I know, I know..... I made a mistake. Two years ago, I bought a Winchester safe. The LaGard electronic lock has failed after stuttering. Luckily, out of caution, I left the door open the last time I finally got it open. Tried every possible remedy. NO RESPONSE at all from Winchester (actually Granite Security Products). LaGard can sell me an upgraded pad/lock for $150, and I can have locksmith install, but I don't trust the crap at all. Hate to serve as an example, but there it is.