63 percent of ‘non-citizens’ on welfare, 4.6 million households

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  1. Pink_Vapor

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    Now this is BS! Add the cost of amberlamps and the emergency room for a cold, gubmnt education, etc, etc.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...on-citizens-on-welfare-4-6-million-households

    Census confirms: 63 percent of ‘non-citizens’ on welfare, 4.6 million households
    A majority of “non-citizens,” including those with legal green card rights, are tapping into welfare programs set up to help poor and ailing Americans, a Census Bureau finding that bolsters President Trump’s concern about immigrants costing the nation.

    In a new analysis of the latest numbers, from 2014, 63 percent of non-citizens are using a welfare program, and it grows to 70 percent for those here 10 years or more, confirming another concern that once immigrants tap into welfare, they don’t get off it.

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    The Center for Immigration Studies said in its report that the numbers give support for Trump’s plan to cut non-citizens off welfare from the “public charge” if they want a green card that allows them to legally work in the United States.

    “The Trump administration has proposed new ‘public charge’ rules making it harder for prospective immigrants to qualify for lawful permanent residence -- green cards -- if they use or are likely to use U.S. welfare programs,” said CIS.

    “Concern over immigrant welfare use is justified, as households headed by non-citizens use means-tested welfare at high rates. Non-citizens in the data include illegal immigrants, long-term temporary visitors like guest workers, and permanent residents who have not naturalized. While barriers to welfare use exist for these groups, it has not prevented them from making extensive use of the welfare system, often receiving benefits on behalf of U.S.-born children,” added the Washington-based immigration think tank.

    The numbers are huge. The report said that there are 4,684,784 million non-citizen households receiving welfare.

    And nearly all, 4,370,385, have at least one worker in the house..

    In their report, Steven A. Camarota, the director of research, and Karen Zeigler, a demographer at the Center, said that in census data, about half of those are in the United States illegally.

    Their key findings in the analysis:

    • In 2014, 63 percent of households headed by a non-citizen reported that they used at least one welfare program, compared to 35 percent of native-headed households.
    • Welfare use drops to 58 percent for non-citizen households and 30 percent for native households if cash payments from the Earned Income Tax Credit are not counted as welfare. EITC recipients pay no federal income tax. Like other welfare, the EITC is a means-tested, anti-poverty program, but unlike other programs one has to work to receive it.
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    • Compared to native households, non-citizen households have much higher use of food programs (45 percent vs. 21 percent for natives) and Medicaid (50 percent vs. 23 percent for natives).
    • Including the EITC, 31 percent of non-citizen-headed households receive cash welfare, compared to 19 percent of native households. If the EITC is not included, then cash receipt by non-citizen households is slightly lower than natives (6 percent vs. 8 percent).
    • While most new legal immigrants (green card holders) are barred from most welfare programs, as are illegal immigrants and temporary visitors, these provisions have only a modest impact on non-citizen household use rates because: 1) most legal immigrants have been in the country long enough to qualify; 2) the bar does not apply to all programs, nor does it always apply to non-citizen children; 3) some states provide welfare to new immigrants on their own; and, most importantly, 4) non-citizens (including illegal immigrants) can receive benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children who are awarded U.S. citizenship and full welfare eligibility at birth.
     
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    This is dead on. My observations (as in, what I have seen): many Latinos use Medicare/Medicaid at physicians' offices, EBT at the grocery store. Ironically in the ED, while some use M/M, I have seen some pull out a yuge wad of cash and pay cash. It is an enormous drain on resources.
     
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    I'm telling you why, cause it's EBT for thee.
     
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    I see an alternative method to fixing immigration! Forget the wall amirite!

    EDIT: hahaha^
     
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    Works for me. The Fed made me prove I could support myself while the gaggle of Latinos next to me at the INS office got handed their various welfare instruments and a check to get them started. I've had unemployment because I paid into it, not a damn thing else.
     
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    If you're legal, and had to pay for it, I'll be derned if needing and receiving it's fair.
     
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    Parasites are of many different nationalities.
     
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    So needing and receiving unemployment I paid into isn't fair? I already pay into/for a bunch of things I'm not eligible to receive.
     
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    I thought Trump was going to fix this his first year in office? Oh well, another liar.
     
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    No,no, I wasn't clear. If one's here legally and has paid in, of course you should be as eligible as a citizen that did the same.
     
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    Ah gotcha.
     
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    I'll take some of that Free Money but I don't have time to stand in line.
    Recon I could email in a request?
     
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    Folks come to chase a dream, if that dream doesn’t work out for whatever reason, how soft should the locals make the landing, and why?

    Having “paid in” is an interesting concept, but really it’s all just theft/taxes with various names, heck if it was business the locals would charge extra for allowing someone new to enjoy the benefits of the environment they’ve created, so chalk it up to that.
     
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    I heard if you wanted one, you can get a EBT card on craigslist for a similar discount that you can get gift cards on Ebay. Or just straight up trade various sundries and services for said Flag card.
     
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    Doesn't look like we're getting the cream of the crop when it comes to immigrants, legal or otherwise.
     
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    Pardon my ignorance, why the hell are we giving non-citizens ANYTHING?
     
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