Do You Have A Plan For Your Guns If You Die?

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A few months ago, in NY, I received a text from a gun acquaintance. We knew each other from the range(s), gun shows and a local gun forum, and we recently traded ammo. He asked if I was interested in buying 3 of his registered rifles. I know he always wants top dollar and I already had what he was selling Mini-14 GB's and an early, slab side HBAR), so I was only mildly interested. He sent me an incredibly low price for all 3 and I was dubious. I asked why so low and he told me he was in the hospital and was just told he had Stage 4 pancreatic cancer related to 9/11, Ground Zero as a NY Court Officer.

In the next couple of days, then weeks, I text and spoke on the phone more than I do in year. He was a condemned man and I would talk to him as long as he wanted. Almost every conversation was about guns and he was more knowledgeable about them than anyone I knew (and I was the president of a 2,000 member range for 9 years}. He eventually asked me if I could take care of his guns, sell them, while he was bedridden. Adult daughter and wife has zero interest or knowledge of firearms. He was adamant about not selling/consignment to a gun store and getting pennies on the dollar, or selling bulk to someone who had $$$. He wanted each gun to go to a good home of someone who would appreciate it and turned down early offers to buy the whole lot.

So, long story longer, I've been trying to sell his 90+ firearms for a few months. Luckily I'm burning time toward my retirement so I had the time - but it was almost like a full-time job. They live 30 minutes from me on the traffic-ridden Queens line, so it was a hassle. After going through my gun friends, who bought a bunch, I contacted the owner of the local gun forum who was happy to help and let me sell the guns through the forum (my ill friend is also a member of the forum). Luckily I was able to sell almost all of his guns and lots of ammo. There's a few left that I have to sell when I get back to NY, not much. I was able to speak to him about a week before he died (2 weeks ago) and was able to tell him that I was able to get his wife almost double what he wanted me to get for his guns. It was nice to hear his happiness, if only for seconds.

So, the moral of this long, somewhat boring story is that we all should get our collections in order in case we unexpectedly die. Unless you have a trustworthy family member/friend with gun knowledge and time that will take on this task - make a plan, put it i writing.
 
Mine will go to the local pawn shop where someone will buy them and take them home and be happy. A lot of my guns came from pawn shops and probably belonged to widows who carried them there after the death of their husbands. Guns are like cast iron. They get past from one person to another and are taken care of until they wear out.
 
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I don't own firearms that are considered collectible so If I would to expire unexpectedly my wife met Billy @BatteryOaksBilly and Jerek @knifeman32 so she will probably contact them and arrange for a no haggle sale.
 
For the last 3 years I've been saying, "I'm going to sit down and write out the model, serial#, and current value of each of my guns just to make it easier on my wife." I still haven't done it...

I hope that I'm raising my daughters properly so that they'll want them one day... But, you never know... Especially if I kick the bucket early, in some freak accident.

I guess it's time to actually make that list...
 
I don't have kids to pass em down to. I might have to put a note in my will about getting mine to the kids of cousins and stuff. Or they could be sold and money donated to like GOA or something.
 
For the last 3 years I've been saying, "I'm going to sit down and write out the model, serial#, and current value of each of my guns just to make it easier on my wife." I still haven't done it...

I hope that I'm raising my daughters properly so that they'll want them one day... But, you never know... Especially if I kick the bucket early, in some freak accident.

I guess it's time to actually make that list...
This would give my wife a freaking heart attack.
 
On another Forum (woodworking) I go to, they have a group of guys that members tell their wives to reach out to, and will inventory all the equipment (guns) , accessories for each, group extra parts and pieces to give accurate lists and prices and then either leave it at that or help get them sold.
Not any one of them alone can offer a price beforehand or cut deals with the wife. if there is something one of them wants he’s cut out of the appraisal of that.

It’s all on the up and up to get her what she should be getting.

something like that for this forum could work too.
 
1. yes.
2. "I guess it's time to actually make that list..." yes. we are not guaranteed our next breath.
3. i have 3 lists. one on paper at home, one on paper in the safe deposit box, and one on a memory card at home.

my Daddy actually put his in his will. model # with details.
 
