This guy probably trips over cases of ammo between his bed and the coffe maker in the morning
I wouldn't be surprised if you found loose rounds in the sugar dish and random loaded mags behind the milk in the fridge 😂
Disappointment
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This guy probably trips over cases of ammo between his bed and the coffe maker in the morning
I wouldn't be surprised if you found loose rounds in the sugar dish and random loaded mags behind the milk in the fridge 😂
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Glad to see all the responses to the post. What I expected from some. Guess I am just a little different then most.
I am a supplier of raw materials that sometimes help firearm owners, and I do sell for profit because I do believe in capitalism.
But but recently I sold an item to a fellow person on this form for $0.15 a pound less than I'm getting. He enjoys doing it and I also guarantee whatever he doesn't get rid of I'll buy back at the same price. That way he's guaranteed not to lose any money. I have done this many of times to help out fellow guns owners. I have also sold some primers to a fellow cowboy that was getting real low. I paid .03 for the primers and sold them for .03. I knew of him, but didn't know him. That is how I roll.
I am not asking anyone to do that, but there is no need to stick it to someone because someone can.
I read the neg posts for the first time the other day.
One of the admins said, we are not GB, FB etc. we hold our members to a higher standard.
JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN, DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD!
Keep ragging me....thats OK! I'm a big boy.
And yes, I will still sell my primers for .03 to a person who is in need. The only problem is figuring out who is in need and who is FOS!
I just hope this post will change the way some of us think!
Now back to reloading!!
I am a supplier of raw materials that sometimes help firearm owners, and I do sell for profit because I do believe in capitalism.
But but recently I sold an item to a fellow person on this form for $0.15 a pound less than I'm getting. He enjoys doing it and I also guarantee whatever he doesn't get rid of I'll buy back at the same price. That way he's guaranteed not to lose any money. I have done this many of times to help out fellow guns owners. I have also sold some primers to a fellow cowboy that was getting real low. I paid .03 for the primers and sold them for .03. I knew of him, but didn't know him. That is how I roll.
I am not asking anyone to do that, but there is no need to stick it to someone because someone can.
I read the neg posts for the first time the other day.
One of the admins said, we are not GB, FB etc. we hold our members to a higher standard.
JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN, DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD!
Keep ragging me....thats OK! I'm a big boy.
And yes, I will still sell my primers for .03 to a person who is in need. The only problem is figuring out who is in need and who is FOS!
I just hope this post will change the way some of us think!
Now back to reloading!!
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The free market is why guns and ammo are even available right now. If everyone had to sell at pre or near COVID prices there would be nothing for sale. Hell yes the prices are high, but at least the stuff is available. What's it worth to be able to defend your family?
You can go the socialist route and still buy ammo at pre COVID prices (or so I hear) if that's your thing, you just have to get off your ass and join the lines in front of the Academy stores at 6am on Tuesday and Thursday mornings. Then wait a few hours. Just be glad we don't (yet) have to do that for bread comrade.
You can go the socialist route and still buy ammo at pre COVID prices (or so I hear) if that's your thing, you just have to get off your ass and join the lines in front of the Academy stores at 6am on Tuesday and Thursday mornings. Then wait a few hours. Just be glad we don't (yet) have to do that for bread comrade.
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Your post likely wont change any minds.
Why?
Because the core group already does what youre talkin about. We take care of each other when we are in need. I recently sold some ammo (600 rounds) at cost to a member who is doing a training class this weekend. Another member sold me 250 rounds of 22lr at his cost so I could get my kid behind the trigger.
While we do have those that will take advantage of the market, the 'gougers' you see here are largely Armslist refugees just tryin to dig dollars outta pockets.
Click on the selkers profiles in some of those for sale ads and check out when they joined, how many posts they have, and how few of those posts are not in the BST. I think youll start to see a trend.
OP
Thanks....and you are right! True shooters and gun owners take care of one another.
What you’re doing to help others in need is great, you’re contributing to the future of the shooting sports, helping people that would not otherwise be able to afford to participate today. I do the same and have sold cheap or given away quite a bit of ammo during both this shortage and the last, especially 22lr for the youngsters getting started. Most recently I’ve sold primers for 2019 prices and even given some away. In a few cases folks did flip them, but generally they really needed them for shooting and I feel good about it.
That said, I’m about to list some powders at market prices just because I have more than I need and some folks apparently need it badly.
I think of it as capitalism with the opportunity to be generous, Isn’t that far better than pricing regulation?
This post hits home. This is the first time I've ever been told I'm a disappointment. Except the day after the home coming game, when I made my first bird house, 3rd grade spelling bee, college statistics, freshman math, freshman, english, track meets, first wedding, first divorce, second wedding, getting first 1# dad mug, Best lover coffee mug - Honestly that is the one that really hurts.
I commend you on your stance and yes it would be great for everyone to do this but realistically there are only so many real cowboys left.
