ANyone have experience with the Kel-Tec Bull Pup KSG?

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I have a friend asking me about this and I have never held one, much less shot one. I would at least like to know what the recoil is like. She is a small framed woman, but tough as hell. I am sure she can handle anything that it throws at her, but she said she wanted to avoid recoil. She also is newer to firearms, but wants a shot gun for home protection. Specific comments about this SG would be much appreciated.,
 
Elenaidan said:
I have a friend asking me about this and I have never held one, much less shot one. I would at least like to know what the recoil is like. She is a small framed woman, but tough as hell. I am sure she can handle anything that it throws at her, but she said she wanted to avoid recoil. She also is newer to firearms, but wants a shot gun for home protection. Specific comments about this SG would be much appreciated.,
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870 youth 20 .
 
Any pump shotgun is going to have stout recoil. 20 gauge is a great option, but so is reduced recoil 12 gauge.

The only way to really mitigate the mechanical recoil of a shotgun is to change the load you're firing, or change the action (semi auto vs pump)
 
A close friend won one in a raffle. It’s a novelty shotgun. Low recoil it is not! It’s a pump action 12ga, it’s gonna have recoil.

The benefits are what you’d expect, compact bullpup design and high capacity. The build quality isn’t spectacular, it takes some getting used to, to operate efficiently.

One option for low recoil in a compact shotgun might be Aguila mini shells in a Tac14/Shockwave. However, I’m not sure how reliably they run.
 
I have a KS7, the single tube version of the KSG. It recoils like any lightweight 12 gauge that isn't semi-auto. It's... stout.

The KSG is also heavy when it's loaded.

Neither of those things make for a good choice for someone who's small and recoil sensitive.

Also "newer to firearms" is not who you want relying on something with an extra strange manual of arms. I would suggest a standard style pump first, learn to actually run the weapon well before dealing with the oddities of the KSG/KS7 or any bullpup shotgun. Those who haven't tried to run one at speed will say it's the same. They are wrong.
 
Ben Jefferson said:
My wife is small too and we had to resort go an 870 youth in 20 gauge as @Walkabout Dan stated. I tried many 12g combinations and the backlash was just too much for the little women with any decent ammunition.
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I remember when mossburg came out with the pistol grip 500. Everyone had to have one . After a couple of 3 in buckshots they stopped shooting them anymore.
 
I had one for a brief time …

Liked the bore being in line with stock … made for easier recoil management. It‘s weight distribution and was balanced nicely. But you have to you adjust point of aim style due to the alignment compared to a standard stock style … I tended to run a little high. As to using a red dot … it ate a Vortex in less than 3 months. Vortex did honor the warranty … so BUIS might be best.

Liked the 14+1 capacity but hated the loading function … just awkward feeling.

The action was okay but just didn’t feel as positive as my other standard configuration pumps. It had a clunky feel on the loading end of the cycle like it was not smoothly catching the new shell out of the mag tube … it might have gotten better with time though.

The trigger was kinda mushy but for a rack and bang HD type shotgun it would do.

Before even thinking of buying one she should check the fit … the LOP might not fit a smaller statute woman and that sucks on a 12 gauge pump in feel and function.
 
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I know someone that shot his hand off with one. His foregrip either came off or it broke or his hand slipped. (Never got a concrete answer) Either way, he was pumping and shooting as fast as he could when it happened. He pulled the trigger as his left hand came back toward after the grip or his hand slipped. His hand just happened to be in front of the barrel. It was nasty.

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Scrubber3 said:
I know someone that shot his hand off with one. His foregrip either came off or it broke or his hand slipped. (Never got a concrete answer) Either way, he was pumping and shooting as fast as he could when it happened. He pulled the trigger as his left hand came back toward after the grip or his hand slipped. His hand just happened to be in front of the barrel. It was nasty.

