Influencers Josh & Sarah Bowmar Plead Guilty in Nebraska Poaching Case
After a years-long stagnation in the infamous poaching case, Josh and Sarah Bowmar change their plea to guilty and are given a sentencing date.
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Don’t hang her, she has some pretty eyes. 😉People with teeth that white should be hanged.
Where I grew up and learned to hunt baiting deer is illegal, and not considered honorable hunting. I still stick to the ways I was taught as a young hunter.What's the difference between poaching and hunting on some of these stocked/groomed ranches outside of the legality of it?
Hey, if you as a person wants to pay for it, who cares?You mean people actually pay attention to these idiots? What's the difference between poaching and hunting on some of these stocked/groomed ranches outside of the legality of it? The hunting that 99% of the population does and the hunting you see on TV, magazines and the internet are two totally different things.
They did accomplish one thing though, making every hunter everywhere look bad.
Honorable hunting, what the heck is that?Where I grew up and learned to hunt baiting deer is illegal, and not considered honorable hunting. I still stick to the ways I was taught as a young hunter.
If you don't know the difference you probably never will... No skin off my teeth.Honorable hunting, what the heck is that?
Hey, if you as a person wants to pay for it, who cares?
No skin off my teeth.
Hunting, shooting, killing, stabbing, knifing, shafting, darting how does any of this make any one of us look bad.
It’s like saying the guy that robbed food lion makes grocery shoppers look bad.
If they broke the law, fine, charge them.
I have heard they shot them in the guts with a .22 so they run off and die on other peoples land.We all love freedom until it comes to what we care about. IMO as long as we keep control of the total population of animals the rest is totally immaterial.
Is everyone here aware of what farmers do when killing deer on a depredation permit? They stack bodies by whatever means necessary.
That is not the way the farmer used to kill them on our farm. There would be dead deer all around and in the bean fields when the beans were small. He had to leave them where they fell back then unless he wanted to jump through some hoops to get the meat. He hated killing them but also hated for them to destroy all his beans. My uncle and I would get out there at night on our 4 wheelers with pesticide jugs containing some pennies. Shaking those things at them seemed to scare them worse than gunfire. You could dust their behinds at 75 yards with small bird shot, but they would come right back out into the fields.I have heard they shot them in the guts with a .22 so they run off and die on other peoples land.
Now there’s a place for people to show their disdain.
That was things I heard from guys that used to do it. I like your farmers way much better.That is not the way the farmer used to kill them on our farm. There would be dead deer all around and in the bean fields when the beans were small. He had to leave them where they fell back then unless he wanted to jump through some hoops to get the meat. He hated killing them but also hated for them to destroy all his beans. My uncle and I would get out there at night on our 4 wheelers with pesticide jugs containing some pennies. Shaking those things at them seemed to scare them worse than gunfire. You could dust their behinds at 75 yards with small bird shot, but they would come right back out into the fields.
Some people no doubt did it as you described. I do not mind killing but hate to cause prolonged suffering.That was things I heard from guys that used to do it. I like your farmers way much better.
Exactly, I was taught respect the animals you hunt because they have more freedom than you will ever have….and no Fred Bear wasn’t my father(his quote not my dad) but my dad idolized him and put me on his pathway of thinking.Where I grew up and learned to hunt baiting deer is illegal, and not considered honorable hunting. I still stick to the ways I was taught as a young hunter.
Honorable hunting, what the heck is that?
The same people who cry about hunting over corn or near a feeder will have no problem hunting next to a corn field, a white oak or persimmon tree or any other place a deer will feed.
Im with you, what pride is there in going iut and spotlighting deer just to get a big racked buck and then have to lie about how you got him. Just a bunch of glory hogs !What many don't know is that a hundred years ago wildlife as we know it today did not exist. Deer were eliminated from many areas, as were elk, pronghorn, and many other species we take for granted today, even waterfowl. It took the concerted effort of hunters who pushed congress into enacting laws to protect and restore our wildlife. We, as hunters, paid for our wildlife resources through PR funding and the purchase of licenses and tags. That's what I push on all of the libtards out there who want to "save" our wildlife. How much did you spend last year on wildlife management? Did you even buy a duck stamp? Most likely not. That's why I despise poachers. They are nothing but thieves. They steal from those of us who cherish our wildlife resources and our hunting heritage.