I commend you on your stance and yes it would be great for everyone to do this but realistically there are only so many real cowboys left.
At the risk of oversimplification, two things can determine how much something costs.
The free market, or governmental price controls.
Pretty sure I know which one most of us prefer.
The free market, or governmental price controls.
Pretty sure I know which one most of us prefer.
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As things have gotten worse with the shortages, I’ve been more lenient with the rising prices. Then you have the jackass newbs who post powder up for $100/# and that bs makes the forum look bad. Blatant gouging should get you kicked out of here IMO.
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That was my reason for the post. I believe there is a difference in Capitalism and plain F***ing someone.
The gun store around the corner from my house has lots of 9mm. It is about $40 a box. He gets more supply every week or even twice a week. I also watch him pay .60-70¢ a round just so he can have it in stock so people who don’t have it can pick a box or two up. Most of his retailers died up months ago and he buys it from the same places we do (when we can find it). Nobody forces people to buy it, yet those that didn’t have enough gripe at him and tell him he is gouging. Yet the same ones are trying to sell their Bear Creek or PSA AR for $1500 on Go Wilkes or Go Ashe. It is like saying that you should sell me that 1968 Colt Python for the $262 it cost new back then .
I agree, some of the prices are insane, but free market is a hell of a thing. Don’t buy from these guys that are insane on prices and search around. I personally won’t do business with Cheaper than Dirt because of unscrupulous practices years ago.
I agree, some of the prices are insane, but free market is a hell of a thing. Don’t buy from these guys that are insane on prices and search around. I personally won’t do business with Cheaper than Dirt because of unscrupulous practices years ago.
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Hey, quit bringing common sense economics into this!
I hope to get up there next week. I’ll go buy something from him if I can. He always seemed like a good guy to me. Heck he gave me a free hat the first time I went in there and bought a knife and some ammo from him years ago.
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So what is the cut off? $90/# ok but $100/# gets you kicked out? Again if you don't like the price move on. If they can't sell it they will either drop the price or keep it. That is how a "free" market works.
Unless you've been living under a rock everyone's been talking about prices going up and shortages since Biden announced his run in April 2019. Everyone's had plenty of time to stock up on whatever they needed. If they haven't who's to blame, the people who've prepared for what was forecasted almost 2 years ago? Now the people who didn't want to sit and complain about people who did by calling them rip off artists. Sorry I can't feel sorry for anyone who didn't. Not to mention you don't have to buy it.
OP
I started stocking up doing the Obama BS. I told myself, it will never happen to me again. And yes, I was able to stock up. But there are some who just doesn't have the funds to do what I and many others have done. They like to shoot but they are unable to stock the needed supplies because of limited funds. So they buy what they can afford and live month by month. Doesn't matter what the reason, but f ing someone to the point they cannot enjoy the sport is not what I would do. Guess I just care more than others! Have a good day!
""Also if you just look at the BST you get the wrong impression about the forum. For example someone posted that they were new to reloading and can't find components and needed advice on how to start. Multiple people offered the FNG a 100 primers for free or almost free. Someone even offered to show them how to reload when they picked up the primers. I hooked up a fellow member with a 8lb jug of Win321 at cost late last year. My LGS had 3 I bought and kept 2 and hooked up the other member with the 3rd because I am not a total ahole. I saw a post about Win231 and that the other member could not find it anywhere and I said I will get it for you and get it to you. Things like this happen here all the time. It is what makes this place different than other national forums. Sorry to be sort of harsh but I think you are missing the big picture.""
Things like this do happen here ALL the time! We are fortunate.
Things like this do happen here ALL the time! We are fortunate.
It seems like this forum and its future are very important to you, that’s awesome. You should consider becoming a member to help provide support to the community that you enjoy.
Your generosity is noted and I'm sure it's appreciated. Thank you for being a stand-up guy. Your virtue signalling OTOH... you can keep that to yourself. Charity is a personal decision.
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I will look into that.
It has nothing to do with how much you care about others. You miss the concept that someone willingly paying for goods or services at an agreed upon price is not getting F88Ked. They are entering into a transaction. There are people in this world who have enough money but don't have anytime. They see something that they want and the buy it. They don't have time to stalk websites for hours a day to save $50. Their time is worth more than that so if they see a $100 box of primers they can get right now and get back to their life they are more than happy to pay the premium. Stop applying your subjective code of ethics and your value system to everyone.
PS This is me right now....
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You also forgot the thread where someone was looking for ammo for I believe the boy scouts if I remember. Many of us including myself offered a brick of 22's for free. I've sold some of my 22's to a forum member here twice for way under what I could have gotten for them. The BST is what it is. It's a free market and you are welcome to buy it for the asking or just move on, but I don't think it reflects upon the forum itself.
