I think you should take a knee if you apply for free stamps. My opinion.
Free SBR stamps are starting to roll in
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Obeying unjust laws especially when the majority of the community is not obeying said law.
Personally no
More than likely not, you were happy about "saving" $200. Our mindsets are not quite the same on the subject.
Although I understand your standpoint on the subject I do not agree with it. I've lost friends over this "free" tax stamp madness. Friends who thought it was awesome to save $200 and be able to finally affix a vert grip on their 11.5 AR. Others spoke that you were "skating the law the whole time what exactly did you expect it was going to happen sooner or later." I've seen FFL / SOT on both sides of the fence its not just us normies that are mad.
In My Opinion, there is no principled difference between paying for a stamp and not paying for one. The knee is bent either way.
ETA: to be clear, I meant MY knee. I'm a reluctant, but compliant appeaser.
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Why? I did one only because I was going to SBR it anyway and the free stamp was just, well, free. Made no difference. I have $14,000 in tax stamps over 30 years. A free one suits me just fine.
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Are the majority of the community going to pay your legal bills? I mean seriously in 33+ years of doing gun stuff Ive known 8 people to date who have been caught blatantly disregarding NFA laws. 7 of them went to jail and one skipped the country prior to sentencing and runs a really good burger joint in Thailand now. Best man at my wedding . He just cant come home. Ive seen what happens when someone gets popped on NFA charges. Those friends of yours in the community disavow your existence when the ATF guy is at your door,. Own two eyes seen it. I dont like tha NFA any more than the next guy but Im not scared by it. fill out forms pay taxes they leave you alone. Not one of those guys I knew who went to jail , lost marriages, homes etc was happy with his decision.
You willingly gave up a right and you added one to the list of people who agreed that going the NFA route was not a hassle. Supporting the decision of the ATF to arbitrary change a ruling to regulate. Although you are just 1 of 250,000 that one is still one we do not need. As an FFL you are influencing others adding even more to that number. I do not know how old you are but you will be used as an example for more gun control in my lifetime as well as your childrens lifetime.
If you have $14,000 in tax stamps you obviously have the money to pay $200. Instead you willingly held other firearm owners heads down while you walked to "save" money. As an sot you could have just manufacturered the SBR to avoid adding to that number and still "saved" $160ish after SN engraving
It is currently not illegal to own a braced firearm. You complied before lawsuits were even settled.
Then why keep paying the ransom? Especially when they ask for ransom and it's not even required yet. Federal courts keep issuing stays on the brace ban for members of specific groups.
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What did I willingly give up a right to? The ATF ruled in error that braces were something other than stocks. They arent. We have laws in this country that the ATF broke by declaring without precedent that braces were something other than what they are which clearly stocks. They might be stocks disquised to look like something they pretend to be which is a handicapable something or other but theyre really just ugly stocks made for the sole purpose of circumventing the NFA. The ATF doesnt get to make laws without Congress.. The original sample that SIG submitted to the ATF what? 12 years ago , bares no semblance to what were being touted as arm braces in 2023. When the NFA law is changed I will happily put short barrels on every rifle I own tax free. Until then I'nm following the law whether you or anyone else thinks I should be. I have no problem following the law.
You also seem to misunderstand how LLC's and business owners coexist in terms of the NFA. I can build whatever I want for the business MG's SBR's silencers etc but they do not belong to me. I am an employee of the LLC. If I give up my license those items that belong to the LLC can be transferred to me on a form 4 except post sample machine guns etc. For stuff I want to keep I pay now or I pay later but I pay nonetheless.
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For me, it's because now the legal status of my ridiculous firearm is not in question, It's known. It cost me nothing and damaged me in no way to register one more SBR than I had already done.
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Not having to register a firearm that they decide one day hurts their feelings.
You are seriously disgusting.
A flappy thing that goes around your arm on the end of a long tube? I'm no gynecologist but the patent does not lie. It's the same thing
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None of those are SIGs original submission to the ATF. Not having ever seen anyone try to fire one that way maybe Im a bit confused. Ive only ever seen them used as stocks. Hey, why not drag out a video of a guy with a mangled arm and a bunch of tattoos using one like theyre "designed" to prove your point?
Some pencil pusher at the ATF tech branch who probably got huge payola for signing off on those things doesnt have the legal authority to do that. Thats something a federal judge gets to decide. Learn nothing for WV v EPA?
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That is the exact same design as what is in common use from sb tactical