I actually know people who have done just that or shoot a big buck in a pen for big $$ and hang the heads over their fireplace and brag about it. Talk about one shallow worthless human being.Im with you, what pride is there in going iut and spotlighting deer just to get a big racked buck and then have to lie about how you got him. Just a bunch of glory hogs !
The elitist ideas in this thread are troubling.To me, hunting isn’t about sport against a stupid animal. It’s more akin to grocery shopping. I have a sizable piece of property and the deer are a nuisance with an overpopulation problem. Other animals can be a pain as well, and I didn’t plant a garden for their enjoyment or raise chickens for their dinner.
While wildlife population management has demonstrated itself as being necessary, I am not a supporter of govt. law enforcement in principle, especially in light of how politicized and one sided policing has become, and that goes for the bunny police as well.
Basically the 2 were not really up on the hunting laws … they were Social Media People being lead on a canned hunt and videoing it looking for followers, likes, etc that meant dollars in their pockets … they were not hunters they were paying a guy to help them video themselves shooting a turkey. They just so happened to go on a Hidden Hills Outfitters (Google them and see the crap the outfitters pulled beyond this case) hunt … as did over 2 dozen other “hunters” who had charges brought against them because of similar HHO hunts because the owner is a POS who violates wildlife regulations and ethics to make a dollar. The real crime these 2 committed was impersonating a sportsman hunter, being plain stupid and not knowing the laws they needed to involving hunting in a certain state.
Hunting is not a sport. The look at me, I sit in the rain and the cold and watch squirrels (no offense @thrillhill ) crowd thinks this is the only way to kill deer.
As best as I understand it the District Court Feds are the ones structuring for the plea deal under the Lacy Act (interstate transportation violation of game taken in violation of state laws) … the couple is one of many. Apparently the real target was HHO and the couple along with others who hired HHO got caught in the overall case … kinda like John’s get charged when a Whorehouse is raided. The owner of HHO is looking at 3 years jail time and about $300k plus restitution to Nebraska Wildlife … this goes back a long way and he knew he was messing with the regulations.Be nice to know what the Charge was. Because honestly, I can't make heads or tails of that plea document and the charges section is so much state legal gibberish it's impossible to tell what it's really about. Could be that it's cheaper to plead down than keep fighting. A lot of these are not admissions of guilt, they are admissions of an empty bank account. They are getting all of their property and wildlife mounts back so it's not that.
I once felt the same. Now not so much. Now before all of you start hating on me let me explain. By the time I spend money on a hunting license, ammo, gas, trips to a range to sight in, scouting in public or private land, stand acquisition and setup, scopes, bows, muzzloader, scent cover, weather appropriate clothing, etc....... I may only get two or three days out of that season to harvest an animal. If hunting public lands.... cut that down to 1 day of good hunting, if no one walks in on you or sets up next to you. Even at that the scouting has to be spot on because you will have no way to alter the paths of the game through coursing them out of their normal routine. For several years I leased 200 acres and had corn feeders on four plots and the plots planted with natural forage to the cost of almost $3500.00 per year. I never harvested more than five animals a year (that includes the people I had taken with me).Where I grew up and learned to hunt baiting deer is illegal, and not considered honorable hunting. I still stick to the ways I was taught as a young hunter.
What many don't know is that a hundred years ago wildlife as we know it today did not exist. Deer were eliminated from many areas, as were elk, pronghorn, and many other species we take for granted today, even waterfowl. It took the concerted effort of hunters who pushed congress into enacting laws to protect and restore our wildlife. We, as hunters, paid for our wildlife resources through PR funding and the purchase of licenses and tags. That's what I push on all of the libtards out there who want to "save" our wildlife. How much did you spend last year on wildlife management? Did you even buy a duck stamp? Most likely not. That's why I despise poachers. They are nothing but thieves. They steal from those of us who cherish our wildlife resources and our hunting heritage.
LOL! Hang on now, I only watch em long enough to get the right shot!
I'm not a "Sportsman" when it comes to hunting or fishing. If that's your thing, more power to you.
I think they now call people like me "sustenance" hunters as opposed to "sportsmen".
There is SOME overlap. We make a lot of brush piles with rabbit and quail in mind and don't hunt for either one. I try to bush-hog in such a way as to leave or form habitat for a variety of species that we don't hunt.
Sustenance hunting for me is still a little different from the "shoot em all" or "if it's brown it's down" folks. There are numerous young bucks I let walk every year. Watched a 4 pointer wandering around this morning clueless as hell. And once again, not throwing stones in that direction either. You do you. I've been invited to farms before where the stipulation was that you killed the first deer you saw. I did, and would gladly go back again.
