Zedhound;n87443 said:yeah, polymer too, i know you need to quite a bit of drilling but still doable in a few hours.
but also how many people are doing this that we need legislation, not enough
The guns are built from kits and arrive in pieces, so under existing law, when they're shipped, they aren't guns. When assembled by their buyers, they're lethal - and legal.
Federal officials like Graham Barlowe, the resident agent in charge of the ATF's Sacramento office, say the loophole is dangerous.
"People that could not pass a background check," said Barlowe, "are purchasing these unfinished receiver kits and making firearms because they know that if they went to a gun store, they wouldn't be able to pass a background check."
Zedhound;n87443 said:yeah, polymer too, i know you need to quite a bit of drilling but still doable in a few hours.
but also how many people are doing this that we need legislation, not enough
11B CIB;n87471 said:Like they can trace all the illegal guns that are currently in the hands of criminals any better? If that was the case, no criminals would have guns because they could trace them. This is a non-story meant to fan the flames of control.
Windini;n87995 said:I bought some straw once.
Am I in trouble?
eddie0225;n87762 said:I mean why would a crook go through all the trouble to make a gun shoot it in a crime then leave it just cause he could besides those put together guns are cheap but not as cheap as one you steal or buy on the Black market or should I say on theeeeee oh I know the blank color market
Windini;87995 said:I bought some straw once.
Am I in trouble?
MostWanted;n88048 said:For those of you who have made these guns, what tools are required? If it takes more than a few hand tools, like maybe a drill press or other relatively expensive equipment, it would seem silly to think that a criminal would buy all that vs. just getting one the usual way (street or straw).
eddie0225;n87759 said:I know every gun made after a certain time has a serial number BUT just about every gun used by a criminal has a serial number on it, if it does it did have at one time. So stopping a very few people from getting and making the untraceable gun is gonna do what?? I mean I haven't heard one 1 gun that was used in a crime that didn't have a serial number on it at one time or another period
eddie0225;87762 said:I mean why would a crook go through all the trouble to make a gun shoot it in a crime then leave it just cause he could besides those put together guns are cheap but not as cheap as one you steal or buy on the Black market or should I say on theeeeee oh I know the blank color market
bigfutz;n88995 said:If you have a milling machine and know how to run it, why not leave your life of crime behind and get a really good paying job?
bigfutz;n88993 said:I thought ghost guns were those with a 30 caliber clip.
Errant_Venture;n88985 said:Seems like, if they were going to make some kind of law, shouldn't they just modify exiting law to mandate that the absolute first thing done to the receiver when it's possible to do so, be the printing of a serial number? Shift the burden to the people making these incomplete receivers. Granted, I'm not well versed on the subject, but still.
Oneofsix;n89060 said:More, better regulation....that'll fix it.
Errant_Venture;n89112 said:Modify existing. 1+0!=2