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An actual issue with steel case 9mm

Discussion in 'Firearm Accessories Talk' started by Jayne, Dec 25, 2019.

  1. Jayne

    Jayne Just here for the memes Charter Member Supporting Member

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    Just today I finally had my first real issue with steel case 9mm. Round number 26,125 (give or take) in my G34 fired... then the gun went 'click' and was locked up solid. I'm used to rounds not going off on the first strike (those primers are hard) but never has it locked up on me. Couldn't get the slide open and there was a live round in the chamber. After some rednecking around we got it open and found this:

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    It didn't go into the magazine like that (I always inspect primers as I load the mags out of habit, sorta the last QC check on my handloads) so the primer must have backed out a bit under recoil. When it fed into the chamber it must have acted over length and smashed the case mouth into the lands? Something made it not let me open the slide.

    The scary part is this:


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    It was fully in battery and dropped the striker and hit the primer, so had it gone off... I suspect things would have come apart rapidly.

    Very odd that it's the stuff with the sealed primers. So much for "mil spec". Although I suspect the Russian spec isn't all that tight.

    Good thing I've saved enough vs. brass to have paid for the gun! :)

    Put another 100 or so through it after this finishing up practice and the gun was no worse for the wear.

    At home I added up the 9mm steel case I've used across all the guns, looks like I'm just over 33k total. Damn, you would think I would be a better shot by now.
     
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  2. Windini

    Windini SWDD Charter Life Member

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    Glad you didn't get blowed up!

    There's no chance it went "pfft" instead of "click?" If the charging hole in the case was blocked or not drilled, could it have been the primer going off with nowhere for the spark pressure to go that pushed in out the head of the case?

    Maybe the russkie QC problem was in the steel case. If you saved the round, yank it apart, empty it out, and peek inside.
     
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  3. John

    John Member Benefactor Charter Life Member

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    The primer looks riveted in the pic. Is it possible the primer backed out, the slide riveted it, then when the firing pin hit it didn't get a good hit on the anvil? Like Windini says, I would take that one apart and look it over closely. Check the primer pocket on the case closely if possible.
     
  4. JT

    JT What good shall I do this day? Benefactor Life Member Supporting Member

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    :eek:
     
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    Catfish E Pluribus Mendacium Charter Member

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    The anvil is part of the case in berdan primed stuff. Probably the only reason it didnt go bang.
     
  6. Millie

    Millie Life is short....get on with it!! Supporting Member

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    And this is why I'm scared to start reloading! I'm an airhead!
    Glad you didn't blow your ass up!
     
  7. BatteryOaksBilly

    BatteryOaksBilly A SHOOTER Benefactor Life Member Supporting Member

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    After reading this earlier, I went out and shot a seven round mag of steel cased military ammo in a 1918 Government model Colt. The ammo was dated 1943. Both gun and ammo older than me and still working as designed. I ain't.
     
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  8. Windini

    Windini SWDD Charter Life Member

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    If you're like most of the rest of us, there's a good chance the ammo was... er "stored" more properly than us! :)
     
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    Well if he knew he was gonna last this long he woulda took better care of himself. LOL
     
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  10. Sigequinox220

    Sigequinox220 Active Member Benefactor

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    1 in 26k aint six sigma, but that isn't half bad either. I shoot lots of steel cased ammo myself. For the price, I'm okay with that failure rate.
     
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