Check in if you're not getting the COVID "vaccine."

Let me get this off my chest:

The whole I-don't-get-a-flu-shot-and-I've-never-had-the-flu is about as ridiculous, illogical, argument as there can be.

OK.....moving on.

I have not got one, and until it becomes mandatory, I won't get one. I am not anti-vax, but I do play the odds and look at the risk matrix for me and my family. Not worth the risk.

For any vaccination that derives from aborted fetal cell lines, we will not get it (this does not apply to the mRNA vax, but at least the J&J).
 
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Some interesting videos there (many raving fruitcakes, but still a few interesting ones in there) like the ones with public figures getting obviously faked shots.
 
All of the US available vaccines used fetal cells in development of the vaccine.

COVID-19 vaccines do not contain any aborted fetal cells.

However, Pfizer and Moderna did perform confirmation tests (to ensure the vaccines work) using fetal cell lines. And Johnson & Johnson uses fetal cell lines in vaccine development, confirmation and production.

But it's important to have the full context: Fetal cell lines are not the same as fetal tissue.

Fetal cell lines are cells that grow in a laboratory. They descend from cells taken from elective abortions in the 1970s and 1980s. Those individual cells from the 1970s and 1980s have since multiplied into many new cells over the past four or five decades, creating fetal cell lines. Current fetal cell lines are thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue. They do not contain any tissue from a fetus.

Vaccine makers may use these fetal cell lines in any of the following three stages of vaccine development:

  • Development: Identifying what works
  • Confirmation: Making sure it works
  • Production: Manufacturing the formula that works
When it comes to the COVID-19 vaccines currently approved for emergency use, neither the Pfizer nor Moderna vaccines used fetal cell lines during the development or production phases. (So, no fetal cell lines were used to manufacture the vaccine, and they are not inside the injection you receive from your doctor.) However, both companies used the fetal cell line HEK 293 in the confirmation phase to ensure the vaccines work. All HEK 293 cells are descended from tissue taken from a 1973 elective abortion that took place in the Netherlands.

The Johnson & Johnson vaccine is a bit different. It is an adenovirus vector vaccine. (Adenovirus is the virus that causes the common cold. The virus in this vaccine has been changed so that it does NOT cause illness.) With this type of vaccine, a carrier, in this case adenovirus, acts as a delivery vehicle. The adenovirus has had the coronavirus spike protein added to its DNA. The adenovirus carries that genetic material into your body, delivering its modified DNA to your cells. Your cells will then make the spike protein, activating your immune system. Once activated, your immune system creates antibodies to fight off the spike protein. Learn more about the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

To make their virus vector vaccine, Johnson & Johnson infects PER.C6 fetal cell line cells with adenovirus. All PER.C6 cells used to manufacture the Johnson & Johnson vaccine are descended from tissue taken from a 1985 elective abortion that also took place in the Netherlands. They use this cell line because it is a well-studied industry standard for safe and reliable production of viral vector vaccines.

None of the COVID-19 vaccines in development use fetal cells taken from recent abortions.

We understand this topic is very sensitive and important within communities of faith. We want everyone to feel like they are making a fully informed decision. We encourage anyone with concerns about the use of fetal cell lines in vaccine development to weigh the risks and benefits of the COVID-19 vaccines with their doctor and have a personal conversation with a faith leader.
 
Just some cursory investigation into mRNA vaccines will show you that there are no licensed mRNA vaccines because they aborted the development of them due to high trends in adverse events and severity. If I had to get one, the J&J process is the safer option, but for right now, hard pass.
 
I’m not going to get it. COVID and the vaccine have been a point of contention between my mom and I. She’s getting her second shot this morning, but says she still won’t go out or be in groups of folks. She gets mad at me cause I laugh at her when she talks about it. I’m not even sure that if my job tells me to get it or take a hike that I’ll get it then. Also. I USED to get the flu shot every year, and used to get the flu every year. I haven’t taken the flu “vaccine” in several years and haven’t had the flu in several years. Coincidence? Maybe
 
My wife and I will not be getting the vaccine, I am in the camp that doesn’t see the need, I’ve worked every single day through all this without getting the virus (that I’m aware of) so I’ll keep doing what I’ve been doing, my employer has no intentions of requiring it and they will send techs that got the vaccine to locations that require it.
 
