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So, basically, like DWI'S are only for poor people ( because if your rich enough , have a good enough lawyer....), ar15's should only be for rich people.... sounds legit.
How about we start taxing golf clubs... I mean, they make great bludgeons.... and if it makes them harder for criminals to access them, its what the law is for right? 200$ per stamp, per club is more then reasonable....
But hey, its not like its a right or anything. Right?
Don’t think Congress is one bit concerned about an onslaught of golf club assaults but then there is the possibility of it being on the list somewhere well below the current AR concerns.
.....so what your saying is, we just go down the list, until we get there? Sounds about right.
No one has a right to semi autos.
No one has a right to anything that can fire more then 6 shots through manuel actions.
No one needs weapons that can be loaded with fixed ammuntion.
No one needs missle weapons like bows or cross bows.
No one needs sling shots.
No one needs smooth, easily thrown rocks.
No one needs knives.
No one needs a heavy object capable of being used as a bludgeon
No one needs opposable thumbs.
But then again, it sounds like you dont care until it affects you. And you dont seem to have any dog in the fight until YOUR situation is inconvenienced.... or you have enough cash to not care.
Congratulations. Enjoy your days, and may your chains rest lightly upon you.
I guess I’ll just wait and see what happens. I will not react to possibilities, rather to clear and purposeful actions that will cause my home harm. So far all I see is a lot of accusations and not enough facts to cause me to go about in a frenzy of indecision being displayed by both sides of our divided country.
Exactly. The citizens of the USA have been letting this crap go on since about 1914 or so. We’re accustomed to it now. Going to take a major shake up to change things. War, depression or worse.
You wont "React to possibilities"?
But you WILL react to "clear and purposeful actions that will cause your home harm".....
So what you mean is unless it bothers you, it is not your problem.
Alot of people are already making decisions.... some of them even like making decisions for EVERYONE... Hey, someone HAS to know best, for everyone, right...
Its nice to not care I suppose. But atleast its convenient for you.
And maybe others shouldn't put their limitations on other people.
Why not enjoy your Golf.
Atleast until the day comes when someone decides for you that its not important to them, so that its ok to take that away from you.
No, the Act did not.
What actually "served its purpose" was catching and prosecuting those who committed the malum in se criminal acts...not John Q. Public.
The rich, the privileged, and the ruling class have always tried to keep the masses unarmed. There is nothing new about that, just the weapons have changed. You didn't have a sword unless you were nobility or in the employ of one.
It is why we preach that the entire Constitution is dependent upon the 2nd Ammendment. The inability to effect change is the death sentence for Liberty. The People's ability to make changes is secured by their ability to fight against any and all oppressors of their Liberty, foreign or domestic. The more we consent to the infringements of our Rights, the more power we give to those who would deny us our Liberty.
I don't believe Thomas Jefferson would be very proud of our lack of vigilance in trying to keep the Republic that the Founding Fathers created.
It is why we preach that the entire Constitution is dependent upon the 2nd Ammendment. The inability to effect change is the death sentence for Liberty. The People's ability to make changes is secured by their ability to fight against any and all oppressors of their Liberty, foreign or domestic. The more we consent to the infringements of our Rights, the more power we give to those who would deny us our Liberty.
I don't believe Thomas Jefferson would be very proud of our lack of vigilance in trying to keep the Republic that the Founding Fathers created.
Ever seen the movie ‘The Survivors’?.....what once was comedy is now truism. Who would have ever thought we would get this far down the drain but here we are and I bet there is a movie currently showing the end result as well. Sadly, we’re all pointing fingers at one another for reasons out of our control.
Name one mass murder event that has happen since the Act was law and I can name you ten that transpired from the lack of that same law. That’s not my thoughts, that’s the current thinking of the average citizen in our country and no amount of rebuttals is going to change their fears. The vast majority of this country is more than willing to give up any claims to the right of AR ownership and our government, bright scholars that they are, are thinking of a way to not infringe on your rights and in the same turn stop the shootings. Now, what is the solution?...lock up all the threats or take the AR’s of the streets. My money is on the AR loosing it’s status and yes, that will not be the end of it, no law can stop the killings. My crystal ball says the future of our country is written in the past history of Germany’s fall to nazism if we ain’t very careful and so far careful is not our strongest asset.
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Better idea:
How 'bout you just support your own idea?
It's not my job to support your own suppositions.
The thinking of the average citizen is irrelevant in this country and their fears do not pertain to the matter. The vast majority is wrong and cannot give up our claims to "unalienable" rights. The individual can choose what they will do with their right, but they cannot tell me what I can do with mine. We are a Republic first, then a democracy. Come to think of it, what did the vast majority of the population think about rebelling against England? Was our Declaration of Independence based on the popular vote?
"our government, bright scholars that they are, are thinking of a way to not infringe on your rights"
I have only been on this planet for 50 years, but in all my time here, I have never seen any form of government, federal, state, county, city, HOA or Gun Club officers, who didn't jump at the chance to infringe on somebody's rights. Power corrupts; it is as true today is it was when it was first voiced. People in power look for ways to use that power, which will ultimately infringe on a right. The question is always whether the people will accept or fight the infringement. The more the constituent capitulates, the more the oppressor will usurp.
