Hammer fired, optics ready, Hi-cap options

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My handgun shooting has improved quite a bit lately, so I’m looking to completely change things up.

If I don’t want to pay the $$$$ for Stacatto, what are my options for full size, hammer fired, optics ready 9mm?

Sig P226
Springfield Prodigy
And…??
 
Girsan Regard makes an optic rdy at $700

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Girsan Regard MC Gen 3 Optic

EAA/Girsan upgrades the Regard MC Gen 3 pistol with next generation Red-Dot Optics The EAA Girsan/Regard MC series is quickly becoming a first choice for competition shooters or everyday carry option due to its multiple configurations and upgraded features. Numbers are proving that the demand...
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There's also the option of picking up a relatively cheap CZ P07/P09 and sending it to CGW or Primary Machine for direct milling.
 
I really like my Langdon Centurion Beretta. Have a Trijicon on it and it shoots pretty damn well. Not cheap, but you could go stock Beretta and just buy the Langdon Trigger in a bag and save some $. Pretty bullet proof set up.
 
Lucky63 said:
Stock 92’s are nothing to brag about. LTT, Wilson Combat, along with Beretta finally joining in, have some great upgrades and you can pretty much tune all the springs to any load. I have Wilson parts in 2 and a LTT trigger in a bag. As @CZfool68 said, not the cheap route but shoot great.
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Gotcha. Yeah I just know the few I’ve shot had heavy ass triggers. Not sure if Tim wants an out of the box gun or is willing to tinker with it.
 
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BTW: good to hear your hangunning is improved.

Why no strikers tho? You shoot dirty/wet/sweaty matches. Perfect gun for it, and you can save money for optic, holster, etc. Holds lots of bullets with extended magazine ak47 clip.
Takes a licking and keeps on ticking.

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Prodigy 4.25” is my primary match blaster now.

I just gotta start shooting matches again. Took the summer off.
 
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This thread and the AR trigger thread have me thinking... chasing a magic trigger is not all that important. Not to me at least.

Most of my ARs run a milspecish trigger save my 3 gun AR that gets a cheapo CMC.

My current competition pistol is a G34 with a stock trigger.

I appreciate a good trigger as much as the next fellow, I've been running an Infinity 2011 since the 90s. I just don't think an ultra crispy light trigger is a talisman that will fix fundamental flaws in trigger pull.

That said, I think the Shadow 2 would be the way to get where OP wants to go.
 
Frack N Cylons said:
That said, I think the Shadow 2 would be the way to get where OP wants to go.
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As my OP CLEARLY states...my pistol shooting (with a striker fired P320) has gotten way better lately...we can't have that. It's time to change things up and completely learn a new platform. Don't come in here with your logic and way-above-average-skill-set just to marsh my mellow.
 

SOLD - CZ shadow 2 Orange with SRO

CZ shadow 2 Orange Primary Machine optic cut Trijicon SRO 5moa Eemann Tech Ultimate trigger Armanov grips 4x MBX 24 round magazines Hammer Armament Holster Less than 50 rounds through it $2250 shipped
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Talk him down to 1800
 
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barf said:

SOLD - CZ shadow 2 Orange with SRO

CZ shadow 2 Orange Primary Machine optic cut Trijicon SRO 5moa Eemann Tech Ultimate trigger Armanov grips 4x MBX 24 round magazines Hammer Armament Holster Less than 50 rounds through it $2250 shipped
carolinafirearmsforum.com carolinafirearmsforum.com

Talk him down to 1800
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Ever since Covid and the rule about posting on other peoples' classified ads, they have been 99% ridiculously overpriced stuff getting bumped over and over again.
 
Fred said:
Ever since Covid and the rule about posting on other peoples' classified ads, they have been 99% ridiculously overpriced stuff getting bumped over and over again.
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It’s honestly not super outrageously priced. Those mags are 100 bucks a piece. The gun is 1299 msrp I believe. And the sro is 500-600. The hammer armament holsters are over 100. Not sure how much the trigger costs.


But it’s used so you gotta knock it down a little.

I’ve seen way worse prices.
 
barf said:
It’s honestly not super outrageously priced. Those mags are 100 bucks a piece. The gun is 1299 msrp I believe. And the sro is 500-600. The hammer armament holsters are over 100. Not sure how much the trigger costs.

But it’s used so you gotta knock it down a little.

I’ve seen way worse prices.
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The very frequent sale price of the non optics ready gun is around $920-950 when I was looking.
I wouldn't value it used at more than $800 used. 5 MOA SROs can be under $400 used, usually significantly less.
If CZ mags value like MBX 2011 mags, those will be about 70 used, so $280. IDK.
New grips $90, new trigger $90, holster- permanent modifications like optics cut and ergonomic parts only hold value if you can find the seller that wants exactly the same things...

