7.62X40.... A 300BLK on Steroids

They have an excellent reputation based on their subsonic 300 BLK offerings,
Lehigh has some excellent SubSonic specialty bullets for .308 caliber, I was around when JD was working with David Fricke to design those. I did not have anything to do with it, just know about it. Also, Cutting Edge has some superb offerings on that front as well...... I don't do much subsonic work, a little in 45 ACP and 9mm........ I really like keeping 300 BLK and 7.62X40 in serious mode with good bullet design. You are in pretty good shape with the Lehigh Chaos series in either short or long version in your 300 Ham'r or 300 BLK........
 
Bringing this one back up to add some new info. Long story short this past Spring I decided to build a switch barrel rifle based off a Zermatt Arms Origin action. One barrel was to be an existing .223 Rem barrel from a Savage 112BVS that I have used for PDogs the past several years. This was mainly so that I could upgrade from an internal 4-round magazine (which I invariably ended up single loading while shooting) to a detachable box magazine and also to put the rifle in a KRG Bravo chassis to match my other PDog rifle. Since the Origin action was going to have a 0.385in bolt face having a second barrel chambered in either 7.62x40 WT or .300 HAM'R for use the remainder of the year was a logical step.

Unfortunately, circumstances, resource availability, and budget made neither of those chamberings attainable at that time. Thus I ended up with a 1 in 8" twist 19" barrel chambered in .300BLK. Cliff Notes version it's a hammer with every bullet I've tested in the 100gr-135gr range using H110 and Starline brass.

I did make sure to grab some CE 100gr Raptors! This have proven quite accurate .300BLK bolt rifle clocking in around 2525fps from the 19" barrel. Recalling the previous discussion of how the Raptors just barely fit in the 7.62x40 WT and wondering if they might be a no go for the 300 HAM'R due to the longer case length I decided to investigate now that I finally had some Raptors in hand.

Starting with a brand new Starline 300 HAM'R case (1.5930in) quickly showed that indeed the top driving band would be below the case mouth, even seating the raptor at the maximum OAL of 2.260in. Trimming the case to slightly below max for 7.62x40 WT (1.565in) results in being able to seat the Raptor at less than maximum OAL. In the image below that case is listed as the "pseudo 7.62x40WT". For reference my .300BLK (aka 7.62x35) charge is 19.84gr of H110 and it fills the BLK case right to the neck-shoulder junction resulting in minimal compressed load. Looking at how far the Raptor protrudes past the neck-shoulder junction on the pseudo 7.62x40 WT; recalling @Michael458 has already demonstrated that you can indeed compress 25.5gr of Lil'Gun into a 7.62x40 WT case and because the 300 HAM'R is nearly the identical case n theory one should be able to utilize the 100gr FB Raptor in the 300 HAM'R using slightly shorter than spec cases.

If I ever do procure a 300HAM'R barrel with a suitable twist rate for the Raptor I will likely test this theory. However, since my current AR-15 300 HAM'R barrels are 1 in 15" and 1 in 13" respectively it is not prudent to proceed at this time.
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Side Note: Although I did not do a 100% exhaustive search very few companies that chamber small shank Savage barrels offer either the 7.62x40 WT or 300 HAMR as an option. I do have a part# for the reamer from PT&G and gauge as well as a suitable barrel blank, but I'm not willing to endure that potential cluster just yet.

Although not an option for testing the Raptor theory, Wilson has come out with a barrel conversion for the Ruger American Ranch rifle:


This is an interesting option since that rifle accepts STANAG and not AICS pattern mags (20 or 30 rounds versus max 10 rounds).

 
Recalling the previous discussion of how the Raptors just barely fit in the 7.62x40 WT and wondering if they might be a no go for the 300 HAM'R due to the longer case length I decided to investigate now that I finally had some Raptors in hand.

Shorten the case. Yes, I have done just that in multiple cartridges, cases, with various bullets I wanted or needed to work. At one point I shortened some 7.62X40 by just a tad for the Raptor, on the next batch I just seated it slightly deeper, but still could see that top groove. Too lazy to shorten that batch............... Its not an issue to shorten the case at all and will do nothing to effect pressures or internal ballistics. But then its not a 300 Hammer anymore, its a shortened 7.62X40........ LOL.............
recalling @Michael458 has already demonstrated that you can indeed compress 25.5gr of Lil'Gun into a 7.62x40 WT case and because the 300 HAM'R is nearly the identical case n theory one should be able to utilize the 100gr FB Raptor in the 300 HAM'R using slightly shorter than spec cases.
Yep.......
If I ever do procure a 300HAM'R barrel with a suitable twist rate for the Raptor I will likely test this theory. However, since my current AR-15 300 HAM'R barrels are 1 in 15" and 1 in 13" respectively it is not prudent to proceed at this time.
SSK has 7.62X40 Reamers and can get proper twist barrels.