A man I have known for over 50 years is leaving us.....a little every day....he now no longer remembers his wife of 50 years. This man is a Shooter...he has been S.C. and N.C. High Power Rifle Champion. He was S.C. Pistol Champion. He shot shoulder to shoulder with Herschel Anderson, Jim Clark, Thelbert Almond. He has pictures of him and Carlos Hathcock shooting prone side by side at Camp Perry. He IS the real deal. He has several Match winning Clark and Almond rimfire, center fire and hard ball guns...a half dozen "built" M1As. These are guns that have won nationally and are historically important. Another 50 handguns and over 20 Randall Knives including his that he ordered and used while in Viet Nam.
His wife called me Friday to tell me she wanted me to be the first to see, buy and help her sell all the guns and knives and pocket watches. While this breaks my heart she and I both need to accept that he is gone.....and so for the Third time in my life this sorrowful duty has called me. I will help because he was my friend. I will help her because he loved her so.
Saturday the wife called me in tears.....I feared the worst and yet it was worst than I thought. A person that had wheedled his way into her confidence got her to leave the house and go shopping with his wife. He said he would stay and look after my friend. After she got home and they left she saw that her husbands Randall #1 and a pistol were missing. This cowardly Bastard had taken her trust for him and used it to rob her. His wife was surely complicit. Two late 70s people that are sick and trusting taken advantage of by this jackal.
Have a plan, implement it as soon as you foresee difficulties. We have predators amongst us that see your problems, even as you die, as plunder to them.
I am thankful to say between @Michael458 and @Etruett I will never have this problem. I think in the next few months I will place some very valuable guns into the homes that I want them to go to.....It is time. Billy
 
Wife will probably keep the two 44 specials (rifle and revolver), and either sell everything else or let Dad go through it!

She knows about this place so be expecting them in that event!
 
This would give my wife a freaking heart attack.
We are finally at a place in life where I buy what I want (within reason) , she buys what she wants (within reason) , and we don't give each other any grief (we aren't rich but we are finally comfortable and no longer living paycheck to paycheck).

She knows about my safes, but she never asks to look inside. She knows I've been buying gold and silver. However, she has no idea what I've got.

If I made a list and tallied up the USED value of all my guns and showed her the big round number, I think she'd be really impressed with what I've collected over the last 4 years...
 
A man I have known for over 50 years is leaving us.....a little every day....he now no longer remembers his wife of 50 years. This man is a Shooter...he has been S.C. and N.C. High Power Rifle Champion. He was S.C. Pistol Champion. He shot shoulder to shoulder with Herschel Anderson, Jim Clark, Thelbert Almond. He has pictures of him and Carlos Hathcock shooting prone side by side at Camp Perry. He IS the real deal. He has several Match winning Clark and Almond rimfire, center fire and hard ball guns...a half dozen "built" M1As. These are guns that have won nationally and are historically important. Another 50 handguns and over 20 Randall Knives including his that he ordered and used while in Viet Nam.
His wife called me Friday to tell me she wanted me to be the first to see, buy and help her sell all the guns and knives and pocket watches. While this breaks my heart she and I both need to accept that he is gone.....and so for the Third time in my life this sorrowful duty has called me. I will help because he was my friend. I will help her because he loved her so.
Saturday the wife called me in tears.....I feared the worst and yet it was worst than I thought. A person that had wheedled his way into her confidence got her to leave the house and go shopping with his wife. He said he would stay and look after my friend. After she got home and they left she saw that her husbands Randall #1 and a pistol were missing. This cowardly Bastard had taken her trust for him and used it to rob her. His wife was surely complicit. Two late 70s people that are sick and trusting taken advantage of by this jackal.
Have a plan, implement it as soon as you foresee difficulties. We have predators amongst us that see your problems, even as you die, as plunder to them.
I am thankful to say between @Michael458 and @Etruett I will never have this problem. I think in the next few months I will place some very valuable guns into the homes that I want them to go to.....It is time. Billy
Horrible...
 
1. yes.
2. "I guess it's time to actually make that list..." yes. we are not guaranteed our next breath.
3. i have 3 lists. one on paper at home, one on paper in the safe deposit box, and one on a memory card at home.

my Daddy actually put his in his will. model # with details.
My daddy died in February. He had a will, but it didn't list anything. He made me the executor, and 7 months later, the estate is still not completely settled because the will was so vague.

My will is going to be much more specific. I don't want my kids to have to deal with the headache and greedy relatives. I still have cousins calling me begging for things that belonged to my dad...
 
A man I have known for over 50 years is leaving us.....a little every day....he now no longer remembers his wife of 50 years. This man is a Shooter...he has been S.C. and N.C. High Power Rifle Champion. He was S.C. Pistol Champion. He shot shoulder to shoulder with Herschel Anderson, Jim Clark, Thelbert Almond. He has pictures of him and Carlos Hathcock shooting prone side by side at Camp Perry. He IS the real deal. He has several Match winning Clark and Almond rimfire, center fire and hard ball guns...a half dozen "built" M1As. These are guns that have won nationally and are historically important. Another 50 handguns and over 20 Randall Knives including his that he ordered and used while in Viet Nam.
His wife called me Friday to tell me she wanted me to be the first to see, buy and help her sell all the guns and knives and pocket watches. While this breaks my heart she and I both need to accept that he is gone.....and so for the Third time in my life this sorrowful duty has called me. I will help because he was my friend. I will help her because he loved her so.
Saturday the wife called me in tears.....I feared the worst and yet it was worst than I thought. A person that had wheedled his way into her confidence got her to leave the house and go shopping with his wife. He said he would stay and look after my friend. After she got home and they left she saw that her husbands Randall #1 and a pistol were missing. This cowardly Bastard had taken her trust for him and used it to rob her. His wife was surely complicit. Two late 70s people that are sick and trusting taken advantage of by this jackal.
Have a plan, implement it as soon as you foresee difficulties. We have predators amongst us that see your problems, even as you die, as plunder to them.
I am thankful to say between @Michael458 and @Etruett I will never have this problem. I think in the next few months I will place some very valuable guns into the homes that I want them to go to.....It is time. Billy

those type dont deserve to draw breath
 
My daddy died in February. He had a will, but it didn't list anything. He made me the executor, and 7 months later, the estate is still not completely settled because the will was so vague.