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Pretty much all bullpups, SBR/SBS, AR/AK pistols, etc should have some form of hand stop. They are to inexpensive to not install them where your hand can slip or “wander” to far out is kind dumb. Even if it’s just the muzzle blast from a nasty brake that burns the crap out of your thumb a hand stop can help prevent it.
 
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Elenaidan said:
She also is newer to firearms, but wants a shot gun for home protection.
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This sounds like someone who really doesn't know what she wants and is most likely parroting something she heard.
She needs your help @Elenaidan. Can you take her to a range and/or field somewhere and let her try some basics?
Don't overwhelm her. If at all possible, take a S&W model 10/38spl preferably with a 4" barrel and let her shoot that and Ima bet she forgets all about this shotgun silliness.
 
Friday said:
This sounds like someone who really doesn't know what she wants and is most likely parroting something she heard.
She needs your help @Elenaidan. Can you take her to a range and/or field somewhere and let her try some basics?
Don't overwhelm her. If at all possible, take a S&W model 10/38spl preferably with a 4" barrel and let her shoot that and Ima bet she forgets all about this shotgun silliness.
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That is the plan. I think her opinions will shift a bit once she gets an introduction to some other items.
 
I am not sure exactly what to think. She said she has 6 rifles, but has doesn't know much about guns. This is going to involve some periods of discovery on my part for the rest of the story. I asked her if we could see what she has and maybe get her familiar with those first. Save her money and maybe build upon that savings for the future purchase of what she feels is a suitable HD gun.
 
Jerzsubbie said:
A close friend won one in a raffle. It’s a novelty shotgun. Low recoil it is not! It’s a pump action 12ga, it’s gonna have recoil.

The benefits are what you’d expect, compact bullpup design and high capacity. The build quality isn’t spectacular, it takes some getting used to, to operate efficiently.

One option for low recoil in a compact shotgun might be Aguila mini shells in a Tac14/Shockwave. However, I’m not sure how reliably they run.
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Mini shells run reliably in my Mossberg 500. They require an adapter that fits in the action, so you can't run them and longer shells together. They don't work in Remington actions at all, not sure about the KSG.

I think a PCC is a great tool for home defense for the recoil shy. High capacity, rapid fire, good accuracy, etc.
 
I was surprised the recoil on the Scorpion (I’m assuming 9mm PCC blow back guns feel the same), I’d like to try a delayed action (MP5 copy & Stribog).
 
Get Off My Lawn said:
I was surprised the recoil on the Scorpion (I’m assuming 9mm PCC blow back guns feel the same), I’d like to try a delayed action (MP5 copy & Stribog).
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I've got a Stribog SP9A3 you can try out.
 
Jerzsubbie said:
A close friend won one in a raffle. It’s a novelty shotgun. Low recoil it is not! It’s a pump action 12ga, it’s gonna have recoil.

The benefits are what you’d expect, compact bullpup design and high capacity. The build quality isn’t spectacular, it takes some getting used to, to operate efficiently.

One option for low recoil in a compact shotgun might be Aguila mini shells in a Tac14/Shockwave. However, I’m not sure how reliably they run.
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I second all this. Have owned one for about 4 years. Great for home defense but not something I would want to shoot for fun. Definite learning curve on getting used to operation of it. I keep a Mossberg .410 available for the wife to use for home defense when I'm not around loaded with 00 and slugs.
 
Get Off My Lawn said:
Yes! Is it wearing a can?
We don’t want to upset your neighbor.
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I'm the only idiot you know who doesn't own any suppressors. I'm waiting for the new Silencerco Kiosk to get installed at @SecundusSystems place in Pittsboro.

Anyway, I actually have two SP9A3s.... I bought one before they came out with the voluntary recall to upgrade the bolt and trigger. The one I got shot perfectly, no hiccups, so I never sent it in for the upgraded parts. Then, I saw a heck of a deal on the upgraded SP9A3, so I went ahead and bought one.

So, I have an SP9A3 with curved trigger, and another one with the flat trigger. I've been thinking about selling the one with the curved trigger because I don't ever plan to send it in for the upgrade...
 
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