Have you ever had a negligent discharge?
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No but I've got a family member that's killed a closet door,two tvs, and a rear quarter panel on his suv.
luckily he's an nra certified firearms instructor.
True story
luckily he's an nra certified firearms instructor.
True story
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Did the same with a USP compact .40 in my first concealed carry class 20 years ago. hit in the 10 and the 9 ring though, so the instructor let it slide.
I had a first time shooter lady using my ppq or p99 and didn't know she was riding the reset... she fired 2 or 3 at once. fortunately I never load a magazine with more than that the first couple tries...
VERY nearly had an ND with an AR after a bad magazine was jamming things up. somehow a shadow blocked the chamber on the first 2-3 checks i did. angel on my shoulder told me to check one more time with light and by sticking my finger in there RIGHT before i did my dry fire function tests... I was in a small concrete basement at the time and i probably would have gone deaf.
Yes.
See "I messed up....bad" thread from last summer. Maybe it was "screwed up." Shook me up.
Edit: I got "the gun is always loaded" tattooed on my right inner forearm to remind me.
See "I messed up....bad" thread from last summer. Maybe it was "screwed up." Shook me up.
Edit: I got "the gun is always loaded" tattooed on my right inner forearm to remind me.
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Only have shot too soon while bringing the sights to target once. Definitely reaffirmed in me to not put my finger on the trigger until I’m actually ready to shoot. And how light my 1911 pull is compared to other pistols I shoot. Unless my barrel is actually aiming down range, finger never touches the trigger (dry firing after manually checking the chamber with eyes and finger aside).
Yessir, a friend of mine brought me his1911 after to look at after work when I lived in KY. We were shooting the shit as we walked into my garage and set his range bag on my wood working bench. Still talking, he opened the bag dropped the mag and handed me the pistol. Still talking, I cycled the slide 3 or 4 times, pointed the pistol at the lower part of my bench and pulled the trigger. I'm sure you all see why it happened, and I deserved it!!!! He figured, he's a Marine, he knows what he's doing. Not only embarrassing, lucky nobody got hurt. The round hit a diamond sharpening plate for planes and never even left the bag it was kept in.
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I have done exactly the same thing, with exactly the the same gun. Surprised the daylights out of me, but I had it pointed down at the ground so no damage.
Once so far. My first 380. Put it back together after cleaning and apparently didn't do something right. Chambered a round and it went bang when it went into battery. Scared the crap out of me. The worst part? I shot my 1/18 scale General Lee and blew the driver's door off of it. I kept the projectile as a reminder.
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I killed a TV with my Ruger SP101 after swapping Wolff springs. That’s the purely “you’re an idiot and should be locked up” example.
I picked up a shotgun off the table in a 3 gun match and broke a shot into the dirt at my feet. Turned to the RSO (@jjwestbrook ) and I just said, “guess I’ll go home now”. He concurred.
I picked up a shotgun off the table in a 3 gun match and broke a shot into the dirt at my feet. Turned to the RSO (@jjwestbrook ) and I just said, “guess I’ll go home now”. He concurred.
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I was sitting about 7-8' from the fellar that shot plum through his hand in a booth at the Charlotte Gun show a few years ago. That sure wakes a fellar up!
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Yep.. shot a hole in the floorboard of my tacoma, between the brake pedal and the gas pedal right where my heel sits.
happened in the parking garage with the windows up at cape fear hospital, this missed my foot by about 3 inches...
I thought about patching it, but decided to cut away the carpet, as a reminder..
needless to say my ears were ringing all day
I’ll post up a photo later today
happened in the parking garage with the windows up at cape fear hospital, this missed my foot by about 3 inches...
I thought about patching it, but decided to cut away the carpet, as a reminder..
needless to say my ears were ringing all day
I’ll post up a photo later today
Yes. Once.
I learned to shoot at a friend's ranch out in west texas. We were pretty young. My friend's dad would put us up on the roll bar of the ranch truck and hand us each a .22. he would drive around and let us shoot jack rabbits all day. I remember forgetting to put the safety back on and accidently firing a round up in the air when we road over a bumpy spot. I think I was probably 7 or 8 years old. It was a good life lession.
Shooting rabbits from a moving vehicle was also a good life lession... I miss it.
I learned to shoot at a friend's ranch out in west texas. We were pretty young. My friend's dad would put us up on the roll bar of the ranch truck and hand us each a .22. he would drive around and let us shoot jack rabbits all day. I remember forgetting to put the safety back on and accidently firing a round up in the air when we road over a bumpy spot. I think I was probably 7 or 8 years old. It was a good life lession.
Shooting rabbits from a moving vehicle was also a good life lession... I miss it.
Wow.
Guess I am just plain lucky.
Almost don’t want to post in here and get jinxed.