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He mulls it over and realizes that you'll buy all he has and than follow @cubrock to the gun show and double your money. He than says no thanks.
It's crazy right now. Sell and have a box full of paper with hardly any value or hold and see what happens. My experiences say this crap will pass also and things will come back down.
It's a gamble.
It's tough.
The only thing YOU can do is help out who you can or someone you know that needs something.
It has nothing to do with how much you care about others. You miss the concept that someone willingly paying for goods or services at an agreed upon price is not getting F88Ked. They are entering into a transaction. There are people in this world who have enough money but don't have anytime. They see something that they want and the buy it. They don't have time to stalk websites for hours a day to save $50. Their time is worth more than that so if they see a $100 box of primers they can get right now and get back to their life they are more than happy to pay the premium. Stop applying your subjective code of ethics and your value system to everyone.
PS This is me right now....
One thing you are right about, Capitalism has no emotions.
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Well said!
I might keep a few for myself but hell Yes I would if @cubrock would let me tag along to sell my new ammo. Am sure all those profits would be spent buying guns from him though.
Not directed at you personally @Bullseye Baldee but in general:
-If you only hang out in the BST section your view of the forum will come from that. You're missing out on the camaraderie (some good as others have mentioned. Some bad. Don't accept any pic from @Derek8404). Participate in and peruse the other subforums.
-New members, Gunbroker refugees, Armslist refugees, etc) who only hang out in the BST will probably have their opinion of the board formed from just that subsection as well. Those truly interested in becoming a forum regular will/will have participated in other sections. As another member has already mentioned you can usually sort the "wheat from the chaff" by looking at their post count and where those post have been. Low post count, only in the BST section, with prices on the upper end? My guess would be a refugee from one of the aforementioned places. Or someone looking to cash on on the current market. Absolutely nothing wrong with anyone asking what they want for their item IMO. It's capitalism. One of THREE things will happen. 1. It will sell. 2. No takers at the asking price so they will lower the price. 3. They keep bumping the thread to the top frequently without taking a clue from #2. You can ask what you want. I don't have to buy it. The reverse is true as well. Simple as that. I do what I do elsewhere on the internet. I keep scrolling.
-Items in the BST thread that are...um....at the top tier level or above on pricing (usually by new members) usually find their way for discussion in the "What's up with the BST ads?" thread that only supporting members can see. Worth the $20 IMO just for the entertainment in that thread alone.
-If you only hang out in the BST section your view of the forum will come from that. You're missing out on the camaraderie (some good as others have mentioned. Some bad. Don't accept any pic from @Derek8404). Participate in and peruse the other subforums.
-New members, Gunbroker refugees, Armslist refugees, etc) who only hang out in the BST will probably have their opinion of the board formed from just that subsection as well. Those truly interested in becoming a forum regular will/will have participated in other sections. As another member has already mentioned you can usually sort the "wheat from the chaff" by looking at their post count and where those post have been. Low post count, only in the BST section, with prices on the upper end? My guess would be a refugee from one of the aforementioned places. Or someone looking to cash on on the current market. Absolutely nothing wrong with anyone asking what they want for their item IMO. It's capitalism. One of THREE things will happen. 1. It will sell. 2. No takers at the asking price so they will lower the price. 3. They keep bumping the thread to the top frequently without taking a clue from #2. You can ask what you want. I don't have to buy it. The reverse is true as well. Simple as that. I do what I do elsewhere on the internet. I keep scrolling.
-Items in the BST thread that are...um....at the top tier level or above on pricing (usually by new members) usually find their way for discussion in the "What's up with the BST ads?" thread that only supporting members can see. Worth the $20 IMO just for the entertainment in that thread alone.
OP
I am moving on....my feelings does not get hurt.
BlackGun
Pimpin Ain’t Easy
Nah man continue. People live for crucifying their own. Today you get to be the whipping boy who was too poor to place a $10,000 order. You wouldn’t be poor if you didn’t have those children and bought that house. That was failure to prepare. Next time use a condom and pay cash.
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So people that are supporting their local gun shops and NRA and a member of the gun range and supporting concealed carry instructors. Participating in shooting events. Encouraging others to join and participate in our gun ownership and shooting sports. These people so close to the industry know that opportunities are likely to arise where they can make an investment that may potentially provide a profit.
These are the awful people that we should shun and look down upon.
Those people that do nothing and run to the panic and do not want to be prepared we should keep our prices low because they need protection.
They are after all busy with their cruise down in the carribean.
Take your 90% profit and enjoy the 10% of customers that you break even or loose a little money on and judge yourself to be in the right.
These are the awful people that we should shun and look down upon.
Those people that do nothing and run to the panic and do not want to be prepared we should keep our prices low because they need protection.
They are after all busy with their cruise down in the carribean.
Take your 90% profit and enjoy the 10% of customers that you break even or loose a little money on and judge yourself to be in the right.