Canning and Food Preservation

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We never put up anything that didn’t stay submerged, no idea if it really matters just what gram did.

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I had a little siphoning happen on that batch, I think I was probably in a hurry and didn’t let the canner steam for 10 minutes before weighting it.
If the liquid goes down to the half mark that is when it is considered unsafe to store and you would just need to pop it in the fridge and eat it within a few days.
 
We have an abundance of jalapeño’s from the garden this year. Wife’s been coming up with new ways to use them. Today it was Pepper Jelly. Tons of sugar in there and idk what else. Very sweet with a hint of heat. Had enough to fill a bunch of smaller jars for friends and family to try.

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We love pepper jelly in this house. Toss it on crackers with cream cheese, good stuff.
 
Is anyone else experiencing lid failure on golden harvest lids? 3 of 14 have failed me this week while pressure canning 10 pounds of pressure.

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You wrench them down too tight?

We’ve only had one do that. The wife now uses tattlers for all the stuff we can for ourselves.
 
Is anyone else experiencing lid failure on golden harvest lids? 3 of 14 have failed me this week while pressure canning 10 pounds of pressure.

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Not sure of the brand but had several fail last run of green beans we made. Got them on Amazon and they buckled the same way. Ball lids only from now on.
 
Is anyone else experiencing lid failure on golden harvest lids? 3 of 14 have failed me this week while pressure canning 10 pounds of pressure.
Haven’t had a failure like the picture, but have had failure where a triangle Point forms on the kid. In any case, that sucks.
 
You wrench them down too tight?

We’ve only had one do that. The wife now uses tattlers for all the stuff we can for ourselves.
Thought about that, I may have… you know how it is you feel like you do everything the same way and I’ve been using these lids for years and never had an issue until now.

Tattlers????
 
Not sure of the brand but had several fail last run of green beans we made. Got them on Amazon and they buckled the same way. Ball lids only from now on.
Same manufacturer that makes ball they are just cheaper by the box 🤷‍♀️. They make Kerr too. Maybe I just got a crappy batch.
 
We haven't had any using Ball lids. Couple years ago there were a lot of complaints about Amazon selling "fake" Ball lids that would not seal.

Were the lids from your usual source? Maybe contact Golden Harvest to see what they say?
 
Tattlers????
 
Thought about that, I may have… you know how it is you feel like you do everything the same way and I’ve been using these lids for years and never had an issue until now.

Tattlers????
Link is what @Cape Fear posted. I love them, haven’t had any problems with any failing or not sealing. Also don’t have to worry about trying to find more lids if/when things get stupid. It’s an investment up front but in the long run it’ll be cheaper not having to constantly buy lids.

Only time I use reg lids is if it’s something I’m giving away or if I’m vacuum sealing a jar. (I haven’t even tried to see if I could vac seal with the tattler lid).
 
Same manufacturer that makes ball they are just cheaper by the box 🤷‍♀️. They make Kerr too. Maybe I just got a crappy batch.
Perhaps but we’ve never a Ball branded one fail. I’ve had the Amazon sourced ones fail twice and threw them out.
 
Link is what @Cape Fear posted. I love them, haven’t had any problems with any failing or not sealing. Also don’t have to worry about trying to find more lids if/when things get stupid. It’s an investment up front but in the long run it’ll be cheaper not having to constantly buy lids.

Only time I use reg lids is if it’s something I’m giving away or if I’m vacuum sealing a jar. (I haven’t even tried to see if I could vac seal with the tattler lid).
I’ll check it out 🙂
 
Perhaps but we’ve never a Ball branded one fail. I’ve had the Amazon sourced ones fail twice and threw them out.
We’ve been using these for years and haven’t had any trouble 🤷‍♀️. I’ve read a lot about people complaining about the “recipe” changing on the rubber seal part of the ball, they are saying it breaks down if you use vinegar to wipe your rims. I’m sure this would apply to all the brands mentioned above if it’s true.
 
We haven't had any using Ball lids. Couple years ago there were a lot of complaints about Amazon selling "fake" Ball lids that would not seal.

Were the lids from your usual source? Maybe contact Golden Harvest to see what they say?
Yeah those Amazon ones got a lot of people when they were hard to find. If it continues I will at least return them back to the dreaded wolly world. I usually use the ball but when they started getting so expensive we switched to these but this is the first time I’ve had an issue. Maybe @hp468 is right and I broke out my midget strength on them lol.
 

These folks are local to me but they do ship. The Restaurant Store has canning stuff too. These are some alternate sources.
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Been a busy weekend in the kitchen! @Burt Gummer and I scored 30dz eggs for 24 bucks so those have been running non stop in the freeze dryer. Then Friday after a quick run to the local restaurant supply store I grabbed some chuck roast and thick cut bacon to pressure can. While all that was going I decided I better make good use of some of @beamernc blueberries and start some more blueberry butter. I’ll cook it down tonight and can it in the morning.
Pics or it didn’t happen 😉

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So we tried the bacon today. It’s been 6 months since it was canned. The end result was a bit different than fresh. @Burt Gummer said it lost some of the bacon flavor. I will say this particular bacon had a really good applewood flavor to it and I couldn’t taste that but I tasted like bacon, smelled like bacon. The texture was crisp but fell apart pretty easy, if I do it again I won’t pack the jars as tight and see if that helps. We plan to FD some for short storage raw next round and see if that consistency is better when reconstituted.
 
