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These guys are editors of some of the largest gun magazines in publication.
How would you rate the fudd level of this video?
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10= Maximum fudd
 
Anybody who tries to make their point by telling the opposing party they are an idiot...

is an idiot.

I am not a fan of open carry, because I live where I live, but I certainly don’t judge those who do.
 
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Howland said:
To quote the stupid guy, "Infinity plus one."

And I only had to watch about six seconds to find out.
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Yeah you don't have to watch the whole vid, it's fairly obvious what they think. But they get pretty offensive to other gun owners on several occasions. My favorite insult is how they use a southern accent to portray stupidity.
chiefjason said:
How many of their arguments relate to how the left views it? Because if you base your choice on not offending the left, you have already lost.
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Most of them. One that they harp on frequently is that Moms demand gets really offended at open carry and the OC crowd provides the Moms with fodder to use against us.
I opine that having 3 editors of large gun industry magazines blatantly and without reserve attack members of their own coalition is a video that Moms demand would love to have. Talk about fodder. How many hundreds of thousands can they show that to? Hey I know, lets send it to all the congress people too. Open carry is stupid.

These guys are supposed to be our friends. They claim so every month in their magazines anyway.
 
I’ve tried open carry around high point. Went to the food lion on N Main St. As I was walking out in the parking lot some lady came up to me and said something, (I didn’t get the first part) … “At least you’re being honest about having the damned gun”.

At the Discount Tire on Penny, I was walking out with the service manager and he casually said, “hey, what’s that on your hip?” The conversation then turned to what he carries.

Another time, I didn’t want to leave an FN 5-7 in the car so I stuck it in my waistband half open / half concealed. One employee, who I would routinely talk to asked if I were a detective or something and pointed to the gun.
 
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These I'm better then you gun guys are part of the problem in my opinion. There has been alot more decades of open carry then there has been dedicated conceal carry. I might conceal sometimes if NC ever gets there balls back and passes constitutional carry. But I'm happy to open carry like I have my entire carry life. I find it funny that every time you hear anyone talkin shit about open carry they make it out that only dumb backwoods rednecks open carry now that may be true in my case 🤣 And that noone who open carries owns any nice firearms and only uses cheap "walmart" holsters which is not true in my case. But anyone who considers there selfs to be pro 2A and pro constitutional rights should all be on same side open, concealed it shouldn't matter enough to constantly be a arguing point. Another forum I stop in from time to time has this fight going on all the time thread after thread. All the open carry people say to each there own and the guys like in the op's video link are putting the oc guys down because there stupid and shouldn't be allowed to carry at all. There is pros and cons to any kind of carry but the biggest problem is one group putting down another group when we should be fighting the same fight together. Sorry about the long run on. It just seems more and more of these entitled idiots want to stand on there soap box but not willing to fall on the sword if need be. They'll be the first ones to lay down there arms and go into a life of serving there new masters when the time comes.
 
This also reminds me of one time when my car died on the road on my way home from work. I managed to safely pull it into a firestation before it died completely. Called a tow truck driver. He was openly carrying a pistol. Didn’t bother me in the least and even my semi fudd parents said they couldn’t blame him.

Edit to add: another time I was helping a couple clean out stuff from the wife’s parents house who had died. We took a break and they had their pistols sitting right on the coffee table in the living room. Didn’t bother me a bit, though I left mine in my car because I wasn’t sure how they felt about guns.
 
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One of the huge-est benefits of the freedom to open carry is you won't get the shakedown for printing, or an innocent holster flash in part or whole. This is a big deal. In states where you can't oc they hassle folks all the time for this kind of harmless stuff. This might be my favorite part of pro-open carry states.
 
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So if they wanted to ban open carry.......
How many would think the same that open carry is stupid and not cool or needed?

You are 2A or not! Cut and dry!

I did not watch the stupid video. Can't stand click bait.
 
I’m not a fan of open carry , but supportive of those who do.
I’ve carried for around 20 years and I have never had someone say something about a gun printing. I am sure some folks have figured it out and I’ve felt their eyes on me. However the other 95% of the time nobody is the wiser and I prefer it that way for a laundry list of reasons.
 