I agree $1800 is a reasonable starting price, probably slightly more to exactly the right person, less to everyone else, but he listed it at 50% more than that. His asking price is almost certainly more than he bought the stuff for new. And since we can't ridicule the price in the thread, he can and will keep bumping it for months hoping to find an idiot to pay it, and our classifieds will be a waste of time and a terrible user experience because a few dozen other members who only post in the classifieds are doing exactly the same thing.
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I’ve seen way worse prices.
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Yes! The classifieds didn't use to be this much of a disaster. If I had a dollar for every bump of every weeks or months old post asking $700 on PSA/Anderson/M&P ARs, or used ancient polymer handguns listed for than new optics ready ones, I could buy quite a few CZ Shadow 2s.
 
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Fred said:
The very frequent sale price of the non optics ready gun is around $920-950 when I was looking.
I wouldn't value it used at more than $800 used. 5 MOA SROs can be under $400 used, usually significantly less.
If CZ mags value like MBX 2011 mags, those will be about 70 used, so $280. IDK.
New grips $90, new trigger $90, holster- permanent modifications like optics cut and ergonomic parts only hold value if you can find the seller that wants exactly the same things...

I agree $1800 is a reasonable starting price, probably slightly more to exactly the right person, less to everyone else, but he listed it at 50% more than that. His asking price is almost certainly more than he bought the stuff for new. And since we can't ridicule the price in the thread, he can and will keep bumping it for months hoping to find an idiot to pay it, and our classifieds will be a waste of time and a terrible user experience because a few dozen other members who only post in the classifieds are doing the exactly the same thing.

Yes! The classifieds didn't use to be this much of a disaster. If I had a dollar for every bump of every weeks or months old post asking $700 on PSA/Anderson/M&P ARs, or used ancient polymer handguns listed for than new optics ready ones, I could buy quite a few CZ Shadow 2s.
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You conveniently removed the part of my post you quoted regarding lowering msrp because it’s used.
 
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barf said:
You conveniently removed the part of my post you quoted regarding lowering msrp because it’s used.
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Should I have left it in? It is an obvious fact and I didn't feel a need to comment on it. I suggested actual sale price was under $950 and used price was even lower, around $800- I think I *agree* with you, not sure what you're getting at. I do see I left the "I've seen way worse prices" in twice. Will remove that.

[EDIT] just put your whole quote back in, although I still can't tell what you're suggesting.
 
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I am a "good trigger" snob. Every time I'd try a striker-fired trigger I'd hate it.
Guys would be like "well.... you should try my Glock with the {fill in the blank with brand they paid a bunch for} trigger. It is SO much better than stock".
Then I'd try it and have to be polite knowing it was worse than the worst out-of-the-box garbage 1911 trigger ever made. I'd say "OH that IS nice" and in my mind I'd finish with "for a Glock.... I guess".
I always figured guys who thought striker fired guns could have a good trigger had started out with Glocks and never really used guns with truly decent triggers.
My world was flipped upside down with the Walther PDP DPT trigger. I think it really IS as good as what those Glock guys think they have. Is it the same as a competition single-action Shadow 2? No. But it's astonishingly close.
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Man, I feel like that about plastic guns in general. It's like some people don't even realize really nice guns exist!
 
I'll tall ya: all these kids these days high on that dang pot, listening to that dang rock 'n roll music, shootin them plastic Grocks....
 
NKD said:
I'll tall ya: all these kids these days high on that dang pot, listening to that dang rock 'n roll music, shootin them plastic Grocks....
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It's a gateway drug,man. First you get high, then you buy a glock and then before you know it, you've bought another glock. Wait, that's not how it works is it?


On topic there is one of your blue gripped shadow things with an optic on it in the fancy case at FG&G. Used it appeared.
 
Jayne said:
It's a gateway drug,man. First you get high, then you buy a glock and then before you know it, you've bought another glock. Wait, that's not how it works is it?


On topic there is one of your blue gripped shadow things with an optic on it in the fancy case at FG&G. Used it appeared.
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Duuuude. You are supposed to get high and steal the Grock.
 
barf said:
Trigger is a bit on the heavy side for competition shooting, no?

Reason for no Prodigy is because obvious reasons.
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Not the Langdon ones. Don’t own one but I’ve shot the more basic model and it’s as smooth as any CZ I’ve ever shot.
 
Mack270 said:
Not the Langdon ones. Don’t own one but I’ve shot the more basic model and it’s as smooth as any CZ I’ve ever shot.
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I don’t care what anyone says. No trigger beats a 1911/2011 trigger. People who say X trigger is comparable, is lying.

You might like it better than a 1911/2011 personally, but it isn’t the same. Preferred? Sure. But not the same.
 
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