First female passes SFAS
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This social experiment is going to be rammed down our throats regardless of the individual outcomes! Marine Recon is also under the gun.
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Screw it
If they can pass with the current standards sure why not?
Lowering them to accommodate well that is a different pig.
I was in with plenty of females that could go toe to toe with their male counter partz
If they can pass with the current standards sure why not?
Lowering them to accommodate well that is a different pig.
I was in with plenty of females that could go toe to toe with their male counter partz
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You were a POG lol
And of course they’re lowering the standards
They needed female drills so bad they had to do something illegal or not be able to read to fail the course. Peer evals were desperately needed
I’ll never forget the O Course at AirCrew, same one the AOCS guys used.
Males scaled the 12 ft wall, then the 8 ft wall in succession.
Females scaled the 12, then touched the 8 as they ran by....
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Males scaled the 12 ft wall, then the 8 ft wall in succession.
Females scaled the 12, then touched the 8 as they ran by....
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Women are a pain in the rear.
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They didn’t lower the standards they just ignore them and gave her a pass. Stuff they would fail or recycle a guy for.
backwoodsshooter
there’s always a method to the madness
I was and not ashamed of it.
However, I wasn't a fobbit either lol.
Just a wee bit over the crayon eating scale to be a grunt
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They gave her way more do-overs than any man would get. They lowered the bar, then sealed all of the test records. That is my guess. As it is only a small percentage of men make it through. And the Army's own research showed that the top 25% of women in the army did not do as well as the bottom 25% of men. That is starting with a group that is, overall, far more fit than the general population.
Next step is to "order" a man to say he identifies as a woman.
Next step is to "order" a man to say he identifies as a woman.
Not military related but along the same line. In 1971 when I went to GSP there was a female trying to get through the academy. She could nail the academics but couldn't get through anything physical. Me being the range phenom that I was they asked me to work with her a full weekend after she couldn't make the minimum. They gave me the entire range and a "box" (1000 rounds) of ammo.
After an hour I knew I was beaten and things weren't getting any better. When we broke for lunch I called the Director of the Academy and broke the bad news. He asked to speak with her and she seemed to change. Later in the afternoon he showed up and observed for an hour then sent both of us home. That was the last I ever saw or heard from her and life went on with no questions asked by anyone... There wasn't another female until around 78 or 79 that attempted the classes....
After an hour I knew I was beaten and things weren't getting any better. When we broke for lunch I called the Director of the Academy and broke the bad news. He asked to speak with her and she seemed to change. Later in the afternoon he showed up and observed for an hour then sent both of us home. That was the last I ever saw or heard from her and life went on with no questions asked by anyone... There wasn't another female until around 78 or 79 that attempted the classes....
Combat Diver
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My wife would fill for divorce if there were females in SF when I was in. During GW1 we were rucking with 100 lb rucksack in the evening during isolation. On infill our rucks now weighed an avg of 150 lbs. Our mission was strategic recon where you and others shared the same hole underground. No getting out unless you were compromised or mission over (7 days). Sand gets into everything. Piss into a condom and defecate into a zip lock bag with lime. Buddys are right next to you. No getting out of your hide site to answer nature.
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Back in the 80's, the 82nd had female riggers and females in division HQ. They hadn't forced their way into the brigades or infantry battalions. Not so any more. I couldn't even imagine having to deal with today's PC bs.
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Chuckman
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Part of my issue (with women in infantry/SOF) all along: just because you can (pass), doesn't mean you should. I have had to pull leaches off men's sacks, swab dicks, do humiliating things if it bothered meat-eaters enough to be humiliated. Hump 100, 125, 150 pounds how many miles in how many hours to get on objective, pissing in condoms.
We have seen it in the Marine Infantry Officers Course. How many women failed before the first passed? And that was just a school. Imagine that suck level times 10 for months and months.
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Word I'm hearing is that this is her second attempt in selection, NCOs gave her a "No Go" her but an officer passed her. Just like in Ranger School a General Officer showed up to give her and only her a "Go". Officers have sold out and not fit to lead.
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My old company commander retired as an O-6. Apparently he made some comment about a female being assigned to an 18 series billet. Somewhere in central or south america. It was a resume generating event for him, so I was told.
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And just what will happen to the team when she ends up pregnant and she can't deploy?
Just how many women have signed up only to end up suddenly pregnant when the shit gets real and it's time to deploy!
Just how many women have signed up only to end up suddenly pregnant when the shit gets real and it's time to deploy!
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Now, I wasn't in the army, and I have been out a long time, but when I was a corpsman with Recon some corpsmen (not me) were chopped to ODAs as the second Delta if the ODA was running light (in the same TF). It was always a big deal because we were always short corpsmen ourselves and could not afford to lose any. I always thought that the only people who could occupy a 18-series billet were qualified 18 whatevers; same as just about any NEC or MOS. We occasionally had non 8427s/8403s assigned to augment Recon, but there were things they definitely could not do, and it was almost always temporary duty.
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Probably back to what she was doing before. This does not make her a Ranger. Only Ranger qualified.
That's what I thought. I'm not a vet.
jmccracken1214
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Yup, when you're attached to one of the Ranger Battalions, then, you're a Ranger
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I'd hit it
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This.
When I was in LRS (all volunteer), females were not allowed due to obvious reasons. Apparently, political BS is now more important than the mission.
Combat Diver
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Female in question in this post is NOT a Ranger student. Ranger and Special Forces are two different identities/missions. She has failed and giving a "Pass" for SJW reasons. Course she has so far been passed is the Special Forces Assessment and Selection (SFAS). This is the first part to becoming a Green Beret. Now she will go thru the Military Occupation Skill course (either weapons, engineering/demolitions, communications or medical), language tng, Survival Escape Resistance Evasion (SERE) tng, Special Operations Tactics (SOT) and then to Robin Sage (Unconventional Warfare tng). Still a long pipeline for this 18X. The X Ray program means she enlisted off the street (like I did in 83') and has never been assigned to any unit before. X-Rays are usually 11B (Infantry) qualified after basic training and before jump school. I do not know her background.
If she finishes the course and is awarded the 18 MOS, Special Forces Tab and Green Beret (President Kennedy did award it to SF), she will be assigned to a Special Forces Operational Detachment Alpha. I forecast several divorces on the detachment and her broken (physically) within 5 yrs. The female body is not designed to be a pack mule carrying routinely 100-150 lbs loads. There's always the factor she becomes pregnant on her first deployment which is taboo to talk about. Young men and women will follow nature course.
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Sorry I dont know why I had ranger in my head. Civilian mistake. Thanks for correcting me.
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Combat Diver
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Mightyox,
Just wanted to clarify the two units. Females already been given "Passes" also in Ranger school. They had more time to prepare then male soldiers. Who every heard of a General officer grading Ranger students and then only the females? Sounds like more "SJW" BS and command interference again. Officer corps is killing the ranks.
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Just wanted to clarify the two units. Females already been given "Passes" also in Ranger school. They had more time to prepare then male soldiers. Who every heard of a General officer grading Ranger students and then only the females? Sounds like more "SJW" BS and command interference again. Officer corps is killing the ranks.
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