We plan to FD some for short storage raw next round and see if that consistency is better when reconstituted.
That should be interesting. My understanding is that things with high fat content don’t FD very well.
 
So we tried the bacon today. It’s been 6 months since it was canned. The end result was a bit different than fresh. @Burt Gummer said it lost some of the bacon flavor. I will say this particular bacon had a really good applewood flavor to it and I couldn’t taste that but I tasted like bacon, smelled like bacon. The texture was crisp but fell apart pretty easy, if I do it again I won’t pack the jars as tight and see if that helps. We plan to FD some for short storage raw next round and see if that consistency is better when reconstituted.

Appreciate the update and results on this. Always interesting to see how things turn out and what adjustments we'd make to improve the process. There's always something new to learn.
 
Is anyone else experiencing lid failure on golden harvest lids? 3 of 14 have failed me this week while pressure canning 10 pounds of pressure.

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Can't remember who it was that told me th I s but they told me it was from putting to much in the jars and once I looked there had been just a bit to much in the few that done that
 
Is anyone else experiencing lid failure on golden harvest lids? 3 of 14 have failed me this week while pressure canning 10 pounds of pressure.

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Rings too tight. Jars have to vent as they heat up; too tight and overpressure will cause that buckling outward.
 
They don’t but this would be a short term storage option only.
How long are you considering to be short term? 6mo comes to mind immediately. Still, I am curious as to how this comes out for you.
 
How long are you considering to be short term? 6mo comes to mind immediately. Still, I am curious as to how this comes out for you.
Yes, that’s exactly where I would start opening to see how it did, then I’d try some more in 3 month increments to see how long I could stretch it. I see people do it all the time but that doesn’t mean it turns out well lol. I’ve got some stuff that’s going to take a long dry time, I think I’ll run and grab some bacon tomorrow to throw in with it so we can find out 😉
 
Yes, that’s exactly where I would start opening to see how it did, then I’d try some more in 3 month increments to see how long I could stretch it. I see people do it all the time but that doesn’t mean it turns out well lol. I’ve got some stuff that’s going to take a long dry time, I think I’ll run and grab some bacon tomorrow to throw in with it so we can find out 😉

If I was going to put up bacon, i'd probably be cooking it first and soaking up as much grease out of it as you can before FD. Similar to how we did the smoked picnic, it had a good amount of fat in it but stored well so far.

Curious to see how the fat handles the process.

Which one of ya'll going to pick this up? 🤣
 
If I was going to put up bacon, i'd probably be cooking it first and soaking up as much grease out of it as you can before FD. Similar to how we did the smoked picnic, it had a good amount of fat in it but stored well so far.

Curious to see how the fat handles the process.

Which one of ya'll going to pick this up? 🤣
I agree on cooking it for that reason but was going to try raw just as a trial to see what it does. I haven’t run it yet maybe I’ll do both.
 
It’s so nice to be able to open a few jars and have an easy delicious meal in minutes. I haven’t canned much meat in the past cause let’s face it, kinda looks like dog food when it’s done. I canned a bunch of beef roast over the summer for the first time and tried it last night. I seasoned it just how I would if I were to put it in the crock pot and it turned out fabulous. I was worried it would have that over cooked roast consistency when reheated but it didn’t. Now time to run to the restaurant depot for more now that I know we don’t hate it lol! Y’all don’t judge my finest china left over from Christmas 😉

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I haven’t canned much meat in the past cause let’s face it, kinda looks like dog food when it’s done.
Lynn keeps saying we need to can more meat. Canned ground beef is perfect for anything like spaghetti, tacos, or a casserole and can save you 30 minutes on the cook and prep. Haven’t tried roast like that, but now I’m am interested in doing so.
 
Lynn keeps saying we need to can more meat. Canned ground beef is perfect for anything like spaghetti, tacos, or a casserole and can save you 30 minutes on the cook and prep. Haven’t tried roast like that, but now I’m am interested in doing so.
I’ll have to look and see what cut it was when I go to the depo, it wasn’t regular pot roast and I think that may have helped with the end result. I do remember it had silver skin to deal with when I prepped it so that was a pain but the end result was really good.
Do you do anything special when you can your ground beef? I had told Brian that was going to be next on my list a while back and never got any.
 
We can pork, chicken, ground beef, and sausage. Sausage not my favorite.

Beef in stews has been fine. Try a batch and see;
 
Do you do anything special when you can your ground beef? I had told Brian that was going to be next on my list a while back and never got any.
It’s been a little while since canned any, but I’m pretty sure we cooked it to reduce the fat and get more in the jar instead of raw packing. I think we may have also used chicken broth for liquid instead of water.

I agree with @Car0linab0y sausage (sliced Italian) had a less desirable result.
 
It’s been a little while since canned any, but I’m pretty sure we cooked it to reduce the fat and get more in the jar instead of raw packing. I think we may have also used chicken broth for liquid instead of water.

I agree with @Car0linab0y sausage (sliced Italian) had a less desirable result.
This is what I canned last time that ended up so good. I like it’s cause it’s leaner also

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Any recipes for canning ground beef? I've canned other meats, just never ground beef. I see in the above post #197 they cooked before canning. Would this reduce the time needed in canner or be the same? Is adding chicken or beef stock necessary if reducing it and getting fat out? Fully cook/reduce it or kind of half cook it and let canner do rest?
 
This is from the ball book. Only step I would do in addition to this is drain the fat and use the suggested broth instead of water for ground beef. I have still not gotten around to doing ground yet though @Barbie might have some better tips…

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