It's not a vaccine, it's a experimental genetic modification of it's ignorant victim, all pushed by the same people that claim the criminal from Maryland got more votes than anyone in history, who also claim the shots won't stop you from getting the virus, won't stop you from spreading it, and can't truthfully say it won't harm you more than the virus. It's not about health, it's about control by the globalists. Event 201 https://centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/ was a plan for the weaponized China virus, before it was allowed to get out to the world, by the same creeps that now want you to get a "vaccine" and want to require a "passport" to live a normal life free of government control. Turning a test recognized as having a large false positive rate into "confirmed cases", https://discover.hubpages.com/polit...alse-Positives-for-New-Cases-Pandemic-is-Over to enable government over-reach into the lives of everyone, facilitating fraudulent elections to install a puppet dictator, all to get the "New World Order" globalist "Great Reset" back on track, something President Trump would never allow. HELL NO, I'm not taking it under any circumstance.
 
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It's not a vaccine, it's a experimental genetic modification of it's ignorant victim, all pushed by the same people that claim the criminal from Maryland got more votes than anyone in history, who also claim the shots won't stop you from getting the virus, won't stop you from spreading it, and can't truthfully say it won't harm you more than the virus. It's not about health, it's about control by the globalists. Event 201 https://centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/ was a plan for the weaponized China virus, before it was allowed to get out to the world, by the same creeps that now want you to get a "vaccine" and want to require a "passport" to live a normal life free of government control. Turning a test recognized as having a large false positive rate into "confirmed cases", https://discover.hubpages.com/polit...alse-Positives-for-New-Cases-Pandemic-is-Over to enable government over-reach into the lives of everyone, facilitating fraudulent elections to install a puppet dictator, all to get the "New World Order" globalist "Great Reset" back on track, something President Trump would never allow. HELL NO, I'm not taking it under any circumstance.
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Specifically, which of the vaccines do you think is "an experimental genetic modification...", and what info can you cite to support?
 
Not unless my work or my family forces me to "so grandpa can visit". If I was not done procreating (I just practice now) I would be more inclined to stick to my guns. I urge my kids to avoid it if they can.
 
None of my family will be getting it. I have had the flu twice in my life and have taken the flu shot twice (not the same years as the flu) and felt ALMOST as bad for almost as long as when I got the flu so I already don't get the flu shot. Once there is MANY years of data behind this vaccine (if indeed it is really a vaccine), I MIGHT reconsider if I get old enough that it would reduce my chances of death or serious hospital time. I want to see at least a couple of decades of good data on side effects before I step up to take a vaccine for an illness that is so terrible that most people have to take a test to know they have had it! Not an anti-vax person at all but I just don't see the benefit for myself or my family at this time.
 
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I have no intentions of getting the vaccine unless forced into it, ie: no more Social Security checks until you are vaccinated. My wife got the J&J shot last week. So far, so good. I'll take my chances.

Like @kcult said, there is a huge gray cloud over the vaccine. It was rushed onto market without a lot of testing. The big pharmaceutical companies make huge money from vaccines, why is this one free? Will the vaccine cause pregnancy problems or birth defects? Will the vaccine react with medicines the patient is already taking? Too many questions unanswered.
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This is a biggie with me. Way to many unanswered questions. There has been way to much non trustworthy information from all sides. And no one is sure of just what exactly they are getting popped with.
At this point I dont believe anything for cause
 
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Told mine the exact same thing, with one exception. Make them fire you.

We made the decision long ago that we would not be taking it. I, like you, never get flu shots, and very rarely get sick. We believe that we both had this garbage back in jan-feb 20 (before it "officially" got here). We both had all the popular symptoms and Drs just called it upper respiratory. They admittedly had no idea what it was, it spread like wild fire though both of our offices.

If I was up in age and had a slew of health problems I might reconsider but I'll not be a Guinea pig for big pharma.
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Shari is the director of a Christian child care center. Over the last year, her staff have slowly been transforming into the whiniest, complainiest, diva-iest ([emoji38]) bunch I’ve ever heard about, and I hear about them. I told her “Rodan+Fields would love to have you. Apparently the ladies on your staff don’t appreciate you, and eventually, the vaccine will be mandatory for probably anyone in childcare, healthcare, food service, or personal services (hair, nails, tattoos, etc.). The stress of that place is wearing on her. Pretty sure mandatory vax will be her straw breaking moment.

We’re not getting the vaccine. Ever.


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The librul eye-rollers in my family tell me itll reduce my odds of having complications from covid. but nobody is able to estimate those odds or state credibly how much the vax affects them. the best they can do is "directional" language.

I didnt want it but got it for other reasons. I understand why a rational man would say no. And the irrational ones (you know who you are) are very entertaining.
 
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This is likely to come to a decision point soon for me:

Until now, wife and I have avoided vaccination. The former mixes more than I do, as I have been able to do my job via online modality (and I am more eremitically inclined in any case).
We have ethical and scientific reservations; and certainly political wariness as has been expressed by others above.
OtoH, my 80-year old mother has had one of the two mRNA vaccines: so far, no problems for her.

