Cops slash tires.

So much “WTF” there, that I’m finding it hard to believe. Sounds like an awesome class action lawsuit against the PD & Troopers, or whoever gave & executed the order.

If the vehicles are parked, how in the world are they a threat???
 
If the cops are so concerned why not use wheel boots - really moronic.
 
Perhaps the same dressed in black who put a hammer to the store windows and then went back to the precinct when the pizza guy followed him asking why he was busting windows.
 
So much “WTF” there, that I’m finding it hard to believe. Sounds like an awesome class action lawsuit against the PD & Troopers, or whoever gave & executed the order.

If the vehicles are parked, how in the world are they a threat???
I first saw it on a Facebook post and had to look it up thinking, "there's no way this is real".
 
I'm pretty sure they crossed the line of the criminal code. And when the inevitable criminal complaints start rolling in, the very people who gave those orders (fellow conspirators - as clear a conflict of interest as you could find even without using both hands and a flashlight) will conduct the investigation, but will not measure whether the conduct violated the law, but instead whether it violated policies and procedures.
 
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Again I think it all comes down to your point of view. If they were a threat by moving up on the rear flanks of the officers then they put themselves in a war zone. It’s all in having been on the scene and assessing the situation. If they were advancing on the cops then I’m good with it considering the danger to LEOs. Better than dragging them out and curb stomping the drivers.
 
Again I think it all comes down to your point of view. If they were a threat by moving up on the rear flanks of the officers then they put themselves in a war zone. It’s all in having been on the scene and assessing the situation.

According to the first line of the article:

Two law enforcement agencies in Minneapolis have admitted their officers slashed the tires of cars parked near protests

So the cars were... parked. Doesn't even indicate they had drivers sitting at the wheel ready to drive into a crowd (because presumably if the .gov had the ability to read the intent of a person sitting in a parked car they would have just pulled them out and beaten them vs. going after the tires).
 
Are they planning on paying for the tires they admittedly vandalized?

worried about tires? What about the 10 million in damaged hardware the taxpayer gets to repurchase because of b$& mayors allowing riots.

don’t get me wrong, I’m all for it if this is the new norm and we get away with it during our protests. If not, should come out of mayors and governors salaries. You know, equality and all.
 
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According to the first line of the article:

Two law enforcement agencies in Minneapolis have admitted their officers slashed the tires of cars parked near protests

So the cars were... parked. Doesn't even indicate they had drivers sitting at the wheel ready to drive into a crowd (because presumably if the .gov had the ability to read the intent of a person sitting in a parked car they would have just pulled them out and beaten them vs. going after the tires).
Again we were not on site. Maybe in the car or not but parked. Come to a war zone and civilians get hurt. Come to a riot, people get hurt. Happens in Syria and Iraq. I’ve criticized cops many times but not while bricks, fire, and frozen water bottles have been hurled at them. If I’m a cop and my life is threatened while I’m told to just stand down I’m going to f... up their lives for making my life hell. Yeah for the cops.
 
These arent war zones, this is America. I dont care what happens in those craphole countries who are constantly at war, it's not here.

I agree with your sentiment that the PD shouldn’t be out slashing tires, but disagree that these aren’t war zones. Most of the US is not a war zone yet, but it sure looks like some places are. Although if only one side is fighting, looting and destroying is it really a war? Maybe we can call them surrender zones or occupied territory.
 
They can't get out of their own way. SMH

Also, one more point to my opinion that this is not just about race. It's about Gov and Gov organizations protecting themselves, their people, their policies, and power. And poor minorities are the least capable of getting out of town when that stuff ramps up. "White flight" was actually "flight of people with means" getting away from these policies and the urban poor got stuck dealing with them. If there is one thing that all organizations do it's protect themselves. And Gov has all the cards to protect itself with any and all force necessary. Which comes off as abusive when you are on the receiving end of it.
 
It's about Gov and Gov organizations protecting themselves, their people, their policies, and power.
From this book: https://archive.org/download/CivilW...il War II - The Coming Breakup of America.pdf

Consider these four trends in rioting, which are all pre-indicators of civil war. Note in particular #4, the destruction and occupation of police cars, police stations, and government buildings. Basically, it is a sign that the rioters see these things as an occupational force in their territory and aren't going to tolerate it.