When the government usurps its authority, it is the responsibility of the Patriot to remove that authority and place it where it will be used correctly. Everything I have read about the founding of this great country leads me to that conclusion. If not so, then I have no idea what we did in 1776. We threw off shackles! The men that decided we should be free tried to create a system of government that would ensure that freedom. However, they warned us, we would have to work to keep it. As a whole, this country has slowly allowed shackles to take hold again. The real question is, what would a Patriot do now?
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Maybe, but there’s many who aren’t. Additionally, those who do not believe in the right of free citizens to own an AR, or any other weapon, do not get to make that choice for the rest of us...
NEITHER...DOES....GOVT.
Eh...doubt it. It is the most popular rifle in America and I do not see it going anywhere....there are millions of them in the hands of the people and that is where they are going to stay....unregistered and untaxed.
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Pastor Martin Niemöller
When the Nazis came for the communists,I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
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Does it though? Have any statistics to prove the "Act" removed machine guns from criminal hands? Truly curious. Hell, I would enjoy seeing the statistics of how many criminals/crimes used full auto anything, ever. Compared to "gun crime" overall. Compared to crime in general.
As is tradition "feel good" legislation does nothing more than make it more difficult to be a "good" citizen. While also ensuring that the "poor's" (I R one) certainly will not have the means to fund the government mandated compliance fees....
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🤔 What? Did you just talk about my momma?
Best I can figure, your either a true, old schooler who lived through the roots of Nascar. Which I doubt since Nascar was formed from good ol' boys trafficking 'shine (illegally), coming together to prove who had the fastest 'runner.
Or your an incredibly intelligent, know it all, 20something grad student at some college who is doing everything in your power to prove your thesis...
Oh, the irony of this statement coming from you.
A lot of people in this thread have posed some very specific questions or statements to you, and the best response you can muster is an old joke about a 12th grade Arkansas reading test (LIB, MR Ducks) or whichever variant thereof.
Most semi-intelligent people stop talking about something once they've overplayed their bluff and allowed their ignorance to show, but you on the other hand.....
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@OldNascar,
Just wanna throw this out there and give you a little sumpin’ to chew on...
Were you standing in a line, muzzle in your back and some goon shouting at you to “Get on the train”, there are folks on this forum that would pick up their AR, put their ass on the line and commence to smoking MFers to keep YOU off that train, for no other reason than you being an American citizen.
Think about that for a bit.
Just wanna throw this out there and give you a little sumpin’ to chew on...
Were you standing in a line, muzzle in your back and some goon shouting at you to “Get on the train”, there are folks on this forum that would pick up their AR, put their ass on the line and commence to smoking MFers to keep YOU off that train, for no other reason than you being an American citizen.
Think about that for a bit.
Given his admissions ( oldnascar ) I believe he ( in fact ) will be sticking his muzzle in our backs, ordering us to get on the train.
Look, if you had just done what you were told, you could have been a train conductor as well. It has great benefits provided by the state. All you have to do is completely follow orders, do exactly as told, and turn in anyone who may even >think< about dissenting against the king.
When y'all are done with this pointless task, can you come reason my dog out of eating her own feces?
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Truthfully? I do not think OldNascar is a kid. At all.
I think he just really, Truly, thinks he "Knows Best" for whatever reason.
I disagree with his assessments in this thread, but thats ok.
He has every Right to say what he believes in. It is a founding principle.... 1st amendment and all.
Just like the 2nd is.
Maybe one day he will "get" it, but most likely he wont.... Human nature at work.
A Tyranny born of an honest "goodwill" is monstrous though. It truly is.
As an aside, Ive always found the "Ok, Boomer" thing as a kind if petty insult.... the kind of thing people like to use to divide people.
Ive known many, good, well meaning people who would be "Boomers", My Father, and Mother for two.
So I dont use it as an insult.
Yeah, I would like to see some actual numbers on how many criminals were ever prosecuted based on having a machine gun. Not people having been turned into criminals by having something. I suspect this solution was always more in search of a problem than really needed.
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I am well aware of his alleged age. For someone who has avoided answering direct questions, wished others would die so he could play golf, gladly sided with those who would trample our rights, and insulted members of this forum, hypocritically called out the forum for having too many off topic discussions and then participating in 99.9% of them, as well as a few other fabulously obnoxious things, I figured "kid" was being polite and allow me to retain my membership here as opposed to referring to him in a most unChristian, yet completely accurate way,.
And as far as him having a "right" to what he believes...he absolutely does. But the King believed he had a right to rule the colonies, Stalin believed he had a right to crush his people, Pol Pot believed deeply in massacring millions of his own people, the drug cartels believe deeply in the efficacy of drugs as a manner of earning a living, Jeffery Dahmer believed that eating people was a wholesome meal. Just because someone has a right to believe something doesnt mean that their "belief" should be allowed to fester into fruition.