All that being said, my work - at least currently - is planning for more-or-less back to "normal" in-person modality beginning in mid-August. For me, this will mean:

begin subject to State mandated testing; masking; and, certainly, if not an explicit requirement by fiat or policy, an implicit 'vaccinate or else' ... job pressure.
being exposed to several hundred individuals of one of the most socially promiscuous groups on the planet, the US college student.
being still two years away from earliest SS filing.

Meh.
 
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As of now, I have zero intention of getting "the shot"
My wife did. She didn't want to but, she has been Type 1 diabetic for 39 years (very well managed) and, her work orbit constantly has positives popping up.
My only weakness is once they start a vaccine passport... I fly more the the average bear and, have property in the caribbean that I'm not ready to give up.

Until every major airline requires it for boarding, I'm not even kinda considering a shot.
 
Rob said:
As of now, I have zero intention of getting "the shot"
My wife did. She didn't want to but, she has been Type 1 diabetic for 39 years (very well managed) and, her work orbit constantly has positives popping up.
My only weakness is once they start a vaccine passport... I fly more the the average bear and, have property in the caribbean that I'm not ready to give up.

Until every major airline requires it for boarding, I'm not even kinda considering a shot.
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Serious question: what kind of property do you have?
 
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I'm 61, wife is 60. We have no intention of getting the vaccine. We simply don't trust it. We do take vitamins D and Zinc every day as a preventative (not saying that it works...not saying that it doesn't).
If I do get the virus, I can assure you that my wife will claim to have a concoction of essential oils that will cure it :)
 
Kelly or I will not be getting pinned. We are healthy, eat well, and have taken vitamins and supplements for many years. We'll take our chances. For those that don't know, we both work at the same place, and have worked through this whole ordeal. At one time this year, we had 17 people out with the virus, with me working side by side with 3 that was positive. I've been all around people that have had it, and unless I had it with literally no symptoms, I haven't had it. So, we will just roll along like we have been.

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Rob said:
A small house in Aruba...
Bought in 2005 when banks were giving $$ to anyone for anything.
Since VRBO & Air BnB became so popular, it has been an incredible investment.
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That's very cool! Do you use it yourself? Planning to retire there? Or is it just for investment? To you rent it yourself or do you have an agency?
 
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I'm 61, wife is 60. We have no intention of getting the vaccine. We simply don't trust it. We do take vitamins D and Zinc every day as a preventative (not saying that it works...not saying that it doesn't).
If I do get the virus, I can assure you that my wife will claim to have a concoction of essential oils that will cure it :)
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That's what we do too. I take Zinc, 5000iu of D3, Vit. C, Super B complex, and I use a saline nasal mist mostly for my allergies, which has worked wonders for it (have really bad seasonal allergies).

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Inglis said:
Is there anyway to be tested to see if you have had the covid?
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Quite a few places offer the blood test for antibodies ... I used LabCorp April ’20 @ $20 for the test after I was sick in Feb ‘20. I am thinking of doing it again (about 1 year later) to see if I was still antibody positive. @Chuckman said there was a scale for antibody levels so that is something to consider as to what leve you are positive. I don’t remember his exact wording so maybe he’ll chime in on that.
 
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Quite a few places offer the blood test for antibodies ... I used LabCorp April ’20 @ $20 for the test after I was sick in Feb ‘20. I am thinking of doing it again (about 1 year later) to see if I was still antibody positive. @Chuckman said there was a scale for antibody levels so that is something to consider as to what leve you are positive. I don’t remember his exact wording so maybe he’ll chime in on that.
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Back in the day the specificity and sensitivity of the antibody tests were all over the place; that is, many of them were neither sensitive nor specific. There were a number of false-pos and false-neg.

Now science has caught up. I know LabCorp is really, really good, as is Roche. Those are the only two I know much about.
 
Blood tests for antibodies are only if you feel like you've had it recently. Titers diminish over time, and I don't recall how long you have to get tested, but a couple months or more and it will likely be completely out of your system.
 
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Blood tests for antibodies are only if you feel like you've had it recently. Titers diminish over time, and I don't recall how long you have to get tested, but a couple months or more and it will likely be completely out of your system.
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Do they know how long antibodies are hanging out now? That's not my bag, so I have not read much about it.
 
That article you linked in your other thread says that antibodies produced from the Phizer vax are still being detected 6 months after. It doesn't say if that's when they run out or if that's the longest term they had available to test.
 
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