LOL,,, Good comments from all. Brake and carb cleaner works well if you can hit them but I swear they can see the spray coming at them and they just dodge out of the way. Ive got a trap and its about an inch and a half worth of dead ones in there, maybe I will try some honey like Member Saiga 12 suggested? Tried a badminton racket but they are hard to find in this lil backwater town, the one I did find that was on of those dumb kid friendly ones that are sort of cloth covered. Not effective on bees but easy on the dumb kids when they wack each other with them. Shot shells in area is not a good idea,, I sort of live in the hood and will have answering fire from 9 MM's real fast. Will try the honey and find a better more lethal badminton racquet. Thanks all..