1st female to graduate USMC infantry officers course

The Marine Corps has been stoic in it's decision to never lower standards to allow for social experimentation in their ranks.

I have always said, I will serve beside anyone, male, female, gay or straight, so long as they were not given preferential treatment or lowered standards to get there.

It is extremely impressive that she is about to complete this course. Most women do not have the physiology to complete such a course. The most common issue is separation of the tendons in the calf with females who attempt such a rigorous course. Women just were not designed to carry such heavy loads.

I would love to see a picture of this woman. One thing you can be certain of is that she doesn't look like Demi Moore in that crappy Seal movie.
 
Chdamn said:
The Marine Corps has been stoic in it's decision to never lower standards to allow for social experimentation in their ranks.

I have always said, I will serve beside anyone, male, female, gay or straight, so long as they were not given preferential treatment or lowered standards to get there.

It is extremely impressive that she is about to complete this course. Most women do not have the physiology to complete such a course. The most common issue is separation of the tendons in the calf with females who attempt such a rigorous course. Women just were not designed to carry such heavy loads.

I would love to see a picture of this woman. One thing you can be certain of is that she doesn't look like Demi Moore in that crappy Seal movie.
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I am on the fence. Just because they can doesn't mean they should. Social engineering and all. That said, she's got balls, and golf claps to her for making it through a notoriously difficult course.

I have always said making it through the course is easy. Spending time as a PL in the field, there's where the rubber meets the road.
 
Chdamn said:
I have always said, I will serve beside anyone, male, female, gay or straight, so long as they were not given preferential treatment or lowered standards to get there.
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That's all well and good. But completing the course says nothing about unit cohesion. How does a fighting unit comprised of a motley of gay/straight/men/women/trannies fare relative to a unit comprised of straight men, especially under fire, or extended periods of time at the front?

Passing the course also says nothing about how many years of combat service the military can expect from someone - as it turns out, this measure is not the same across genders. It's interesting how often female soldiers just happen to get preggars right before deployment.
 
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drypowder said:
That's all well and good. But completing the course says nothing about unit cohesion. How does a fighting unit comprised of a motley of gay/straight/men/women/trannies fare relative to a unit comprised of straight men, especially under fire, or extended periods of time at the front?

Passing the course also says nothing about how many years of combat service the military can expect from someone - as it turns out, this measure is not the same across genders. It's interesting how often female soldiers just happen to get preggars right before deployment.
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This has been studied multiple times. The findings are always that all male units outperform mixed units.
[Even among trained professional fighters, men and women are split. We'll see how long the Olympics allowing men to compete as women lasts when men win all the gold medals and no actual women wins gold. ]
 
There have been rumors from some of my buddies still in the Corps that she wasn't required to pass the final forced march.....and a multi-star showed up to observe her "finish."

I wasn't a Marine (not particularly fond of how crayons taste, even the Gourmet ones from Crayola), so I am not familiar with all the particulars required to graduate.

If she did it legit, good on her. Bad ass congratulations and she should run with it.

If there was any Brass Frackery involved, then it's not a victory for anyone but reality-challenged feminists.
 
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I will be surprised if she get's an infantry platoon. Strong money says she gets a staff/support job. Stronger money says if she does get a platoon, she won't make it through an entire tour. That is a brutal lifestyle, and I imagine her body will break down. It's not a slam on her, at all: she finished a very demanding course; but rather, an indictment of the punishing lifestyle of living a grunt's life.
 
drypowder said:
How does a fighting unit comprised of a motley of gay/straight/men/women/trannies fare relative to a unit comprised of straight men, especially under fire, or extended periods of time at the front?
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This difference is only due to the white male hate that has been allowed to breed far too long in such a cis-centered, hetero normative, misogynist organization like the military. But don't worry, the neomarxists are hard at work making sure everyone gets a chance to be a seal, ranger, force recon etc if they want to be. Even if their only qualification is they played call of duty once.

In a more serious note, it is impressive if she finished all the quals that the men did. But I agree, there are other problems and considerations to be had before being placed in a combat unit.
 
Chuckman said:
I will be surprised if she get's an infantry platoon. Strong money says she gets a staff/support job. Stronger money says if she does get a platoon, she won't make it through an entire tour. That is a brutal lifestyle, and I imagine her body will break down. It's not a slam on her, at all: she finished a very demanding course; but rather, an indictment of the punishing lifestyle of living a grunt's life.
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My money is she becomes a poster child for women can do anything BS and doesn't actually do what she "trained for" in the field...

I hope it was legit. If so, good on her. If she was cut any slack at all, the whole thing is BS...
 
She's not the first to get through.......


***some profanity in the video, so don't watch at work....if that sort of thing isn't acceptable at your work***
 
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That's funny, but in all seriousness, she probably trains so hard she doesn't have periods any more.
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That's funny. Young women training in gymnastics are told by their coaches that if they get their period it meant they weren't training hard enough. [emoji38]

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