About the only place I carry openly is in my house, but one of the benefits of open carry that’s often overlooked is the possibility it may serve as a deterrence.

I believe it is safe to say there have been folks with ill-intent, who were given a moment of pause and decided it best to FA somewhere else, simply because they saw one or more persons in their vicinity openly carrying a firearm.

Here ya go…a real-world example…

Not trying to argue the right/wrong of it, but do cops sitting in a hidden area and clocking drivers deter folks from exceeding the speed limit? Nah, but let a couple of them sit out in the open and all you see is brake lights. Does it make every driver gear back? No, but a bunch of them do.

Same for open carry. Some determined folks wouldn’t be deterred if they saw folks carrying slung rifles, but it may cause others to think before doing and if only the sight of a firearm being carried out in the open is enough, without it ever having to be unholstered or a shot fired, well, that’s a win.

I’d love to walk around and see everyone carrying six-shooters in leather, low-slung rigs…I’d be right there with ‘em. Yeah, I reckon part of that is probably nostalgia, but if some dude walked into a pizza joint with the intent to rob the place and he saw 5 or 6 dudes sitting around wearing single-action rigs, bet they’d more than likely turn around and walk out.👍😊

And the dudes in the video?

Yeah…f them.
 
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Part of these talking hacks plan is to get people talking about their crappy YT channel which ultimately drives advertisers to their magazine, We saw it a few weeks ago with Ken Hackathorn saying controversial stuff about weapon lights. Now Ken and WC are not hacks, but what he says was a bit off base imho. These two guys above are just looking to stir the pot, in the same way that happene. Hey maybe uscca et al will take out a full pare back cover ad next month…
 
Those fuddiest of fudds are the same kind of motherfudders who will testify in front of the state legislature that constitutional carry is bad because everybody should have to take a training course (THEIR training course) before carrying a gun.

EDIT - I don't know what all they said because i didn't make it a full minute. and I won't.

noway2 said:
This also reminds me of one time when my car died on the road on my way home from work. I managed to safely pull it into a firestation before it died completely. Called a tow truck driver. He was openly carrying a pistol. Didn’t bother me in the least and even my semi fudd parents said they couldn’t blame him.

Edit to add: another time I was helping a couple clean out stuff from the wife’s parents house who had died. We took a break and they had their pistols sitting right on the coffee table in the living room. Didn’t bother me a bit, though I left mine in my car because I wasn’t sure how they felt about guns.
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I've had many of good conversations with strangers over guns they or I were carrying openly.
But I don't usually open carry. I've got some OWB setups that i don't care if get exposed or not though. and I have definitely "accidentally" yawned/stretched a time or two when I felt I was getting eyeballed a little too hard. Up north I had a young checkout girl at a grocery/liquor store say "psst, the gun under your coat is showing" when i was digging my wallet out. Super sweet girl, she was just looking out for me to not get busted because she didn't know that i was able to carry even though they sold liquor. (MI law exempted people with carry license from laws against stores licensed to sell alcohol). I thanked her kindly and told her there was a "loophole" that made it fine for people with carry licenses to do.

But on the other side of your stories - one time I had a plumber come to my house, and he was gonna have to be doing some crouching and crawling and what not... he got down to the basement, around the corner to where the problem bathroom was located, saw my safe, saw my workbench, saw my shelves of parts and said "oh good. I assume you won't mind if i just set my CCW on the table so it doesn't dig into me" and waited for me too say "go ahead" before he lifted his shirt, pulled out a paddle holster full of H&K, put it on the table, and got to work. We had some good conversations and i called him back out whenever there was a new pluming problem.
 
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I appreciate everyone saving me the time it would take to watch even a minute. I don't personally open carry. But I have zero issue with people who do, for a number of reasons. Namely, I dont know what their situations are, their limitations are, where they are going, or where they are coming from. On top of all of that, its none of my business at all.
 