Trend 1: Heavy Weapons
Watch future riots to see if heavy weapons such as attack aircraft, artillery, or armored
vehicles are used to suppress them. If they are, we'll know we've taken another critical
step towards Civil War II. Actually, in the Los Angels riot of'92, armored personnel carriers
were used by the Los Angeles police to flush out organized snipers in the predominately
black Jordan Downs housing project (Robert vernon, LA. Justice, Focus on the Family
Publishing, 1993, pp. 22-27.). Armored personnel carriers are not police vehicles; armored
personnel carriers are military attack vehicles. Armored vehicles were necessary because
the riot was not actually a riot, but a hybrid somewhere between a riot and a war. It is a
stark fact that these riots are increasingly taking on the characteristics of outright warfare,
and that the police are increasingly and necessarily taking on the characteristics of armies
in order to fight these wars. This ongoing conversion of our police departments into military
formations is reflected by their increasing use of armored vehicles, helicopters, bullet-
spraying assault rifles, combat helmets, bulletproof vests, military uniforms, sniper rifles,
and military organizational structures such as SWAT teams.

Trend 2: Ethnic Militias
Watch riots for confrontations between armed ethnic militias, because such confrontations
will certainly precede Civil War II. Actually, a confrontation between armed ethnic militias
has already occurred. In the Los Angeles riot of '92, Korean merchants spontaneously
formed a de facto ethnic militia (Newsweek, "The Siege of LA.", May 11,1992, p. 38.).
They armed themselves with pistols and shotguns, stationed themselves on the roofs of
the buildings in their shopping center, and coordinated their defense of their property with
citizen band radios. In so doing they successfully defended their property against similar
armed ethnic militias composed of black street gang members that torched much of Los
Angeles. In the Los Angeles riot of '92, armed ethnic militias confronted each other on
American soil, but the significance was missed, intentionally or otherwise, by the politically-
correct establishment media. Why?

Trend 3: Barricades
When rioters erect barricades, they're taking an important step, consciously or
unconsciously, towards creating a new nation, however small or temporary. These
barricades are boundaries. They proclaim that all on one side are of the same tribe, and
that all on the other side are foreigners. These barricades are physical boundaries that are
preceded by and reflect the boundaries in the hearts and minds of those who erected
them. After these physical barricades are torn down by the police, the barricades still
remain in the hearts and minds of those who erected them, and therein lies the real
problem, because barricades in hearts and minds can not be torn down by any amount of
police force.

Trend 4: Siege of Police Stations
Nations do not allow hostile armed forces on their territory, so watch for rioters laying siege
to police stations and military installations. The media will call these sieges attempts to
punish the police or capture their weapons, but that's only half the truth. The greater truth
is that, consciously or unconsciously, these rioters are creating a new nation, and that they
perceive the police as the occupying army of a foreign power. Also, watch for attempts to
seize radio and television stations, and government buildings.
 
They can't get out of their own way. SMH

Also, one more point to my opinion that this is not just about race. It's about Gov and Gov organizations protecting themselves, their people, their policies, and power. And poor minorities are the least capable of getting out of town when that stuff ramps up. "White flight" was actually "flight of people with means" getting away from these policies and the urban poor got stuck dealing with them. If there is one thing that all organizations do it's protect themselves. And Gov has all the cards to protect itself with any and all force necessary. Which comes off as abusive when you are on the receiving end of it.

God damn, man.....this is the most succinct and spot on perspective I have read in a while.
 
worried about tires? What about the 10 million in damaged hardware the taxpayer gets to repurchase because of b$& mayors allowing riots.

don’t get me wrong, I’m all for it if this is the new norm and we get away with it during our protests. If not, should come out of mayors and governors salaries. You know, equality and all.
So I own a small business and barely made it through this COVID fallacy just to have to board up and spend the night to protect my business from riots with police standing idle and doing nothing more than slashing my tires for me. The cops had no idea who these cars belonged to.
 
God damn, man.....this is the most succinct and spot on perspective I have read in a while.

If you like podcasts look up Econtalk "Revolt of the public" May 25, 2020 and I think it was "A Time to Build" March 2. 2020. If the second one is right he goes into the tendency of all organizations to be self preserving to the detriment of progress and other things. Some of those ideas in those two.
 
worried about tires? What about the 10 million in damaged hardware the taxpayer gets to repurchase because of b$& mayors allowing riots.

don’t get me wrong, I’m all for it if this is the new norm and we get away with it during our protests. If not, should come out of mayors and governors salaries. You know, equality and all.

