Does this look rough to anyone else? I asked the seller for pictures of the rivets if there's any air behind them and how the carrier tail looks. Basically $1200 after shipping before FFL transfer. New one is around $1600 from kvar.
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Looks a bit rough to me, but I'm more of a collector these days. Seems to me if I were looking for a 'shooter', I could spend less than $1200 for an AK. If I were looking for a collector, this one is pretty rough and with aftermarket parts.
Does he have the original furniture and cleaning rod?
Does he have the original furniture and cleaning rod?
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Doubt it, it's at a pawn shop in Nevada.
I want a good candidate to get cut up by a "kalashsmith" 😂 folding rear trunion and take some length off the front end.
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Looks aight. 1200 for a 107 sadly, sounds like a halfway decent deal. I'd want to see pictures of the hammer, bolt, and carrier for sure though.
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I'd pass personally, especially not being able to inspect it in person. The 107R is NOT a 107FR minus the side folder; it's more akin to an Arsenal version of a WASR. It'll shoot, but reported issues as well as disappointing fit & finish have been far more widespread with these vs. older, more legacy Bulgarian imports from Arsenal.
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Did not realize that. Seems 107fr's are over 2k now.
Cheaper to buy a 107r and add a folder 😂 maybe that explains it then. Are the new productions 107r s having the same issues?
Wasr,just saying
i would take a WASR all day everyday over the 107. It’s kinda strange, the best Arsenal rifles were made long before they got popular. I’ve had 2 107fr’s. One was new. Fit and finsh was not good at all. The second I bought was just to flip to the fanboys who don’t shoot thier rifles. I would still buy another if it was cheap enough for me to flip for a couple hundred bucks. That’s the value of a newer Arsenal to me.
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The 107R is all pretty much new production. After imports of the FR and F (folding, missing the side rail) series of guns dried up, Arsenal kind of rushed these 107R guns to market in hopes of riding on the SLR name and legacy. They have been a relatively big disappointment or outright ignored by many in the AK community.
Now would I take one over a Riley? Of course. But I'd far rather save a bit more and/or try to trade into something with a bit more provenance and proven ability.
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Any options for something with magwell dimples that is a good host for a folding rear truinon?
I've seen 4.5mm rear trunion zpaps but everything I've read says they are a severe PITA to fit the latch on. But maybe they are being dramatic?
Slr 95?
Edit : I'm not going to bid against you I want a stamped gun was just curious. Buddy sent me one off AL the other day for $1200 in TN.
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@Squanchy, I can't believe I'm about to mention this (forgive me, papa Mikhail), but...
...have you looked at PSA's AK-104 GF5? For ~$1,200 it gets you into 7.62x39 with a side folder (triangle swaps are hella easy if/when you want to replace the polymer stock), wonderful FN cold hammer forged chrome-lined barrel, a great ALG trigger, and a pinned/welded booster to reach that magical 16". It's also a great candidate if you ever want to SBR it. Plus, you get PSA's lifetime warranty, whatever that means.
I've probably bellyached "imports > domestics" more times than anyone on CFF, but at this point, imports that check your boxes are slim pickins' unless you're ready to pony up.
I say buy the PSAK and some new Trump virtual trading cards. You get the gun setup you want now, and when the cards climb in value 100x, you trade them for a full-auto RPK or something... 🤡
...have you looked at PSA's AK-104 GF5? For ~$1,200 it gets you into 7.62x39 with a side folder (triangle swaps are hella easy if/when you want to replace the polymer stock), wonderful FN cold hammer forged chrome-lined barrel, a great ALG trigger, and a pinned/welded booster to reach that magical 16". It's also a great candidate if you ever want to SBR it. Plus, you get PSA's lifetime warranty, whatever that means.
I've probably bellyached "imports > domestics" more times than anyone on CFF, but at this point, imports that check your boxes are slim pickins' unless you're ready to pony up.
I say buy the PSAK and some new Trump virtual trading cards. You get the gun setup you want now, and when the cards climb in value 100x, you trade them for a full-auto RPK or something... 🤡
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Link? I've got $1,301 to blow.
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Actually yes, but I have SBR on the brain and idk if Im crazy enough to go through the headache for a domestic AK.
These things are disgusting btw
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Haha very kind words. I was kidding, I hope that shone through. Not going to bid, but best of luck. That thing looks very clean.
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Go crazy. Not sure if you have any NFA stuff but it's not as intimidating or difficult as some folks make it out to be. It's also not hard to remove SBRs from the registry if something changes in your life.
And the cards, 100% agree. Woof.
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Just one 30 cal suppressor, my ar is pinned to 16" oal.
In my brain I need an AK to be shorter and folding. I have this weird affliction with "krink style" aks. Buddy told me it was because I look like an Iraqi and it's in my blood...
I probably should shave this facial hair is patchy.
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I don't know, man ... maybe Star Wars it up, go all in, and embrace your dark side (but in 7.62x39).
Mine was a long time coming. I LOVE it ... to me it is peak AK.
This is an Arsenal SLR-104UR w/ fake can. I'm very hesitant to SBR it - I've remember it used to be a somewhat popular SBR/Suppressor host, but the prices for these have skyrocketed.
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They are unobtainium.
Why is there a cult like following for arsenals but other countries no one seems to care about?
Why is there a cult like following for arsenals but other countries no one seems to care about?
I think Arsenal makes/made a very good rifle (I don't know about any of their newer stuff), and many/most models were made in Bulgaria in the same factory as the rifles made for their military. There's not too many brand-new AK's out there that are assembled overseas on foreign-made, military receivers. But I can't explain why rifles like the milled Arsenal SAS M-7 Classic underfolder are also jumping in price as they were built here (Vegas).
Most people who want a basic AK aren't paying $2000 - $3000 for one. And there are many collectors who won't touch U.S.-made receivers on parts kits (even though their value has also leaped up).
I think the readily available (for now) Zastavas may be the next Norincos.
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In short ... FOMO. Folks forget that when the SLR-104 for example was widely available and already cheap spam cans of 7N6 were always on sale, not a lot of people were buying them. I was one of those people. "Who needs yucky corrosive ammo when there is so much good 7.62x39 ammo out there?" "Do I really want to invest in another caliber, and have to buy new mags for it? AK-74 mags are $20+ each ... too expensive for my blood." Current me meeting past me:
Russian stuff still typically commands a premium over most other eastern bloc variants (especially those krink kits), but as @Dan0311 mentioned, Arsenal was one of the few factories with strong western marketing and following, churning out factory Russian and Bulgarian commercial guns built right alongside their third-pin cousins. When that stuff dried up, somewhat coinciding with federal embargoes on stuff like 7N6, Saigas, and VEPRs, many American AK fans (like me) freaked out and scrambled to catch up. Dwindling supply using means higher demand, and that dwindle has never really ceased.
Will a $3,000 Arsenal SGL shoot better than a $750 WASR? Not really. Is the quality fundamentally better? Um, kinda? So besides the collectibility aspect, FOMO has to play some part in why I'd rather have one more Russian AK vs. four more Romanians.
I had a wasr (sold to a friend for $475 a couple years ago/bad move on my part) and still have the slr-107fr. Took both to the range to do a side-by-side comparison. Both shot the same out to 100, couldn't go any further at the range. Wasr tapco G2 trigger was better than factory Arsenal so I put an ALG in it which took away all the squishy take up. Both had crappy AK sights. I would not hesitate buying a Wasr and use the savings for better sights, mags, optics.