Nope not a single one.
Guess I am just plain lucky.
Almost don’t want to post in here and get jinxed.
Nope not a single one.
I was taking the Beginner Handgun class and we were all lined up in front of our targets. Instructor told us to 'shoot once and hold trigger at the wall'. I did. Then the instructor was helping out another shooter on where the wall was. During this time, my finger got a little tired and started to move and I didn't realize it had gone to reset. Thinking I still had to hold it to the wall, pulled the trigger again and BAM! Scared the class and myself sh*tless. Thank goodness I was still pointing at the target.
In my teens I was sitting on the ground in the edge of a dove field with a 12 gauge shotgun, probably a pump. No doves, I got bored, so I started a game of safety off, safety on, pull the trigger. It went like this - safety off, safety on, pull the trigger, safety off, safety on, pull the trigger, safety off, there's a bird, not a dove, pull the trigger. A 12 gauge makes an impressive hole in soft ground several inches beyond your foot.
Also in my teens, we had a 12 gauge pump that was worn enough to fire frequently, but not always, when the slide was racked after a shot. My Dad, Brother and I were somewhere throwing up soda cans to shoot at. After I shot and racked the slide the dang thing fired, without my finger in the trigger guard, and thank goodness I had been taught to keep the muzzle pointed safely.
My Dad was showing off a P38 to a fellow in his kitchen, the fellow racked the slide to chamber a round and it fired into the floor. When asked, "What did you do?" he said, "This" and racked the slide again and bam, an impressive one inch group in the kitchen floor. There is also a hole in my Dad's wall, visible in the siding from the outside, from that P38. It's been fixed now but it would fire a round put in the chamber in some configuration of safety and mags that we never figured out. Smithy replaced the internals and fixed it.
Also in my teens, we had a 12 gauge pump that was worn enough to fire frequently, but not always, when the slide was racked after a shot. My Dad, Brother and I were somewhere throwing up soda cans to shoot at. After I shot and racked the slide the dang thing fired, without my finger in the trigger guard, and thank goodness I had been taught to keep the muzzle pointed safely.
My Dad was showing off a P38 to a fellow in his kitchen, the fellow racked the slide to chamber a round and it fired into the floor. When asked, "What did you do?" he said, "This" and racked the slide again and bam, an impressive one inch group in the kitchen floor. There is also a hole in my Dad's wall, visible in the siding from the outside, from that P38. It's been fixed now but it would fire a round put in the chamber in some configuration of safety and mags that we never figured out. Smithy replaced the internals and fixed it.
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No.
AD's and ND's are preventable. Keep your booger hook off the trigger, check your chamber, then check it again. Guns aren't toys to be careless with.
AD's and ND's are preventable. Keep your booger hook off the trigger, check your chamber, then check it again. Guns aren't toys to be careless with.
If it hasn't already been said, there are two types of shooters: those who have had a negligent discharge and those who will. If they are lucky, no one is hurt and a very important lesson is learned.
That must have been the room I stayed in. But I wasn’t dry firing
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An AD is just that, an accident. It can’t be prevented. Now negligence with a negligent discharge, yes, that’s on you. The gun did it’s job.
But if I do everything right and something still goes wrong, that’s an accidental discharge, the fault is on a faulty tool, not the user. I think it’s beneficial to distinguish the 2
AD: gun’s fault
ND: your fault
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Embarrassingly been there, done that. Got cocky with a scoped rifle and failed to maintain trigger discipline. Result was a nice bloody kiss and subsequent bruising under my eye. Thank goodness for shooting glasses.
ETA - I fully realize this is in the "handguns" section but an ND is an ND.
ETA - I fully realize this is in the "handguns" section but an ND is an ND.
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Its always the Indian and not the bow.
I’m sure there may be an exception but those are far and few in between.
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I’m just making the distinction, they rarely happen but they happen, don’t shoot the messenger. There’s examples in this thread alone
Is everyone of the thousands of Sig P320’s that were AD’ing “the Indian and not the bow?”
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Killing someone is still killing someone but there’s a big difference between self-defense and murder. End result is the same, different contexts. I’m sure your agree context always matters
How is a faulty gun and a users’ negligence not a “useful distinction?” I’m honestly curious.
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RedneckFur
Smith & Wesson is a religion of peace.
By keeping up on your maintenance and not making reckless mods to firearms, the "guns fault" discharges can be virtually eliminated. "Guns fault" discharges are rare, and often lead to recalls.
If your gun malfunctions because you don't maintain it, or due to reckless modifications, its still your fault.
"There are two kinds of drivers. Those who have run over someone's child in a school zone, and those who will" ND's are preventable.
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Why are people acting like “rare” means “non-existent”?