Friday said:
Most of them. One that they harp on frequently is that Moms demand gets really offended at open carry and the OC crowd provides the Moms with fodder to use against us.
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The opposite view is that, who gives a rats anus what the Commie Moms think, you are not going to convert them anyway. Other folks see someone open carrying a few times and start getting used to it. When I first moved to Arizona (OK, this was 45 years ago), it kind of surprised me to see guys walking into the 7-11 with a six gun on their hip like it was no big deal. After a couple of months, though, it really was no big deal. Maybe eventually the general public starts to figure out that law abiding citizens with guns is a good thing. Now, I prefer concealed carry myself, just because I would rather be the gray man, the one nobody saw coming, but anyone who wants to carry openly has my complete support.
 
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But on the other side of your stories - one time I had a plumber come to my house, and he was gonna have to be doing some crouching and crawling and what not... he got down to the basement, around the corner to where the problem bathroom was located, saw my safe, saw my workbench, saw my shelves of parts and said "oh good. I assume you won't mind if i just set my CCW on the table so it doesn't dig into me" and waited for me too say "go ahead" before he lifted his shirt, pulled out a paddle holster full of H&K, put it on the table, and got to work. We had some good conversations and i called him back out whenever there was a new pluming problem.
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When building my parents house, we had a hot head drunk contractor that the subs would make jokes about not lighting up around least they blow up. One of the subs, Greg, that ultimately came to work for me instead kept insisting that the original general wouldn’t do anything retaliatory.

Then one day we were on sight and my gun got uncomfortable, so I drew it out and set it down on a hard surface. Greg saw it and then raised his shirt, showing his, and said that he would never be around the general GC unarmed because of how he was such a violent hot head. So much for not doing anything retaliatory. ;)

In any case, I ended up firing the GC and took over on the permit papers as the GC. Hilarity ensued when his wife tried to cancel the building permit later the same morning and instead unlawfully stole our permit papers and a bunch of stuff we paid for. Apparently she raised such a scene at the county permit office, they were happy to replace our permit papers for free, even though there was normally a charge.
 
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Once upon a time I worked at a gun range. We had shirts with the logo and such on there. Always carried the pistol in a leather holster at 3 o’clock.

At first I took the thing off to pump gas and go in stores and such. But eventually carrying the thing became old hat. So, I stopped caring what people thought. Nobody batted an eye. I went to Walmart, Burger King, Kanki, grocery stores, you name it.

I guess maybe they all assumed I was law enforcement. That was 20+ years ago and I guess things have changed.

Incidentally I did not have a concealed carry license at that time either.

The one thing I didn’t do was make a spectacle out of it. Just conducted business and went on my way.
 
noway2 said:
I’ve tried open carry around high point. Went to the food lion on N Main St. As I was walking out in the parking lot some lady came up to me and said something, (I didn’t get the first part) … “At least you’re being honest about having the damned gun”.
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Oddly enough, this was one of the tough things about getting CC in NC. WE had OC as the right. And court precedence basically saying only bad people would conceal a pistol. For a long time concealed was for criminals.
 
One thing I wonder about people.....

They don't want to buy from a gun shop, will not do a form 1 or form 4.....
They don't want the government knowing what they have.
Yet they are against OC under 2A and want to jump through all the hoops to get a CC and tell every government agency they have a gun and CC.

Back in the day I OC everyplace. Never had a problem.
Had several thinking I was military, LEO, or worked for some government agency.
 
You can find hundreds of videos on yt about the same thing from the vagina hat hater crowd, but I'll repeat, these guys are industry old timers and they reach millions through their publications.
Most of their vids are fairly innocuous. "Is 22 mag a good round for self defense?" type of stuff. But they really got into the cesspit with this one.

I don't have a problem with spirited debate, and we've had lots of that re; open carry. But as shown above, the vast majority of members here that say oc isn't for them, still support the right because they understand the community benefit. The guys in the vid never do that. They also ask for assistance from agreeable viewers to help shut down dissent in the comments section.
wth
This isn't a debate from them, it's an arrogant holier-than-thou lecture, and from guys you'd expect to be in your bullpen. I believe that's often referred to as a sucker-punch.
 
