have this incident weighing on his mind for a long time, and he probably won't get much in the way of counseling, other than, "Go dig a hole and fill it back in until I tell you to stop."
 
Driver charged. I don't see how those things go fast (relative for 'fast' for those truck), but apparently he was hauling a**. Damn shame. RIP to the deceased, and prayers for the one battling for their lives (several flown out and in ICU with life-threatening injuries).
 
Chuckman said:
Driver charged. I don't see how those things go fast (relative for 'fast' for those truck), but apparently he was hauling a**. Damn shame. RIP to the deceased, and prayers for the one battling for their lives (several flown out and in ICU with life-threatening injuries).
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Isn't there normally a senior NCO up front with the driver? What safety protocols were violated, beyond having an inexperienced driver in training at the wheel?
The kid is going to spend several years in Leavenworth, then get prosecuted in state court upon release.
Sounds like multiple failures led to this tragedy.
 
fishgutzy said:
Isn't there normally a senior NCO up front with the driver? What safety protocols were violated, beyond having an inexperienced driver in training at the wheel?
The kid is going to spend several years in Leavenworth, then get prosecuted in state court upon release.
Sounds like multiple failures led to this tragedy.
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No, not necessarily. Drivers are often E1-E3, and if he was hauling Marines from here to there on base, there may not have been anyone of higher rank in the truck. Given it was a state road, he'll be tried in state courts. He may do time behind bars but it won't be at Leavenworth. Somewhere in NC. And dishonorably discharged.
 
That's awful! I had a young SSgt roll a Hummer when they first came out while out in the desert at WTI. If IIRC he crushed 2 or three in the wreck and badly injured a couple more. The accident was off-road and it took several years to go to tria!. He remained on active duty, was reduced to E3, and wrongly so I believe.
 
Chuckman said:
No, not necessarily. Drivers are often E1-E3, and if he was hauling Marines from here to there on base, there may not have been anyone of higher rank in the truck. Given it was a state road, he'll be tried in state courts. He may do time behind bars but it won't be at Leavenworth. Somewhere in NC. And dishonorably discharged.
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He was on duty and thus also subject to prosecution under the UCMJ. This is true of all servicemen who run afoul of the law off base. Servicemen can be prosecuted 3 times for the same crime if it is off base. State, Federal, and Military. All are considered separate jurisdictions.
Civilians can be tried twice. State and federal court. A murderer that a state jury refused to convict because of his skin color, despite the mountain of evidence, was convicted in federal court.
 
fishgutzy said:
He was on duty and thus also subject to prosecution under the UCMJ. This is true of all servicemen who run afoul of the law off base. Servicemen can be prosecuted 3 times for the same crime if it is off base. State, Federal, and Military. All are considered separate jurisdictions.
Civilians can be tried twice. State and federal court. A murderer that a state jury refused to convict because of his skin color, despite the mountain of evidence, was convicted in federal court.
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Yeah, I know that.

In this case, they'll likely take the easier the two paths, give it to the state, simultaneously dishonorable discharge.

Stuff like this would never make it to Leavenworth.
 
Chuckman said:
Yeah, I know that.

In this case, they'll likely take the easier the two paths, give it to the state, simultaneously dishonorable discharge.

Stuff like this would never make it to Leavenworth.
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I highly doubt that. The state will more than likely be all to happy to pass that on to the USMC to prosecute if they decide. Even if charged and convicted it wouldn’t be Leavenworth. He’d likely serve out whatever time he got in the Lejeune Brig.
 
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