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Chuckman said:
This is happening in nursing: to attract and retain new nurses, pay is much higher, rising at a rate higher than the pay of nurses who have been working for years. How'd you feel if a new grad made .50/hour less than you, and you've been working 8 years? HR has been working on that,
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This has been an issue in LE for years. As the base pay increased, new officers would come in and be making within 1K a year if someone with 10 years of service. Most agencies lack a solid career progression program aimed to retain good employees. Many places just tell the experienced officers to suck it up that the cost of living has increased so the base pay had to increase and since they are making more than base pay there is nothing they can do.
 
barf said:
93 armed robberies with a knife in the last 28 days.

Click "Public Crime Map" and look at the summary on the right.

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Crime Stats

Asheville Police Dept. wants to help the public understand crime trends and current conditions of crime in their community.
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Sweet geezus - “Violent Crime may be skyrocketing but, nobody has a nicer, prettier website about it than this one, which we’ve used your tax dollars to impress you with!”
 
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Radar said:
Heck everywhere has hiring problems.
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Where did all the people go? I get that you could not work during the plague and get free monies, but that's all gone now... isn't it? All these people previously holding these jobs presumably want money now so what are they doing? Are they all delivery drivers for amazon?
 
barf said:
93 armed robberies with a knife in the last 28 days.

Click "Public Crime Map" and look at the summary on the right.

police-transparency-avl.hub.arcgis.com

Crime Stats

Asheville Police Dept. wants to help the public understand crime trends and current conditions of crime in their community.
police-transparency-avl.hub.arcgis.com
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Some interesting math on that page.

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Average Joe said:
This has been an issue in LE for years. As the base pay increased, new officers would come in and be making within 1K a year if someone with 10 years of service. Most agencies lack a solid career progression program aimed to retain good employees. Many places just tell the experienced officers to suck it up that the cost of living has increased so the base pay had to increase and since they are making more than base pay there is nothing they can do.
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Lack of career progression, a huge reason I left EMS for nursing. It remains a big problem with all of emergency services. Some PDs are actively advertising career ladders and career progression as part of recruitment. If I was 21 and thinking about it, yeah, it would be nice to know that after 'n' years on patrol I could move to something else with a promotion (or even lateral transfer).
 
Jayne said:
Where did all the people go? I get that you could not work during the plague and get free monies, but that's all gone now... isn't it? All these people previously holding these jobs presumably want money now so what are they doing? Are they all delivery drivers for amazon?
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Good question!!!
 
Radar said:
Heck everywhere has hiring problems. My wife ordered a dominos pizza online and the lady called and said it would be 2.5 hours until they could deliver it, because it was only her and a cook and a driver and that they were 3 spots short and couldn’t keep up. My wife said she felt bad canceling her order but wasn’t going to stay up until 10-11 o clock to wait for it. The manager apologized and told her they can’t get anyone to work even if they pay them a bonus the day they start
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cutting welfare about 50 percent would take care of this problem.
 
MHI45 said:
cutting welfare about 50 percent would take care of this problem.
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Quoted so folks can read it again. You and I both know it is true but wouldn’t happen…to many political consequences for both sides
 
Chuckman said:
Lack of career progression, a huge reason I left EMS for nursing. It remains a big problem with all of emergency services. Some PDs are actively advertising career ladders and career progression as part of recruitment. If I was 21 and thinking about it, yeah, it would be nice to know that after 'n' years on patrol I could move to something else with a promotion (or even lateral transfer).
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WSPD allows officers to apply for all their special units after 2 years, same time they can start doing "off-duty" jobs.
Average Joe said:
This has been an issue in LE for years. As the base pay increased, new officers would come in and be making within 1K a year if someone with 10 years of service. Most agencies lack a solid career progression program aimed to retain good employees. Many places just tell the experienced officers to suck it up that the cost of living has increased so the base pay had to increase and since they are making more than base pay there is nothing they can do.
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Compression seems to be way more common in government jobs in general. They raised the minimum wage at the city to $15 for new hires, took half a department threatening to walk out for them to realize the error of paying a trainee or laborer more than a semi skilled person or one with 10+ years, they bumped them an absolutely trivial amount over the new min. We get raises based off performance evaluations when we get pay adjustments they reset everyone to zero so the worthless make as much as the folks that do the work, great for morale. They never adjust even close to market so they've been pretty much constantly doing pay studies, and making adjustments every 3-4 years for at least the last decade.
Outside of the office job departments I don't think there's a department in the city with less than 20% vacancy. Thinking about it, maybe the PD cause I don't think 140 represents 20%, and possibly fire though they are reportedly shorter than ever and seeing far less applicants. Also the PD has been telling us their over a hundred officers short for a decade, it's not new for them.
 
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