I don't wanna give the video another click
did they address the fact that in many states you need to be 21 to get a concealed carry license, but only 18 to open carry?
did they address that in some states people with concealed carry license can only openly carry in some places?
did they address how rough sand is when it gets in their vaginas?
did they address that laws on concealed carry in some restrictive in some places are so restrictive that open carry is about the only thing you can do?
did they address that a disorderly conduct is an automatic disqualifier for license in most places for 5-8+ years, and that spitting on a sidewalk or jaywalking could get you that charge if you contempt a cop hard enough?
 
DrScaryGuy said:
I don't wanna give the video another click
did they address the fact that in many states you need to be 21 to get a concealed carry license, but only 18 to open carry?
did they address that in some states people with concealed carry license can only openly carry in some places?
did they address how rough sand is when it gets in their vaginas?
did they address that laws on concealed carry in some restrictive in some places are so restrictive that open carry is about the only thing you can do?
did they address that a disorderly conduct is an automatic disqualifier for license in most places for 5-8+ years, and that spitting on a sidewalk or jaywalking could get you that charge if you contempt a cop hard enough?
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No, nothing like that. There were only a couple of exceptions for them, farmer out in the field, bear guide in Alaska, etc. There were no acceptable reasons as far as the myriad of laws or inherent rights go.
 
Roys hat and matching suspenders says it all...
 
Didn't need to watch it. I give it a 5. I'm a cc Fudd. I carry all of the time and go places I'm not supposed to on a daily basis. :) I look at open carry about the same as "some" women should be required to wear G-strings' and skimpy bras in public. I said "some", not all! The same goes for open carry. Someone OC with a decent holster/belt with a handgun that looks squared away I have no problem with. But the clown walking around with a .44 Magnum in a undersized Uncle Mikes holster hanging to his knees automatically triggers my "moron" response. It gives all of us a bad name. Show a little class when you OC because you represent all of us.
 
fieldgrade said:
I am not a fan of open carry, because I live where I live, but I certainly don’t judge those who do.
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I don't know, there was a guy in sweats with a push button worse than Serpa looking holster for a "compact" G19 sized gun clipped to the pocket the other day at Jersey Mike's, I had to judge that a little.
 
Anything that normalizes arms in society is a plus in my opinion. Commie arms haters will never stop lying about arms period so I'm happy to OC and have a conversation in public. Lawful and polite leaves a positive residue in your wake and our Country needs more of that for sure.
And the lil kids love it so that's a bonus.
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Many arguments con open carry are a bit like the canted front sights on WASR10s...
 
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Actually a numerous amount of them. Lots of them specific, like cop, cowboy, tactical.
Firearms News (not associated with the vid makers) revamped their layout and is kicking tail. My current favorite.
The video makers are associated with Guns magazine and American Handgunner. (fmg publications) These are not newbies. Guns has been in circulation since the 1950's and AH since the 1970's.
 
Open carry has been discussed here ad nauseum and I seriously doubt those guys have anything new to present to me.

I think open carry is great. It definitely has its place. I understand all the negatives (shoot me first, etc.) but I'm a big proponent of being an ambassador for our cause, and that's what you are when you open carry.

We would all like to win the hearts and minds of the general public but how can that happen when we sneak around hiding everything making sure the public only sees guns in the hands of the authorities.

Take a little risk occasionally damnit and dare to show the world that normal people own and even carry guns and it's nothing to be afraid of. But please only do so when you are well dressed and sober. :)

FYI it's been a year or two since I've OC'd. Way overdue!
 
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Flashpoint said:
Open carry has been discussed here ad nauseum and I seriously doubt those guys have anything new to present to me.

I think open carry is great. It definitely has its place. I understand all the negatives (shoot me first, etc.) but I'm a big proponent of being an ambassador for our cause, and that's what you are when you open carry.

We would all like to win the hearts and minds of the general public but how can that happen when we sneak around hiding everything making sure the public only sees guns in the hands of the authorities.

Take a little risk occasionally damnit and dare to show the world that normal people own and even carry guns and it's nothing to be afraid of. But please only do so when you are well dressed and sober. :)

FYI it's been a year or two since I've OC'd. Way overdue!
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