I don't care to pay for a hunt, but I don't automatically look down on those that do. Depends on how you present the info to me. It may just mean that you and I have less in common than our living room walls would suggest.
There are some stands I bait and some stands I don't. As mentioned upstream, I view it as grocery shopping. Sometimes corn is the price of fuel to get to town in this analogy. As long as I get a good return on the investment, I'll have at it. And that investment has very little to do with antlers.
Where/when I grew up hunting we couldn't afford tree stands. I couldn't even afford the lumber to build them.
So in my opinion if you are hunting from a stand you are not an honorable hunter.
Where/when I grew up hunting we didn't have access to compound bows with 90% let off and a trigger on your wrist that has very little or nothing at all to do with traditional archery. Nevertheless a crossbow.
So if you aren't using a naked longbow during archery season you are not an honorable hunter.
Where/when I grew up hunting we didn't have in-line muzzleloaders/holographic sights/scent blocker clothes/powder pellets/209 primer ignition/rifles that shot farther than a .30-30/laser rangefinders/realtree camo/carbon fiber bow sights/therma-cells/whisker biscuits/mechanical broadheads/cell phones with the weather app/side by side UTVs/4 wheelers/ballistic tip rifle bullets/suppressors/sniper rifle chassis/doe piss from Amazon/$60,000 trucks with heated seats/ and "hunting leases".
So if you use any of the above you are not an honorable hunter. LOLOLOLOLOL!
Yeah.
My biggest hunting culture pet peeve centers around "sportsmen" but I'm not stupid enough to lump them all in together.
It gets on my last nerve to drive by the local diner mid-Saturday morning and see a $80,000 truck parked there, pulling an trailer with two $25,000 UTVs on it.
I know they are "Sportsmen" and they are from Raleigh, and the are paying $3,000 per year to lease 20 acres from a farmer up the road who I used to help cut his firewood every year in return for hunting rights.
Luckily I've got my own place now and plenty to hunt, but they have "priced out" the local kids from the edge of town that normally would have had access. I don't blame the farmer, he'll pay his property tax with that money.
I blame those goofy dang hunting shows. I hate them all.
"Bow hunt or die BABY". Well, drop dead for all I care.
"Thompson Center Gettin it Done BABY". 🤮
"Smoked him". No you didn't. You shot halfway back into the rib cage.
I looked at my 20 year old daughter a while back after a youtube clip and said when I have ever looked over at you after killing something and high fived and said "Wohoo! DPMS BABY". "The Wilson Combat Smoked him". Squirrel falls from the tree "Ruger BABY. Smoked him!". 🤮 Makes me wanna drink and take pain pills and forget that I know any white people.
So yeah, I hate those shows. I hate a SEGMENT of the "sportsmen" group for even existing. Without all that high-fiving garbage media the folks from town wouldn't even be out here making it harder on the up and coming HUNTERS. Driving $100,000 rig lets me know you want a big buck or two because I could buy a LOT of beef with what you spend.
I'm a red blooded male. I get just as excited as the next guy about a big buck. But it's secondary to why I'm out there. Bragging rights are not why I'm in the woods. But the "sportsmen" are the first ones to talk trash to the sustenance hunters, not the other way around. Same with fishing.
An honorable hunter to me is one that stays in his/her lane and doesn't abuse a resource. I can certainly not watch those goofy shows. Other than that, if it's legal, and you aren't trespassing on me, and I don't see you taking only half the meat off a kill, I ain't gonna say nothin to ya.
As I was reading that Simple Man came on my Pandora feed. Coincidence? Or a higher power? 😳
The word "poaching" can have several meanings. The monarch does own all the wild game in some political systems. The common person has no right to the game. Killing the King's deer is poaching.5. Poaching is a coined phrase by absolute monarchs denying the people the rights to harvest animals. Nobody has a monopoly on wildlife.
A few months ago, I trapped an opossum that was getting into my chicken coop and killing them. I went out in the back yard, pointed a handgun at its head and squeezed the trigger. It was the first time I ever used a firearm with the intent of taking a life. It changes you, even if it is subtle. I took no joy in doing so, but it was just one of those farm life tasks that needed doing.I looked at my 20 year old daughter a while back after a youtube clip and said when I have ever looked over at you after killing something and high fived and said "Wohoo! DPMS BABY".