My will is going to be much more specific. I don't want my kids to have to deal with the headache and greedy relatives. I still have cousins calling me begging for things that belonged to my dad...

tried to explain this to my MIL, i hope it hasnt fell on deaf ears. money does strange this to families
 
For the last 3 years I've been saying, "I'm going to sit down and write out the model, serial#, and current value of each of my guns just to make it easier on my wife." I still haven't done it...

I hope that I'm raising my daughters properly so that they'll want them one day... But, you never know... Especially if I kick the bucket early, in some freak accident.

I guess it's time to actually make that list...
I did that10 years ago…scared the hell out of me! And it didn’t count ammo, holsters, cases, scopes…
 
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My 'friends' descend on my stuff and take whatever they want. In trade for those freebies they'll help the wife dispose of the NFA bits and that's the end of it.

Miss ya bud. Been too long, we should catch up. ;)
 
Have a plan, implement it as soon as you foresee difficulties. We have predators amongst us that see your problems, even as you die, as plunder to them.
There's so much content in your post that one reaction can't cover it. You probably know what I'm thinking anyway.
 
I have a revocable trust for my firearms -- specifically to preclude probate, but also so that other trustees can handle/manage the assets should I ever become unable to do so, myself. (e.g. If I'm on life support; if Alzheimer's renders me someone who is adjudicated mentally incompetent, etc.)

Right now, I'm the beneficiary of such trust, but if/when the time comes, that's easily changed by way of amendment. Moreover, if it's not changed in time, the trustees are legally empowered to figure it the heck out.
 
I have a little boy and he well get all. I hope he likes guns. He is only 22 months old. I will teach him all I know and when he is older introduce him to this big family CFF. Where he can meet friends and learn

dan0311 , I commend your on being an excellent friend an helping him out and his family. I'm sorry you lost him and he was a hero their at ground zero. God bless him and his family.
 
A friend of mine in not so great health recently gifted me a beautiful S&W that he had planned on leaving me and decided not to wait. A few months prior, I had already agreed to assist his wife disposing of his collection when he goes Because he doesn’t trust his sons. It’s a real honor to be trusted to take care of his collection, but at the same time so sad that he can’t trust his own sons.
 
We are finally at a place in life where I buy what I want (within reason) , she buys what she wants (within reason) , and we don't give each other any grief
My life got a lot better when she stopped asking where my new (some just new to me ) guns came from and I stopped asking where the clothes, shoes, and purses came from. The important words in his statements above are “within reason”.
 
Yep, already been through this. If I go unexpectedly, Kelly is to call @BatteryOaksBilly, and they'll work it out together. I've told her to trust no one else, period, except for Billy, and to never let anyone else even look at them. From our relationship and friendship with Billy and RS, she know's she's in good, trustworthy hands. It's very satisfying to know that that part of my possessions, are taken care of.

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I've got two grown boys so I'm covered. I do need to set up a trust though for the couple of NFA items to make that transition simpler.

Sorry for your loss.
 
I've got two grown boys so I'm covered. I do need to set up a trust though for the couple of NFA items to make that transition simpler.
Just making sure you know…
1. It’ll cost $200 each to transfer them into a trust
2. They’ll transfer for free (using a Form 5) to your legal heir, or whoever you name in a will. Fill the forms out now, except for dates/signatures.

(I say that under the assumption they’re currently registered to you as an individual)
 
The important words in his statements above are “within reason”.
Joe, this is Very subjective...Ronnie Sue has a reputation of going to town to get her vehicle serviced and coming home with a Brand New one. Not once or twice or three times....you get the picture.....in 30 years together we have never Asked the other about Any purchase. It wouldn't work for us.
 
A friend of mine in not so great health recently gifted me a beautiful S&W that he had planned on leaving me and decided not to wait. A few months prior, I had already agreed to assist his wife disposing of his collection when he goes Because he doesn’t trust his sons. It’s a real honor to be trusted to take care of his collection, but at the same time so sad that he can’t trust his own sons.

I dont understand families like that, blood should be the strongest bond
 
Yep. I am lucky to have two daughters that are into guns and my oldest is a responsible party to my NFA items. I do have contact information of some members that I trust that they can contact if they want to sell anything, so everything is covered
 
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