CMP Surplus Ammo

I'm not sure what else to tell you. The CMP statement is very clear regarding commercial ammo. Go over to their forum and argue with them if you want.
You're right. Their statement says SAAMI spec 30-06 is good to go since there's none that run above 60k psi. This is very clear but yet you muddy it with the 50k psi comment but can't back it with published facts.
 
You're right. Their statement says SAAMI spec 30-06 is good to go since there's none that run above 60k psi. This is very clear but yet you muddy it with the 50k psi comment but can't back it with published facts.

I'm sure you'll understand when I tell you that I'm gonna go with the following experts on this as opposed to some random guy on a forum:

> The CMP

> The GCA (Garand Collector's Association - recommends only ammunition specifically loaded and designed for the M1)

> Hornady (who has separate load data in their reloading manual for 30-06 Springfield, and then 30-06 that is to be used in the M1 Garand)

> Gus Fisher (Current GCA Technical Adviser and retired US Marine Corps Rifle Armorer)

> Jim Swartz (SME and expert machinist who has inspected/repaired well over 10,000 Garand op-rods)
 
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I'm sure you'll understand when I tell you that I'm gonna go with the following experts on this as opposed to some random guy on a forum:

> The CMP

> The GCA (Garand Collector's Association - recommends only ammunition specifically loaded and designed for the M1)
Pretty much lawyer responses from those two.

> Hornady (who has separate load data in their reloading manual for 30-06 Springfield, and then 30-06 that is to be used in the M1 Garand)
Probably lawyers as well and their data is so anemic you can't even duplicate milsurp loads with it.

> Gus Fisher (Current GCA Technical Adviser and retired US Marine Corps Rifle Armorer)
He has repeated the 50,000psi chamber pressure limit myth as well.

> Jim Swartz (SME and expert machinist who has inspected/repaired well over 10,000 Garand op-rods)
He specifically mentioned using stupid heavy bullets and very slow powders while shooting 1000yd matches while on the Navy reserve team and they would tweak oprods that way....but they weren't using commercial ammo and they had .gov supplying the parts. No different on the other .mil teams.... beat the guns up...if gets a better X count we don't care, we'll build a new gun.
 
Pretty much lawyer responses from those two.


Probably lawyers as well and their data is so anemic you can't even duplicate milsurp loads with it.


He has repeated the 50,000psi chamber pressure limit myth as well.


He specifically mentioned using stupid heavy bullets and very slow powders while shooting 1000yd matches while on the Navy reserve team and they would tweak oprods that way....but they weren't using commercial ammo and they had .gov supplying the parts. No different on the other .mil teams.... beat the guns up...if gets a better X count we don't care, we'll build a new gun.

"I'm right and everyone else is wrong" is generally not an effective method of arguing one's opinion.

I'll stick with the subject matter experts that I mentioned above. And with that said, I'm out✌️.
 
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"I'm right and everyone else is wrong" is generally not an effective method of arguing one's opinion.

I'll stick with the subject matter experts that I mentioned above. And with that said, I'm out✌️.
Like I said...I pointed out where the "experts " are even quoting the wrong numbers.

You can be "out" all you want....but if you believe the 50,000psi chamber pressure is the limit then you and all the others are still wrong and you are continuing to spread the misinformation.
 
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