A few months ago I bought some 300 Hammer brass from Midway I think...... I intend to run it through the 7.62X40 size die and trim it back to proper length...... Just to see if I can do it. Sadly many other projects have been put in front of that one and I have not got around to it. I believe Wilson has stopped providing 7.62X40 ready to load brass, assuming they put all their support behind the 300 Hammer. I have at least a couple of thousand 7.62 loaded, and really don't need any brass, but was just curious about forming that. Probably just about the same as getting the basic 223 from Starline, trim and form it to whatever you want....... I did 250 of those to 7.62X40 with excellent results, but damn it drove me nuts trimming it, I get very bored trimming brass.........

Anything I can help with let me know........
 
For anything I would do with any .308 caliber cartridge, the 100 Raptor is my choice for those missions...........

Here is some 7.62X40 cases FULL of LilGun........and then topped off with 100 Raptors.........

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Take the Talon Tip out of the 100 Raptors, and load them in 30/30 as well.......... quite a boost to the old lever cartridge............. and of course 300 BLK and 308 Winchester standing by.........

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100 Raptors make 308 Winchester a serious Terminal Threat............

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And in 300 Winchester 3800 fps + depending on barrel length.............

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I believe my last batch of 100 Raptors was 3000...........

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SSK has 7.62X40 Reamers and can get proper twist barrels.

A few months ago I bought some 300 Hammer brass from Midway I think...... I intend to run it through the 7.62X40 size die and trim it back to proper length...... Just to see if I can do it. Sadly many other projects have been put in front of that one and I have not got around to it. I believe Wilson has stopped providing 7.62X40 ready to load brass, assuming they put all their support behind the 300 Hammer. I have at least a couple of thousand 7.62 loaded, and really don't need any brass, but was just curious about forming that. Probably just about the same as getting the basic 223 from Starline, trim and form it to whatever you want....... I did 250 of those to 7.62X40 with excellent results, but damn it drove me nuts trimming it, I get very bored trimming brass.........

Anything I can help with let me know........
SSK is on my list if I do decide to move forward with the 7.62x40 WT. They are probably one of the very few places that still have a 7.62x40WT reamer.

Speaking of forming 7.62x40 WT from 300 HAM'R I found the SAAMI drawings and it looks like the shoulders are just a touch different between the two with the 300 HAMR being just a touch longer. IT should work out fine though.


I believe my last batch of 100 Raptors was 3000...........
This might explain why those bullets are on backorder in perpetuity! :cool:
 
I ran across the 300 Hammer brass on Midway, decided to check them out to see if I could make some easy 7.62X40....... Just before that Wilson still had 7.62X40 brass on the website and I ordered a 1000 of them. I only received 400. Figured they were going out of the 7.62X40 business and devoting to the 300. Figure it might work fine just to size and trim....... I really didn't need brass, but you can't ever have too much and I believe in investing in Precious Metals..... LOL......... That last 100 Raptor order was last year, and indeed it was an order of 3000. Along with that order was 2000 .224 caliber 50 Raptors, standard in all .224 caliber guns. And one of my favorite 45 ACP bullets the 200 gr FN Copper Solids, a 1000 of those. Yes, Precious Metal investments...........

My Daughter decided to do some Deer hunting after hunting on our Farm with her brother. She didn't have a designated rifle of her own at the time, so I had a 7.62X40 built for her on a Winchester M70....... she was a little scared at first, but after a few rounds on the range she really took to it. No recoil, no big muzzle blast, really a easy shooter for new shooters, and younger shooters. She loved it. She has not got to spend much time in the field with it yet however. It is nearly a duplicate of mine, Win M70 18 inch barrel GunKote Gray Finish. Nice little gun..........
 
I was catching up on the 100+ page HAM'R thread over on the TX Hunting forum and noticed that Lehigh Defense should be releasing a new all copper expanding bullet similar to a Barnes TSX or TAC-TX. It's a .308 cal 115gr which should work nicely in the 300 HAMR as well as a .300BLK. Often, there is nothing new under the Sun, but with the current spate of "supply chain issues" it's always nice to have options!



I believe the original notation about the base on the left side of the picture being from a 110gr controlled chaos to be incorrect and that it is in fact from a 125gr CC. The 125gr CC released earlier this year, but IMO it suffers from NOT being able to be pushed fast enough in the HAMR (only 2440fps from an 18" barrel) before running into pressure issues. I hope the 115gr does not also suffer from this issue. Based on the load notes at the top of the target pic; 2529fps from a 16" barrel is promising.
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