People riot when they see this kind of mind numbing stupidity and .... ok I will say it.... OPPRESSION..... going on and they feel powerless to do anything about it.

It might not be smart (doh). It may be stupid, in fact. But I can damned sure understand it. The mentality is "it can't be any worse than it is now... burn the whole thing down."

The very LAST person on the face of the earth to embrace marxist/leftist/socialist principles would be me. I can guarantee you that. However, I can understand the frustration that drives people to it. When I talk to reasonable black folks upset about all the drama going on, THAT is the biggest thing they want. They feel like white people are tone deaf and just don't get it.

It is going to take a whole whole whole lot of "but man, I DO understand. You don't have any idea how much I -and other white folks- are just as pissed as you are about the imperious swagger and lack of accountability. Let me share something with you. They want to make me hate you and you to hate me. How about we hate the real people making this happen? Leftists, statists, and power control freaks. They are the enemy. I am on YOUR side on this one."

My opinion, anyway.
 
It is going to take a whole whole whole lot of "but man, I DO understand. You don't have any idea how much I -and other white folks- are just as pissed as you are about the imperious swagger and lack of accountability. Let me share something with you. They want to make me hate you and you to hate me. How about we hate the real people making this happen? Leftists, statists, and power control freaks. They are the enemy. I am on YOUR side on this one."
I’ve been reading this book, which I linked to above. In it, he discussed what to watch out for as signs of an imminent breakup of the US, one of the key signs being riots like we’ve been having. He discusses the black / white dynamic and from his perspective there is too many decades of animosity and blame to get the groups to come together. He also points out that as a general rule, Hispanics have an even lower view of blacks than the whites do. He posits that when conflict breaks out, in the north the black concentration in the cities will be a severe tactical disadvantage. In the south, he posits that it will depend on which group has a population majority that is tactically significant. If the blacks have the advantage we may have a black nation with a capital in Atlanta. If the whites have the majority and advantage ... well, even he said though it’s unsavory we shouldn’t deny it; it will be genocide.
 
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I hope there is something that stops the hatred. There was in South Africa a few years back.
This is what I also see as a danger of the cancel culture where they are removing monuments, flags, statues, etc. It does absolutely nothing to better them. It breeds hatred and resentment. Not to mention, a people with no past also have no future.
 
This is what I also see as a danger of the cancel culture where they are removing monuments, flags, statues, etc. It does absolutely nothing to better them. It breeds hatred and resentment. Not to mention, a people with no past also have no future.
The party only allows people to think about the present. We have always been at war with Eurasia.
 
From this book: https://archive.org/download/CivilWarIITheComingBreakupOfAmerica1996-ThomasW.Chittum/Civil War II - The Coming Breakup of America.pdf

Consider these four trends in rioting, which are all pre-indicators of civil war. Note in particular #4, the destruction and occupation of police cars, police stations, and government buildings. Basically, it is a sign that the rioters see these things as an occupational force in their territory and aren't going to tolerate it.
Dang...been almost 20 years since I read that book. Brings back memories.
 
I’ve been reading this book, which I linked to above. In it, he discussed what to watch out for as signs of an imminent breakup of the US, one of the key signs being riots like we’ve been having. He discusses the black / white dynamic and from his perspective there is too many decades of animosity and blame to get the groups to come together. He also points out that as a general rule, Hispanics have an even lower view of blacks than the whites do. He posits that when conflict breaks out, in the north the black concentration in the cities will be a severe tactical disadvantage. In the south, he posits that it will depend on which group has a population majority that is tactically significant. If the blacks have the advantage we may have a black nation with a capital in Atlanta. If the whites have the majority and advantage ... well, even he said though it’s unsavory we shouldn’t deny it; it will be genocide.
If memory serves me, he wrote that it was the financial stress in Serbia/Croatia thay brought all the old conflicts there up and made them fresh again, and so it would here. And boom...just as the finances of everyone is stressed by this covid 19 lockdown, we start having race riots.
The thing I do expressly remember that stuck on my head from this book was a prediction. Chittum said when the military and police start to ethnocentrically separate into groups...we are on the edge of civil war 2 and certain collapse.
 
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