Looking to buy my first can. Current budget is 800, including the stamp, so really only 600. Main goal is for a 5.56 ar. 16inch. Would be nice to have adaptability down the road in case I get a 300bo upper at some point. Better to just get dedicated can or something like the yhm r9 ? Obviously I don't think the r9 is going to make the 5.56 hearing safe but is any can really hearing safe on a 556?
Best can for my $800 budget?
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That's my point, I guess what's the benefit of whichever dedicated 556 can in my price range vs that of the r9 that will handle 556 300bo and 9mm?
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No benefit I see especially if you have something other than 556 as a host. 556 never gets quiet as mentioned above.
Because it’s the internet I’ll suggest that you spend a chunk of your budget on the best suppressed caliber ever, 22lr, and save longer for your first rifle can.
Well, $530 + stamp only leaves $70 in his budget and it’ll be hard to squeeze another can and stamp in that.
Have you shot the polonium? If user servicable it’d probably serve on a 22lr rifle.
The issue is a limited budget.
The multi caliber cans are very versatile but will never be as efficient as a dedicated caliber can.
556 tends to be pretty loud (similar to a 22LR) when fired through a very efficient can because of the supersonic boom created by the bullet flying, not the gun going “bang!”
Many 556 cans can also be used for 22LR with great effect, but you will want to make sure the can is user serviceable because nothing will foul up your can quicker than dirty rounds like 22LR.
It is possible to buy or make subsonic 556/223 but at that point the round is so anemic you’re better off using a 22LR
9mm cans tend to be very quiet, particularly with 147 gr subsonic loads.
I personally recommend AAC, SilencerCo, Sig, Dead Air…
There are a myriad of excellent choices.
The multi caliber cans are very versatile but will never be as efficient as a dedicated caliber can.
556 tends to be pretty loud (similar to a 22LR) when fired through a very efficient can because of the supersonic boom created by the bullet flying, not the gun going “bang!”
Many 556 cans can also be used for 22LR with great effect, but you will want to make sure the can is user serviceable because nothing will foul up your can quicker than dirty rounds like 22LR.
It is possible to buy or make subsonic 556/223 but at that point the round is so anemic you’re better off using a 22LR
9mm cans tend to be very quiet, particularly with 147 gr subsonic loads.
I personally recommend AAC, SilencerCo, Sig, Dead Air…
There are a myriad of excellent choices.
You will VERY quickly find yourself getting into other dedicated cans in lieu of a do-all, especially now with wait times that are in hours/days and not months.
For 5.56 you'll be wearing ear pro anyways. The Polonium cans are great - I went with the Polonium K because they're lighter, shorter, and there isn't much difference in sound suppression, but they are a good bit less gassy than the full size. Tradeoff is flash suppression if you care about night shooting.
The Lahar 30's sound/perform great, but they are noticeably heavier than all of my other cans. Built like tanks, though.
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Reason for thinking the r9 route is looking into getting a 9mm pcc type setup at some point in the hopeful near future, and the r9 could stay on that for HD, and also go on the AR for range trips until I can get a dedicated 556 can
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The R9 is almost 3.5 oz heavier than something like an Omega 9K, which is stupid quiet on a PCC with subs.
Good budget 556 is a YMH Turbo T3. I have a T2 it’s a good can for an AR.
5.56 sucks suppressed compared to anything but big bores. Still better than unsuppressed though! OCL Polonium is arguably the best at it right now in the price range and damn good compared to higher costing cans.
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I don’t think I’d say it sucks. I have a 10.5” that’s about as pleasant to shoot as you could ask for. I wear plugs no matter what, so it’s not an issue.
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Eh…I have a couple of 10.3 setups and a 14.5 rig, all suppressed by dedicated 5.56 cans (YHM T3/Turbo K)…Other than canned rimfire, ‘bout as good as it gets..to me anyhow.
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go with a 30 cal can. 223 dedicated cans are nice but less versatile and tend to be trickier to get the gas dialed in on a semiauto rifle. The differences in sound are imperceptible and I’ve seen 30 cal cans actually quieter because they create less port pop on an auto loading rifle. In terms of specific cans, if you want something to move between rifles then the mounting system is a major consideration. I use the dead air keymo and the YHM mounting systems, both of which have been 100% reliable for me. Many people use them incorrectly and then whine about it. For example, YHM primary lockup is between the threads and taper with the ratchet mechanism as a secondary. However people really focus on the ratchet and incorrectly undertighten the can to the mount.
