Gates Foundation: Why the hate?

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I got a few 😂🤣 and wows for my comment about the gates foundation but nobody actually responded to what I said.

So.....Serious question for those that think the Gates foundation is bad/evil.

What SPECIFICALLY do you dislike about the foundation and what it does?

I am primarily aware of their funding for global health which seems pretty good. Here are links to their annual report and the actual grants they funded.

I figured that this is what freedom and capitalism looks like...get rich and use your own money to give to issues you support instead of .gov taking your money and wasting it.

might not be exactly what I would fund (although from a glance I support a lot of their health funding), but heck it's their money so they can do what they want with it.
 
Having been to a few of the places (South America) where they have put some of the money there is a lot of corruption. I talked to some of the priests and they stated that money was not what was needed. The health care and instructors/teachers were great and what is needed and that they do get. But then actual money is paid to the wrong people. What or who those people are they would not tell me. But I do have a few ideas. It is a power thing. They did state that "it" produces a lot of laziness and people expect things for nothing. Sound familiar. There is more to it then what I have written and there is bad with the good.

My wife has relatives in Africa and they have said that the foundation has done some good and bad there also.
 
The foundation to the new America since the the mid 1970's is wealth envy.

So you got to see some of that.
 
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I see good (the money and resources put into third world health and education), and the not so good. I think just by virtue of being gazillionaires you have a decent chance of using that money and resources for not great intentions.
 
ECNC said:
Having been to a few of the places (South America) where they have put some of the money there is a lot of corruption. I talked to some of the priests and they stated that money was not what was needed. The health care and instructors/teachers were great and what is needed and that they do get. But then actual money is paid to the wrong people. What or who those people are they would not tell me. But I do have a few ideas. It is a power thing. They did state that "it" produces a lot of laziness and people expect things for nothing. Sound familiar. There is more to it then what I have written and there is bad with the good.

My wife has relatives in Africa and they have said that the foundation has done some good and bad there also.
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That's fair. I have no doubt that there are bad actors that abuse grant money and beaurocracy sucks the money from everything. not sure that would make me throw out the baby with the bathwater.

if the bar is set at "perfect" then, all non-profits are probably bad...
 
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Some of that money went to campaign for the severe gun control laws that Washington State passed a few years ago.
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interesting. Thanks for that info! I didn't know about this. I found that they personally gave 1 Million in 2014 to a gun control campaign.

While that is disappointing, IMHO it is a drop in the bucket compared to what the foundation supports (5 Billion per year). hating him forever because of this feels like cancel culture to me. I still admire the good they are trying to do even if i don't agree with everything they have ever done.

FWIW. A quick search of the grants found 79 with the word violence and none with the word gun or firearm. Almost all of the violence ones were against domestic violence.
 
@vp9c As far as domestic violence and woman's shelters they do a lot of good. In fact I would give them an A for that.
 
One of the larger reasons they get hate for the foundation as a whole is that the "governing board" of the foundation, the gates and Warren Buffet are the Trustees.

Also, they have an immense amount of influence in countries that are just developing. Not to mention that they are given freedoms of input into policy making when no one on the board is a publicly elected official.
 
Firstly, just because an Excel sheet lists a variety of programs having elegant or lofty sounding names and titles does not mean that the monies are used, primarily for those ends.
There are elements of dependency whenever one bestows "free" gift (are their programs really teaching independence in, say, Africa, or rather "here's who to bow to for your benefit?"
There are social engineering aspects of the Gates that I find objectionable.
You confuse means and ends: anyone can claim that they're "doing what they think is right," c.f. George Soros. How many absurd grants or grant-related malfeasance are actually involved?
No one that I've read objects to the Gates' spending their own money as they choose: I oppose, not infrequently, the ends to which those resources are used. That is, they are dangerous enemies, not just annoyances.

So I find the OP disingenuous by trying to define the issue in terms of modalities (doing what you will with your money) rather than ends (what those expenditures will effect). Yes, capitalism and freedom are great - when used for objectively good ends. Capitalism is also capable of creating the worst monsters. That doesn't mean that I am arguing that laisse faire capitalism is worse than another economic approach or evil in itself, but, it can be used to evil ends. Dr. McCoy said it well: "I find that evil often wins unless good is very, very careful."
 
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A quick summary of grants to US entities:

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Miscellaneous is mostly local Washington State and Pacific Northwest stuff.
Health, medical, and agricultural research sounds good, as should support for education and libraries.
I do wonder why the foundation needs to be so involved in other Policy & Advocacy that is not addressed in the other categories.
 
Good lort you have triggered a huge word salad with this one. so far only one person @MostWanted has managed a coherent factual negative response.

I am opposed to the anti gun funding mentioned above and also to their donations to baby killers Planned Parenthood.
 
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Good lort you have triggered a huge word salad with this one. so far only one person @MostWanted has managed a coherent factual negative response.

I am opposed to the anti gun funding mentioned above and also to their donations to baby killers Planned Parenthood.
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not really much anti-gun funding that is easy to find anyway...but there is definitely a fair amount of family planning (including planned parenthood) funding.

thank you for responding
 
I don't think of him. He is of no consequence to me at this time. I prefer to keep it that way.
 
There is lots of dirt/supposition about Bill Gates and the Gates Foundation. I am sure they do some good. But the God complex and need to control everything is what concerns me. Stories like this always make me think of some horrible sci-fi like ending for our species.

www.theepochtimes.com

Bill Gates-Funded Company Releases Genetically Modified Mosquitoes in US

Genetically modified mosquitoes have been released for the first time in the United States, as part of an experiment to combat insect-borne diseases such as Dengue fever, yellow fever and the Zika virus.
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