How many thousand of Sig P320s had ADs or were in the position to have one FROM THE FACTORY? No modifications, no user error, no lack of maintenance.
We have a perfect, recent example of mass ADs but “nooooo it’s ur fault!!!1!1!1”.
Shit happens, sometimes guns aren’t perfect. It’s important to find the imperfect ones, not just blame it on user error if it’s a real problem.
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Had one bad ND.
Holstering a hot SA Tanfoglio limited gun into a race holster. Because I let a distraction in as I was loading the gun and prepping to holster it (noob friend yelled a detailed gun question at that moment) I failed to engage the thumb safety and proceeded to holster while kinda looking back over my left shoulder a bit, failing also to watch the gun go in the holster. Some part of the holster body caught the 1.5lb trigger and "bang" sent a round into the ground about 16" on front of my boots as I seated the gun.
.40S&W Major round.
Shook me up a bit. I position race holsters for tuned SA guns different for this reason, with the muzzle forward. I'm I am very glad I did! But I see so many with the gun vertical and pointing right at leg. Made me shudder. Although this is how I carry striker guns in regular OWB holsters. Was a good lesson at the end of the day.
Holstering is where a lot of the sadness can start!
Holstering a hot SA Tanfoglio limited gun into a race holster. Because I let a distraction in as I was loading the gun and prepping to holster it (noob friend yelled a detailed gun question at that moment) I failed to engage the thumb safety and proceeded to holster while kinda looking back over my left shoulder a bit, failing also to watch the gun go in the holster. Some part of the holster body caught the 1.5lb trigger and "bang" sent a round into the ground about 16" on front of my boots as I seated the gun.
.40S&W Major round.
Shook me up a bit. I position race holsters for tuned SA guns different for this reason, with the muzzle forward. I'm I am very glad I did! But I see so many with the gun vertical and pointing right at leg. Made me shudder. Although this is how I carry striker guns in regular OWB holsters. Was a good lesson at the end of the day.
Holstering is where a lot of the sadness can start!
1. Shot first round into target, and must not have continued holding the trigger back firmly during the recoil. Trigger reset and gun fired again about 6" above the initial shot. Not many people were around, and i think they thought i was just trying to shoot fast and didn't hit where i was aiming. This was when i was fairly new to pistols, but a good lesson learned there.
2. Assembled a 1911 wrong, and the hammer followed the slide back to battery and resulted in acting like a full-auto. a normal pull and release of the trigger would result in a double tap. Pulling and holding the trigger would continue to fire until you let go. Put that pistol away for the day and reassembled correctly when i got home. never tore it down again....
2. Assembled a 1911 wrong, and the hammer followed the slide back to battery and resulted in acting like a full-auto. a normal pull and release of the trigger would result in a double tap. Pulling and holding the trigger would continue to fire until you let go. Put that pistol away for the day and reassembled correctly when i got home. never tore it down again....
I’ve had two:
Once using a Marlin .22 lever action. Been squirrel hunting. I went to lower the hammer manually and it slipped and popped a round off into the air. The rifle had a scope on it, so there was an attachment screwed onto the hammer to make it easier to manipulate. But I still botched it. Scared me, but no one was hurt.
The second was with an AK. I had just gotten it, old WASR that I don’t think had ever been cleaned. So I had taken it apart, cleaned all sorts of nastiness from the inside. (I’m not an AK guy so I don’t know the names exactly). When I put it back together I botched putting in this shepherds hook looking spring thing that holds the trigger in. So when I took it to the range the first few rounds were fine, and then the next time I pulled the trigger it went full auto for a few rounds. Apparently the trigger had walked loose and whatever the internals are supposed to do, they weren’t doing it, so the sear wasn’t engaging.
I went home, saw my moronic mistake. And ordered this plate that fits inside and takes the place of the spring so I wouldn’t foul it up again.
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Once using a Marlin .22 lever action. Been squirrel hunting. I went to lower the hammer manually and it slipped and popped a round off into the air. The rifle had a scope on it, so there was an attachment screwed onto the hammer to make it easier to manipulate. But I still botched it. Scared me, but no one was hurt.
The second was with an AK. I had just gotten it, old WASR that I don’t think had ever been cleaned. So I had taken it apart, cleaned all sorts of nastiness from the inside. (I’m not an AK guy so I don’t know the names exactly). When I put it back together I botched putting in this shepherds hook looking spring thing that holds the trigger in. So when I took it to the range the first few rounds were fine, and then the next time I pulled the trigger it went full auto for a few rounds. Apparently the trigger had walked loose and whatever the internals are supposed to do, they weren’t doing it, so the sear wasn’t engaging.
I went home, saw my moronic mistake. And ordered this plate that fits inside and takes the place of the spring so I wouldn’t foul it up again.
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