Overall I actually prefer direct thread cans as the weight of mounts is removed and there’s more can volume, but they’re less versatile and I’m probably in the minority on this one.
In terms of specific cans, I’d say whatever there are tons of good options. Just research your mounting system, costs, adapters, etc before committing.
Bolt action 223 can be extremely quiet especially if the barrel is over 20 inches. My Ruger American predator 22 inch with a YHM turbo K is shockingly pleasant to shoot. Supersonic crack is present but that’s about it. Quieter than anything 300 blackout semi auto I’ve used including my 300 blk handloads that are as quiet as I can get while still cycling the action.
Overall I actually prefer direct thread cans as the weight of mounts is removed and there’s more can volume, but they’re less versatile and I’m probably in the minority on this one.
In terms of specific cans, I’d say whatever there are tons of good options. Just research your mounting system, costs, adapters, etc before committing.
Bolt action 223 can be extremely quiet especially if the barrel is over 20 inches. My Ruger American predator 22 inch with a YHM turbo K is shockingly pleasant to shoot. Supersonic crack is present but that’s about it. Quieter than anything 300 blackout semi auto I’ve used including my 300 blk handloads that are as quiet as I can get while still cycling the action.
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I’m probably gonna get fragged for this, but I’m _very_ happy with the multi-cal Liberty Mystic X kit (suppressor + 4 mounts) I picked up for $555 at gunzonedeals last year. (It’s up to $605 now, but I’ve noticed they sometimes float down $30-$40 over time.) Stainless 11-baffle core, titanium tube, great warranty.
Excellent full-length 9mm can on PCC’s & pistols. Had to get the booster for pistols, obviously. Useful on carbine-length AR’s, but a dedicated, decent length can will be better. (As people have pointed out, 5.56 AR’s are always gonna be loud; bolts can be pretty quiet.) Does a lot of things really quite well. Pretty easily maintained if you don’t just let it go on really dirty calibers (lookin’ at you, .22LR!). I’m itching to try it out on my new 8.5” 300BO upper with 220gr subs & 150gr supers.
OP is welcome to PM me if he’d like to hear my case for it.
Excellent full-length 9mm can on PCC’s & pistols. Had to get the booster for pistols, obviously. Useful on carbine-length AR’s, but a dedicated, decent length can will be better. (As people have pointed out, 5.56 AR’s are always gonna be loud; bolts can be pretty quiet.) Does a lot of things really quite well. Pretty easily maintained if you don’t just let it go on really dirty calibers (lookin’ at you, .22LR!). I’m itching to try it out on my new 8.5” 300BO upper with 220gr subs & 150gr supers.
OP is welcome to PM me if he’d like to hear my case for it.
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Well I had decided on the obsidian 9 on a dedicated 9mm pcc, and was planning to start the process this week, but the mechanic just called, he fixed the problems with my jeep it was initially there for, but he found what he is thinking to be blown head gasket. And it needs tires bad. So probably about to be $3k into the jeep so looks like I'm putting the suppressor on hold for a bit, but I appreciate all the feedback
So sorry to hear that! Been there myself.
Sounds like you’ve put 5.56 on the back burner, in which case the Obsidian 9 is a great choice, particularly since the very reasonable price from SilencerShop includes the 1/2x28 piston. Pressure-wise, it covers all your pistol needs up through 300BO subsonics, even .357 Mag., and the short setup is still quite good even on .22 pistols. Pick up the fixed barrel spacer and you’re good to go either way. If I hadn’t wanted the decent centerfire rifle capability the Mystic X provides, I would have gotten the Obsidian 9.
Sounds like you’ve put 5.56 on the back burner, in which case the Obsidian 9 is a great choice, particularly since the very reasonable price from SilencerShop includes the 1/2x28 piston. Pressure-wise, it covers all your pistol needs up through 300BO subsonics, even .357 Mag., and the short setup is still quite good even on .22 pistols. Pick up the fixed barrel spacer and you’re good to go either way. If I hadn’t wanted the decent centerfire rifle capability the Mystic X provides, I would have gotten the Obsidian 9.
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I really like my Obsidian 9, I keep it on my MP5 most of the time.